Obama's Unfortunate Collision With History

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Our Beloved Leader, Erick, makes a few observations about Barack Obama below. One in particular caught my eye:

And I suspect that he is really vapid and shallow. A smart man nor a smart man who is just inexperienced do not make the foreign policy pronouncements Barack Obama makes, nor some of the public policy statements he has made.

From Saturday's debate in New Hampshire

MR. GIBSON: Would you have seen this kind of greater security in Iraq if we had followed your recommendations to pull the troops out last year?

SEN. OBAMA: Let me respond. I think the bar of success has become so low (yadda yadda)

It has cost us upwards of $1 trillion.(Yadda yadda)

Now, I had no doubt -- and I said at the time, when I opposed the surge, (yadda yadda)

(yadda yadda)I welcome the genuine reductions of violence that have taken place, although I would point out that much of that violence has been reduced because there was an agreement with tribes in Anbar province -- Sunni tribes -- who started to see, after the Democrats were elected in 2006, you know what, the Americans may be leaving soon, and we are going to be left very vulnerable to the Shi'as. We should start negotiating now. That's how you change behavior.

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

Conveniently for us, inconveniently for Obama, we've looked at this timeline before for a different reason.

As early as March 2006, the inestimable Bill Roggio was reporting on the Anbar Awakening from open sources. Probably the earliest mentions of this was blogged by Bill Roggio in June 2005. Success in Anbar Province was evident and substantial before the 2006 elections were even held.

Is the man truly this stupid? Are what passes for his foreign policy advisers this stupid and he's simply a sock puppet? Does he think we're this stupid? Did he not know and simply make something up relying on the Donovan McNabb Effect to keep him from being criticized?

None of the answers are pleasant to contemplate. The best we can hope for is a mediocre intelligence who surrounds himself with dolts so he can be the smartest guy in the room.


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Did he not know and simply make something up relying on the Donovan McNabb Effect to keep him from being criticized?

The Donovan McNabb Effect?

Rush Limbaugh:

"It's the Donovan McNabb effect. Just more mediocre black athletes getting pimped by the liberal mainstream media. The Ghana Black Sambos, or Black Stars or whatever they're called don't deserve all this attention!"

I think that the Democratic victory in 2006 probably had little to do with what developed in Anbar. I think Obama had better reconsider making such claims again. However, do you really think he was counting, in this situation, on getting a pass on a questionable Iraq statement because he was black? Do you think that was what was going on?

Good Lord, that sort of argument not going to get you anywhere, and broadcast nationally by your party it'll make bigger negative headlines than any Obama statement. Redstate, criticize Obama all you want, but why bother trashing him like that, on race, when that's not the think you're attacking? What's the point?

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I'll note that I wasn't in the country when Limbaugh would've made that statement, and so I realized that I can't be 100% sure of its validity. It is, to cover my bases, perhaps like one of those joke quotes that gets spread around. I'm guessing not? If he never said such a thing I'm sorry I brought it up, since the meaning of "Donovan McNabb Effect" is pretty clear without it. And my statement that it's a pointless accusation also holds.

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that the quote be accurate, but it is perfectly fine to use a manufactured quote to make a point. Got it.

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve."

"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling

Is the quote I provided accurate?

I was just going out of my way to make sure that they know I hadn't literally heard Rush say it, since there's no Rush Limbaugh in Central Asia. I realized I'd made a possible mistake, and I tried to correct it. Next time I won't bother.

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But to be clear, my guess is Rush didn't say it (since there would've been a fuss made about it, and more google hits than the one), and that perhaps one of his fans said it and it got mistakenly attributed to him. So I'm sorry about that.

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Or even more likely, as I look into it, possibly a complete hoax. Regardless, though, I should have known for certain what its status was. I apologize for running with a quote without checking into it's validity, especially given how inflammatory it is, and if there's any way to delete or trollrate away a comment here on RS, please do so with mine.

Again, sorry.

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(1) there's no record of it on his website; Rush doesn't say racist things like that, and (3) there's no way in hell the drive-by's would EVER let something like that pass without brewing up some Imus-like scandal.
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a democrat(?!) who is A) either utterly clueless on current events or B) openly lies about an easliy verifiable issue to score political points with his BDS riddled base.
Hmmmmm, decisions, decisions. I'll go with all of the above!

Running to be leader of the Free World (roll this around in your brain for a moment "Most Powerful Man in the World"....).

I'm sure the Drive-By's will be onto him right away.

/sarc

If he truly believes this, he is fooling himself.

If he knows what he said is not true, it was very cunning. He knows that folks like us will realize the flaws in his statement, but he also knows that no matter how much we blog about it or it is talked about on talk radio, the people for whom the line was intended bought it. In this case, it was the dems watching the debate, in a general election campaign, it will be the dems and the large majority of independents.

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The foolish forget but do not forgive.
The wise forgive but do not forget.

File this statement next to;

- Meet with Venezuela, Iran and North Korea in his first year as president "without precondition" oops didn't mean that...

- "When I am president, we will wage the war that has to be won. The first step must be to get off the wrong battlefield in Iraq and take the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan." Even Clinton said it was irresponsible and naive.

- "The war should have never been authorized, and should have never been waged, and on which we've now spent $400 billion, and have seen over 3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted.'' I am speechless, really.

So on the most important issue of our time, critical to our continued safety and security he is completely wrong, wrong and, oh yea, wrong. Have his acolytes remembered the President is also CIC?

Honestly, B. Hussein's inexperience is so transparent he is not qualified to be a local dog catcher.

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...but I bet he'd be really good at the local SPCA shampooing the puppies...

A Guy that finished Magna Cum Laude at Harvard Law School and was President of the Law Review there is probably more intelligent than 99.9% of the readers of this site. The Iraq War has been a total disaster and this is one of the few places where people continue to defend this mess .... Good luck in 2008!

We neo-conservatives had a great year, and it was all due to the progressive movement's inability to... shoot, let's just stop that sentence after "inability."

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

It's like the poor SOB jumped directly from Election Night 2006 to today, thus completely missing the endless merry-go-round of retreat and betrayal that was the progressive lot in 2007. And he thinks that Senator Obama will save us all!

Really, I'm at a loss to explain it. Maybe some sort of fallout shelter scenario?

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

It will be Mitt.

BTW the only other POTUS that was an HLS Grad. was Hayes.
At least he was also a;
- Republican
- Thrice wounded General
- and vetoed numerous Democrat attempts to deny civil rights to blacks

B. Hussein Obama couldn't hold his coat.

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Is neither smart enough nor talented enough to keep the endless lie going, Obama and Hucklebee do have both.

Yeah the Republicans did okay in terms of stopping Pelosi/Reid in 2007 but they aren't running against those far weaker Dems in 2008 and frankly the GOP has never rebounded popularity wise. All the potential GOP Presidential Candidates are pretty lame (probably their best is Thompson, who has no chance at this point). I wouldn't put my money on any of the GOP candidates ....

And we didn't do OK. We did well in advancing our own policy goals; it would have been an acceptable scorecard if we had actually formally controlled Congress.

Free advice, kid: you're not going to scare us, and appeals to popularity typically don't work on us, either. You're better off toodling along to your favored candidate's precinct office and signing up for three-nights-a-week envelope stuffing. They almost certainly could use your help in that.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

It's always awesome when right wingers talk about not scaring people in politics. ha.

But before you go back to your hangout with the DailyKos Kids, and tell them how coll you were to go to Redstate and get banned for "free speech", I would suggest that you not waste your time with how "scary" we are. Surely you have better things to do with your life than to go on a site with people you don't agree with? BTW, I wouldn't insult Moe, you can go back to your regularly schedule chants now. I'm a nice guy so I'll even chan with you today. BUSH LIED! NO WAR FOR OIL. 9/11 WAS A CONSPIRACY! HALLIBURTON! See I got all the points you wanted to make on Redstate, and unlike you I won't get banned for it. Now shoo, you've dirtied our rug.
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Just hold your breath. I'll get back to you with further instructions....

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Oh, and one other thing? Master the Reply To This function; you've already had two chances to do so, and not getting it right the third and subsequent times will lead to you not getting a shot at a fourth try.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

All right man, relax a second. I am actually an independent who dislikes much of what I read on the leftwing blogosphere. I am not a rabid Bush hater by any stretch of the imagination. However, the approach of the GOP is completely broken and I don't think you are likely to beat Obama by calling the guy dumb. I think I'll avoid this site from now on, take it easy.

.. and kicked off your return by slinging poo, you wouldn't have gotten the hostile reaction that you got.

Catch more flies with honey than vinegar and all that.

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Apparently we are this stupid, based on the way people are falling over themselves to get out and vote for him.

 
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