Not a Pander-Bear

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I somehow totally missed this. The Associated Press asked the candidates "year book questions." Fred Thompson's answers, um, again reflected his "I don't do 'Play now, monkey'" approach to politics:

there’s the AP dog-and-pony show, wherein they ask the candidates stupid yearbook questions, instead of dealing with substance. Thompson’s responses, while certainly not pleasing to the AP (that is, they wouldn’t have been had the AP gotten the joke) were sure-fire crowd-pleasers to those of us who understood where Thompson was coming from:
What’s your favorite joke? Presidential debates.
What’s your favorite keepsake? Trophy wife.
What’s your favorite nickname? Mr. President.
And, of course, there’s my new favorite poke in the eye:
What do you like to do on a ‘lazy day’? Campaigning.

Dude don't pander.

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Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmn.

he is now at notch 1.

actually he is a few notches higher. I have him at 2 on my list, if he keeps it up, I may need an eraser.

Molon Labe!

the MSM is gonna hate him (even if he does do TV and movies) but the American people are gonna love him!

I love him, too. He's not the lesser of several evils. He's somebody Conservatives can sincerely get behind. I'm sending money to his campaign. Go, Fred!!!

G. Moore

Pretty cool, but that's not a primary source. What is this questionaire and what did other candidates write? Can we get the AP link?

one by one as they were published by the AP. They did not all come out at once.

The guy has the most natural sense of humor and impeccable sense of timing of any candidate.

President Thompson will be a joy as well as a deliverance.

www.fred08.com
Redneck Hippie

5 by OCRight

Redneck, You ain't no humor slouch yer sef.

Soldier's Mom - Golfer's Wife - Home alone a lot

Here's the lazy day question:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071214/ap_on_el_pr/2008_personal_side_lazy_...

Here's the keepsake question:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jjlPXCIEskuJPnLjdmppNryd2csQD8TGNOSG0

For some reason, they're not linking the other installments in this series with each new installment, so I can't find the others right this minute. But that should get you started.

Fred dosen't F%#k around. Of course he's already getting blowback from the MSM for calling his wife a posession. How dare he!

earlier, MSNBC took his debate joke at Mitt's expense (crowd loved it) and turned it into a headline, "Fred and Huckabee play class warfare card against Mitt."

www.fred08.com
Redneck Hippie

Seriously??

That should do Fred lots of good with the soccer moms.

ya... because all she does is get pedis and manis and lunch with her other stay at home spoiled rich women.

The lady is quite qualified in her own right and has a career of her own.

It's not Fred Thompson who is trying to label Jeri Thompson as a trophy wife... I'll give you a hint on who's doing it... people who hate Fred Thompson... guess I just gave it entirely away.

The press called her that first. Fred was just punking on the media when he gave that answer.

Fred-baby is doing just fine with those answers.

Stare decisis is fo' suckas -- Feddie

keep it up and don't stop.
I do worry that this approach can't win - not because it's wrong, but because people in power or who think they have power, want their egos stroked. Fred doesn't do that. Don't make enemies of people you will need later on down the road.
R.J.

he needs to make friends with the drive by press?

Molon Labe!

not the Drive-by MSM. I was meaning the right-leaning press and certain "in-power" Republicans.
The MSM isn't going to do a damn thing for Thompson or anyone of the Republican candidates.
I'm rather enjoying the Thompson campaign. It's refreshing and we need more of it. I'm just not sure it's the strategy that can win in the long run. It's not him, it's the system.
Thompson is doing his best to run against the system. If it works, more power to him and to the voters for getting it right.
R.J.

You said:

"The MSM isn't going to do a damn thing for Thompson or anyone of the Republican candidates."

Actually, the MSM is doing quite a bit for Huckabee right now.

Along with this, Fred had one of the two great moments of the week with his refusal to "raise his hand" or give a 5 second response to the global warming question. The other, in my opinion, was Obama's smackdown of Hillary when he mentioned he looked forward to having her advise him too. I wouldn't mind seeing a Fred vs Obama contest. At least we would have some candor and some genuine policy discussions. Of course, I'm still crossing my fingers for McCain, but Fred is not a bad alternative.

Give 'em hell Fred. Give 'em hell. :-)

For real, I've supported him from day one, but this man just refuses to play their game.

Tommy Oliver
www.race42008.com

solidified himself in strong second place in my candidate hierarchy. I won't be as upset now if McCain fails to win the primaries. Those answers from Fred were awesome.

Well-played!

still smiling yet

"I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
John Paul Jones (letter to M. Le Ray de Chaumont,16 Nov.1778)

the better I like him. He's the one they truly fear, and he has no fear of them whatsoever.

You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.

will be a nice consolation prize for him after Mitt picks up the nomination - of course, Huckster the clown won't give that prize up easily.

Personally, my vote goes to the person with the best experience, principles, policies and has a proven ability to get things done. From what I've been able to find out about Fred's record - from here, on his website, other searches; he hasn't really done anything worth moving him into my number 1 spot. If you have more info on Fred please share it with me. I am looking very hard at him and McCain as my number 2 and there is just so little there with Fred that I've been able to find - Watergate and Justice Roberts are really nothing compared to McCain's record (of course there are a lot of things McCain accomplished that I wish he wouldn't have).

If I weren't already sold I'd be considering it, heh.

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If playing crotchety doesn't win him the nomination, Fred can always look forward to staring in a (made for TV only) remake of A Christmas Carol.

"Scrooooge, I am the ghost of debates past... why did you skip the New Hampshire debate?"

"Humbug!"

Mike Huckabee could play Bob Cratchit. Tiny Tim could be played by an illegal immigrant whose parents got deported. "God bless us, everyone!"

Who knows what will happen once the votes are cast? Fred, however, is hitting it out of the park with stuff like this. From what I hear & read, voters are tired of the "same old game played the same old way." They are looking for authenticity & strength, & Thompson is definitely exuding these right now.

Here's what I don't get. All the candidates except Fred seem to have MAJOR negatives:

Rudy: Socons don't like him. Also, I think he's polarizing to many people. The fact that his kids aren't supporting him and I think many women won't like him b/c he left he cheated on his wife and left her for the other woman.

Mitt: Too much of a politician/car salesman. Also, like it or not, there is the Mormon issue. Also, I'm not impressed w/ that lack of results after spending $7 million in Iowa. Still, in spite of these negatives, he's still 2 or 3 on my list.

Huck: I do think the guy has a great personality and would relate well to people, he still has major negatives. First, the FisCons don't like him. Secondly, the baptist preacher thing is going to turn lots of people off.

McCain: I don't think he can win the party nom, nor do I want him to. After McCain/Feingold & McCain/Kennedy, he's burnt too many bridges w/ the base.

Thompson: The only real negative that people are coming up w/ is "he doesn't have fire in this belly". Are you kidding me? Man, he maybe isn't the "perfect" candidate, but he would please the SoCons and the FisCons, he comes across as real (maybe a little gruff, but what you see is what you get).

I'm just not getting why there isn't more suport for him.

Good summary, Tulip. As to Fred, his well grounded style doesn't play well to the media. He seems to view the Presidency the way Founding Fathers intended -- thoughtful, serious, and weighty. He won't play the media game like the others. You know, bombastic statements and "cult of personality" sort of thing. Maybe, having been in the business, he knows the cesspool that the media wants him to climb into.

Too bad. As a dem, I can see Fred as the president, and probably a good one. But he won't jump into kiddie pool and probably won't get the nomination because of that. Kind of ironic, the guy that really knows the game, won't go there. Says a lot of positive about his presidential timber.

Thompson said that pro-abortion lobbying was "private life". Which is an insult to every pro-lifer who has ever worked in a crisis pregnancy center, stood in front of an abortion clinic, or counseled a relative, friend, or coworker to save her baby. This is a big negative regardless of what NRTL says -- I've worked among the grass roots pro-life movement for 20 years. The HLA issue only raises our suspicions. In 1994, National Review described Thompson as "pro-choice". He was even rejected as a possible Bush VP as being too "pro-choice".

Thompson divorced the wife of his youth. While we expect this among Hollywood types, next to Huckabee and Romney it is a negative.

Fred Thompson's lymphoma will be a big negative come the general election. He looks like a sickly old man. He sounds like a sickly old man. And you better believe the voters will take notice of this when he stands next to Barrack Obama, John Edwards, or even Hillary "Botox" Clinton. (And you don't need to wait until the general to prove this... just look around places far less objective and substantive oriented then RS.)

Single term (plus) Senator with no executive experience... sound familiar? Big negative.

"The Great Communicator" Thompson is not. He was sold that way, but he can barely do a convincing job with rehearsals and a script. After eight years of ineloquence, we need a spokesperson that has a command of the English language and the confidence to communicate our winning ideas. The subtle quips that you politicos think are so cute will be gibberish for the millions of young people who will vote for the first time in the next election.

Fred Thompson is too easily characterized as Dick Cheneyish. If you believe this to be a compliment, I don't want to be on your sales team. Big negative.

Nixon on Thompson: "He's dumb as hell." Dismiss this if you will as being Nixon. But, that will be lost on the masses in the general. Sure as hell the left will use it. Big negative.

I totally need to get on the newsletter these huckabots get letting them know which candidate to attack today.

The assertion was that Fred has no negatives. These were negatives for me when I was a Fred supporter -- although Fred's refusal to fess up to the pro-abortion lobbying was when I dropped him from my list.

You clearly don't understand how law firms work or how lawyers do their job.

But whatever. I, quite frankly, don't believe a word you say. It's the new vogue for huckabots to say they were with X through thick and think, then boom, X did Y and you had to jettison X for Huckabee.

Then you'll ramble about how some of Huck's positions concern you, but you're willing to overlook it because of Z... And in one fell swoop, you disprove your position, you are able to attack another candidate's positions on Y and then imply X is weak on Z.

You can exchange any of those letters with names and position and character traits depending on which candidate you've been assigned to bash that day.

If there is another debate in Iowa and Duncan Hunter does well, will it be Duncan Hunter is a threat to the Huckassiah so we need to smear him too?

Hmmm, Fred will not raise his hand to a question... beneath him and the office, etc.

But, he WILL make some phone calls to lobby for abortionists. That's when I would have respected a gruff, "No."

As for your X, Y, Z nonsense... I will not compromise on abortion. I've always believed that a man who will not stand up for the innocent cannot be trusted not to raise taxes (e.g. GHWB).

And, I WAS for Fred before the "private life" remark. I could have almost bought into the weak "that's how a law firm works" defense if it had been accompanied by some kind of remorse or regret, mistake or accident. I hoped that Fred could stop Rudy. But, "private life" was an insult and why Huckabee became viable for me.

It's clear he just misspoke...he meant private practice and I think he clarified it. But hey, if you want to throw your support behind a illegal immigration supporter, weak on crime, full of hot air, ethically challenged politician, then I doubt that one comment was what turned you off to Fred. Its a real shame, because if the Life issue is your primary concern, then I think you would have been more than happy with the judge fred would have picked...plus he you would have the side benefit of actually having a conservative in the White House.

I've noticed this predilection from the 'bots as well. I tend to ignore such criticism as I do that from other hacks elsewhere. Every candidate has a few black spots. Fred is acknowledged by most people to have few. Their problem with Fred is that he isn't "pure" on the amendments that some support.

The fact that Fred won the National Right to Life Committee endorsement secures him my vote.

www.fred08.com
Redneck Hippie

Clearly NRTL does not speak for all pro-lifers. Clearly we are not all following lockstep behind Fred Thompson. At least not this "bot" and all his friends who have been in the pro-life trenches for twenty years plus.

I especially liked this:

Nixon on Thompson: "He's dumb as hell." Dismiss this if you will as being Nixon. But, that will be lost on the masses in the general. Sure as hell the left will use it. Big negative.

Yea... everybody just loves Nixon and thinks highly of his opinion. That's a big positive in my book. Anybody that Nixon didn't think too much of couldn't be too bad. I'd be worried if he spoke highly of him.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

I never said I agree with Nixon, but I don't think he is universally dismissed in everything, by all people.

It would make the ultimate attack ad for the MoveOn and DailyKos folks.

Thompson: Dumb as Hell 15 Second Ad

Fade in...

Thompson: Licking lips. "I, er... ah..." Cough. Licks lips again. Clearing throat.

Voice over: "Even one Republican President said that Fred Thompson is dumb as hell."

Fade in/out... "He's dumb as hell." - 37th President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon.

Voice over: "Paid for by Citizens for an Intelligent President"

should have a devastating effect on any candidate.

Most conservatives view the MSM as an enemy, and Fred is winning points with conservatives by refusing to play the media's monkey games. However, no-one has ever run against the MSM before because they punish you for it by not giving you air-time or by saying bad things about you or by showing unflattering pictures of you. Even Fox News is conspicuously counting Fred out when the poll numbers don't justify his disqualification just yet. A great majority of the voting public will never see evidence of Fred's wit, humor, and leadership because the media will not amplify his great moments like they would for another candidate. Instead, they'll keep playing up how old and tired he looks, how he doesn't have the mythical "fire in the belly, how he's married to a much younger woman, and how he's already out of the running. I'm rooting for him to overcome all that, though. Go, Fred!

They don't have any "we especially hate this guy... so we're gonna stick it to him" cards left to play since they already play that hand every cycle.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

Actually, the MSM in general is being very kind to Huckabee right now. And Fox News is being especially unkind to Fred. Fox News does have a "we especially hate this guy" card to play with the Republican field, because we have reason to trust them to play fair with the Republican field in contrast to the other MSM outlets. So FNC freezing one viable candidate out has a huge impact on Republican primary voters.

The "Round table", or whatever it is called completely dismissed any chance for Thompson. I must say, I was shocked to hear this, especially from Kristol who I thought was fully for Thompson (his daughter works for him) and almost always goes out of his way to say something positive about Fred.

Anyway, they were talking about how it was a five-way race, with basically equal chances but then they all went around and agreed that Fred was out of it.

not new. The pinheads on Fox have been doing this for many weeks now. The reality is, Fred is staging a comeback and is a threat to the anointed one (Rudy). Nothing they say would surprise me, especially since O'Reilly purposely did not include Fred in his online poll. The Fox blatant Rudy bias has turned off just about every Fred supporter for many, many weeks. Some people are even turning to CNN because at least they bash all conservatives equally.

www.fred08.com
Redneck Hippie

Yeah, I've noticed FNC's anti-Fred bias, too. I thought Fred was just being whiny a couple of weeks ago when he claimed that Fox News is trying to freeze him out. But when I saw O'Reilly's deliberate omission of Fred on that online poll, despite Fred still being ahead of McCain in most national polls, I realized Fred's right and got mad. I don't know what's going on at FNC, but it's not good. I'm losing trust in them day by day.

They all called it an open 5 way tie, though two of them said that Fred was not quite as equal as the others. They *did not* dismiss his chances.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Absolutely did and I will post the transcript in my blog on this topic when it is available.

They talked about the five-way tie and that led to the Fred is done discussion.

I thought that was very odd. However, I haven't see any reason to think they were anti-Fred but it could be the case. I have thought Fox seemed pro-Rudy but not necessarily anti anyone else.

The reason I thought the comments today were so interesting was that Bill Kristol, who always inserts Fred's name in the conversation, did not disagree.

It's just starting to be a pattern (leaving Fred out or discounting Fred's chances without justification). Like I said, I thought Fred was just being whiny when he claimed FNC doesn't like him. But I've seen enough cases now, on several different shows, of Fred being ignored when he shouldn't have been, that I have to give some credit to the theory.

FNC by zuiko

FNC really needs to get over the fact that he skipped that debate. They must have a bunch of children running that organization.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

I don't think it was the debate that pissed them off...I read somewhere that one of the staffers that left early in Fred's campaign either worked at FNC before or had close friends that still do...either way, the friends were not happy about the way things went down.

update on the latest Fox "tricks." The fact that Fox is going way, way overboard again just confirms the idea that Rudy has lost momentum and the Fox pinheads are more worried about Fred than before. They should be worried. Things aren't going too well for their guy, and Fred is gaining momentum.

www.fred08.com
Redneck Hippie

Hey Redneck Hippie - from one long standing FredHead to another -- feels kinda toasty in the bellies this morning -- doesn't it.

That warm feeling comes from being true to our principles and not being blown around by the BS promises and slickness of other candidates.

I can't wait to get home tonight and get on the phones for Fred.

All of this discussion is very interesting but let's try something novel. We should be trying to behave like adults. As an adult, my choice is Fred Thompson. I respect someone who is not playing games and telling the American people only what they want to hear.

FOR FRED, FOR THE FUTURE!

I agree. I love it when a candidate gives me an intelligent answer instead of a 15 second sound bite.

In doing so that candidate is telling me that he trusts me to be an adult, be serious, face reality instead of drifting off into the fantasy land of campaign promises.

I don't need stupid pledges (with outrageous loopholes) or candidates with slick answers but principles barely skin deep.

We face serious problems in this country, and I am looking for the candidate with the depth to deal with those problems.

I noticed O'Rielly dismissing him a couple weeks ago because he isn't "playing the game and pushing the button to get his jelly bean from the machine". It really psses me off when O'Rielly does that and I hope Fred makes him pay for that trick of keeping him off of his poll to 'invalidate' him.

What a pompus azz! (and I watch him a lot, but he can be a little much sometimes, like in this instance)

You can hate a guy like Rush all you want, but he would never pull something like that with a TRUE conservative like Thompson. (when I listen to Limbaugh politely take questions from listeners and respond politely and genuinely, unlike someone like Ingrahm who should NEVER take calls, it reminds me why his program works...he's a genuinely nice guy)

If Fred (the only REAL conservative, BTW) can get his message out the next few weeks by working the ground hard in Iowa, it may be enough to propel him with the same strategy in SC and a nice second place showing in FL to get some others out of the race and into the northern midwest with some momentum.

I think I read something last week that said a lot of people have him as their #2 candidate right now. So if he can stay in the game long enough, he may be able to strengthen himself through attrition.

Here's an AZ conservative, that just happens to be a republican right now, hoping FRED can last.

 
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