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IF CLINTON DOES NOT WIN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY NOMINATION, 29% OF DEMOCRATS SAY SHE SHOULD RUN AN INDEPENDENT CAMPAIGN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.

(Via Hot Air)

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Excuse me while I go get a towel for the keyboard.

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Sorry: I still got nothing that can top that.


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I will simply say that I've had a few conversations with Hillary supporters who could stand to get hit upside the head with a two by four made out of common sense.

I know you guys have, shall we say, less than warm feelings and opinions for my support of Barack Obama. However, I can provide you with some perhaps useful insight on this topic, so I'll do so.

I don't know how many of these people there are, but they do exist. And they scare the hell out of me. Some of her supporters have bought into a cult of personality every bit as strong as that of my candidate. What shocks me is I never saw it coming. I think it has been underreported, frankly.

She's got some zealots. She's got some people who are so incredibly wrapped up in her candidacy that they might actually torpedo the party that shares their values (the particular individuals to whom I refer, not any larger group).

So enjoy it. I'll be doing my damnedest to bring these people back into the fold. I don't expect many here will wish me any luck!

who wouldn't benefit from the application of that two-by-four.

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Er, well, you're right, I'm afraid we won't be wishing you luck, but it is interesting to get more of an insider's take on this. I went over to TalkLeft last night, actually, because there was a nice active thread on the primary, and I found it kind of astonishing; I guess most of the liberal blogs I read are pro-Obama, so I'd never actually observed a group of Hillary-fans in their native habitat before. I was really kind of taken aback by the level of enthusiasm. I'm not sure why, since I knew people were voting for her. I guess it's because, while I actually like Hillary better than Obama, I can nevertheless understand how one could go nuts for Obama (if one disagreed with me about, like, everything), whereas I can't see how in the heck one could go nuts for Hill.

Tell me, are most of the Hillary fans you know in RL women? I mean, is it an I Am Woman solidarity thing? (I ask as a woman, btw.) Or what?

No, there are men. I don't think, upon reflection, that they're a majority by any means, but yep there are men.

My best friend is a strong supporter of Senator Clinton, but he's said he'll vote for Senator Obama without much of a problem. One of my classmates, however, wears Hillary hats, shirts, and jackets nearly every day he's not in court. I tried to have a friendly and reasonable conversation with him (I know him slightly, and in a friendly sort of way).

Wow. No go. I won't quote him, and I frankly don't want to think too much about it. He ain't a Republican, and he ain't voting for Senator McCain, but my god is this gentleman irate.

There has been some cost to this internecine fighting. How heavy a cost? I haven't the foggiest, but its there. Should Senator Clinton want a future in the Democratic party, she has a responsibility to bring these people back into the fold.

Yeah, I'm holding my breath on that one.

I'm trying to imagine the frame of mind in which one could be that devoted to Hillary Clinton, and I'm coming up blank.

My views on this subject are quite similar.

It seems an article of faith for some that her current incarnation is genuine, and that she will be not only more competitive than Obama among blue collar whites, but that she'll dominate that demographic in the general.

Madness.

the class he's taking. If it was me in there, I'd assume it was a ploy and see if he has any luck on the prowl.

"Umm,why do you like Hillary so much?"

"I don't want to get into that, OK?"

"But I just noticed all the Hillary stuff--"

"Not the kind of attention I was looking for, man."

but she would need someone from the more conservative side of the spectrum to join in the fray and siphon off votes from McCain. Bob Barr is not going to be her answer. Can you imagine the circus of a McCain/Obama/Hillary with a conservative to be named later in a 4 way battle royal? I know, I'm dreaming.

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At least we know what we would be getting and she would be well and truly beholden to us.


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The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

What!? It could happen...

Double indie appeal.

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From October of last year:

"But what about a Hillary Clinton/Ron Paul ticket? Could a centrist Democrat and a Libertarian Republican actually agree on enough to run together? I know this won't happen, but since we're using our imagination...let's give the thought a moment."

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With all the radicalization on the left, and moderation on the right, there is plenty of room for a third party.

Hillary would have to swing to the right quite a bit and run as the girl from Winnetka. She could say, "You know I've always wanted health care for everyone, and now the country wants that, too. But I'm not a moonbat or a troofer. And I voted to go into Iraq, but that job is finished, and we've won! We can bring our troops home and go on fighting terrorists elsewhere in the world."

She would have to do some focus group work on the economy, to position herself as being pro-SMALL business.

There are a lot of people (not me) who would vote for her. I think my wife, who's more conservative than I am, would vote for her if she didn't come with all the Demoonibrat baggage.

Veep? Rudy or Bloomberg.

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Not unless she wants to give up New York's electoral votes for the VP slot anyway.

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