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1. There is no there there
or
2. What there is is HIGHLY overrated.

I vote #1.

You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

....harp on McCain's 100 yrs. line now that he has been called on the carpet on that lie too.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

"The most dangerous form in which oppression can overshadow a community is that of popular sway" -James Fenimore Cooper

Well, what is he lying about?

Nobody has to this point stated what 'the lie' is in this story. You've just called Obama a liar. So what's he lying about?

"The most dangerous form in which oppression can overshadow a community is that of popular sway" -James Fenimore Cooper

....or are you just an apologist/moral relativist/idiot?

you're kidding... right?

Fred Thompson, 2008

goldenboy seems uninterested in discussion, can you tell me what the lie is?

"The most dangerous form in which oppression can overshadow a community is that of popular sway" -James Fenimore Cooper

Wow, you must sign the checks around here?

Once there was a man named John McCain who said that many people were hurting in this economy, but that overall the last 7 years had seen many successes and record-setting gains in the economy.

Another man named Barak Obama told his friends that this McCain fellow thought that the economy was perfect, which was a lie because it led Obama's friends to think that McCain was out of touch and thought noone was suffering.

Mr. Obama had done this before, with a certain 100 years comment, so we know now that Barak is a very bad man and a liar.

OK. Go to bed now.

"The most dangerous form in which oppression can overshadow a community is that of popular sway" -James Fenimore Cooper

can I get milk and cookies with that.

;)

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

...but please don't intimate that any of us are being paid to do this. For one thing, we're not. For another: we're not, dammit.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Fred Thompson, 2008

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Please put a penny in the old man's hate.

over

The lie is that McCain said the economy has made "great progress." It was intended to make McCain look oafish and stupid. McCain, in fact, said it could -be argued- based on a couple of parameters that the economy has made great strides -- and he lists those parameters (those areas in which the economy -has- done well). But he bookended that with examples of how the economy has been hard on people, and how people have had economic difficulty.

Obama's lie is in the implication that McCain doesn't know what's going on with the economy.

Fred Thompson, 2008

Ah yes, 'it could be argued.' The perfect way to say something without taking responsibility for it. It's not like the interviewer asked McCain to play the devil's advocate, he asked him what he thought of the economy. McCain danced his usual political dance, acknowledging the reality of the economic situation while not divorcing himself from the Bush policies that are adversely affecting it, because that's the position that George Bush's unpopularity has put him in.

Obama isn't lying about anything, he's attacking his competitor, accurately. McCain's economic policies would be continuations of Bush's economic policies, and that would be bad, if the shape of the economy as Bush leaves office is any indication. That's not a fair point for a liberal Presidential candidate to make?

Also, if you don't want people going around saying that McCain knows nothing about the economy, you should probably tell McCain to stop doing it first.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

stop trolling.

Second, this is part of a pattern of Obama taking a part of a statement, removing the context, and using it as a pinata for the pinheads who cheer him on. He did this with the "100 years" remark and was rightfully castigated by virtually every newspaper in the country.

"A man does what he can and endures what he must."

and that's saying something. Did you not pay attention to the clip at all? McCain is CLEARLY not saying the economy is robust and excellent. He's saying there are positives, but he recognizes the negatives.

Obama is attacking his opponant, as usual, based on going outside the context of what was said and picking up a single sentence out of several. You can make anyone look like an idiot that way -- it's just that people with class, intelligence and integrity don't have to.

Are you deliberately obtuse, or do you honestly not know what's going on?

Fred Thompson, 2008

The problem is one more of perception then reality. There are some problems and concerns but they have been vastly blown out of proportion by the Democrats and the MSM. People are worried about the future and other people in the country even if they feel pretty good about their own situation at the current time. For eight straight years the Democrats and the MSM have been pounding on Bush and the Republicans so it is no wonder than large swaths of Americans are concerned. Unfortunately, sometimes perception trumps reality in politics.

All that said, Obama is lying because McCain was talking about people's concerns and worries for 90% of the time but Obama makes it sound like McCain is clueless. Obama is also lying about the state of the economy, but at least you could argue that sentiment is opinion.

when Obama stops saying he knows something about foreign policy...McCain does not have to be brilliant with economy because the President really does not have much say other than the veto pen...but in foreign policy where McCain makes Obama look the marxist loon he is the President must be well schooled because he is the Commander in Chief of the United States Military....so go school yourself on the intricacies of the Presidency before you post stupidity.

Obama is a lying liar of the highest order!!!

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

You know it, I know it, Obama knows it.

He said that one could make an argument that there's been great economic progress overall. And that's certainly true -- our economy will have grown by about 35% total between 2001 and 2009.

But his answer to the question -- the very answer where Obama lifted his quote -- was that many people are feeling the struggle right now and facts like the one I cited above are going to be of little comfort.

To boil down McCain's answer to that question to "there's been great economic progress" is sheer hackery. For Obama to think he can get away with it in this day and age is naivete at its worst.

lol at 'butchered the context,' what about Obama? What about the context of his argument? I see a 20 second clip of Obama followed by a 70 second clip of McCain's. We get the full question and answer from McCain, from Obama we get a hastily cut together sound bite. Isn't that 'butchering the context,' as you put it?

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

and it's been fun.

But it ain't been real fun.

I'm not in the mood to be both annoyed and ignored on a great Friday afternoon. If you think you can repent from being a pinhead jackass, use the contact button.

"A man does what he can and endures what he must."

I don't get it, I'm trolling? How so? By supporting Barack Obama? That's trolling on a political website? Is this a site explicitly for Republicans only? Is the comments system only for use by Republicans?

If I knew how I was being a 'pinhead jackass,' maybe I could repent for it, but you haven't even tried communicating with me. I mean did I break a rule? It's been all of an hour since I registered, I haven't sworn or been impolite, what else am I supposed to think other than that you're just afraid to talk to a liberal?

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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.

because this is a Republica, Conservative site.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

Barry's speech so don't try to act like you have not been engaged. That is why you have been accused of trolling. Look back through the comments and see where your questions have been answered and you have failed to respond to questions asked of you. And after all that go to the link in Jump To>> Posting Rules. You should be able to find more answers there.

Later Troll

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Did you read the posting rules?

http://www.redstate.com/story/2006/1/1/104656/0274

...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...

---Thomas Paine---

Lad, let me save you some trouble: this isn't Camelot, and you're not Galahad, come to joust with the forces of Evil. You're not even Don Quixote. You're some random guy who is laboring under the mistaken belief that coming here and annoying us is somehow more useful for your candidate than, say, joining a phone bank.

Yes, it's very, very, boring. That's why he needs you to do it.

Shoo.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

by myself and by several others. I do find it amusing that you haven't bothered to comment on the answers given.

Fred Thompson, 2008

After all, If you have nothing but the southern ends of a northern bound herd of horses supporting you it says more about you than them.

The definition: The omission of a word or a phrase in order to reframe a quote and alter its meaning. Obama somehow elided all the qualifications that McCain to that quote. Any other questions?

1. McCain, 2. Thompson, 3. Giuliani, 4. Romney

meant the above to be a response to this: http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/you_are_too_old_to_vote_d...
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"You can't save the Earth unless you're willing to make other people sacrifice" - Scott Adams (speaking through Dogbert)

Please explain your post.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

and the implication that we will not be powerfully owned this fall.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Sorry I didn't respond sooner.

My post was accidentally placed here, rather than in a thread on how a Soros-backed group has an ad in which teens mock McCain about his age.

The last line is a combination of texting and gaming lingo I picked up from my kids, and means we're going to kick some mighty D butt this fall.
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"You can't save the Earth unless you're willing to make other people sacrifice" - Scott Adams (speaking through Dogbert)

Willful.

They want to believe in the One.

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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

"Obama comes off awfully, but pleases his audience."

that's because his audience is full of people so longing for any kind of savior, that they'll willingly turn a blind eye to his every fault -- sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting 'LALALALALALA' at the top of their lungs, while flipping you the bird for pointing those faults out.

Fred Thompson, 2008