That Pesky non-Announcement ANNOUNCEMENT
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As we posted, Thompson's campaign today confirmed that he is definitely running.
I sat in on the conference call, and I'm here to tell ya Fred intends to be the next President of the United States, and he means to tell the FEC exactly that on September 6, 2007. At that time, the testing the waters phase will end, and an aggressive campaign will commence...offical and legal-like.
Fred will tell US about his plans, and explain just what he has in mind for this country via Web cast on that day as well.
Following that, Fred will take two tours across parts of America, winding up in his home town in Tennessee on September 17th for a "welcome home" party.
Fred Thompson plans to campaign on his strengths of "mainstream Conservatism", and believes entering the race in such a strong position (uniformly 2nd in the major polls) will allow for a strong effort, starting right here with we grassroots folks that have helped him get this far.
Look for updates at Im With Fred.
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now I know what date to put on it.
RUN FRED RUN !!!!!!!!!!
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Gotta love the Fred campaign.
"Psst...I'm running for President...a week from now!"
announcement after the Fredguy gets home. Things will calm down, I'll announce and suck all the air out of the entire campaign season thingy.
Woof!
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Woof!!
Franz' 11th Commandment: If anybody messes with you, kill them and eat them invite them to a State Dinner at the White House.
But reading the neverending "This is the date" diaries here at RS has a sort of Lucy with the football sort of feel to it.
There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why ... I dream of things that never were and ask why not. - Robert Kennedy
While not necessarily a supporter I think he will improve the campaign.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
...and not from Fred or his official campaign. I think there is a LOT of momentum behind Fred that has been building up over the past 5 mos. Some of it has probably waned a little since there are many who are impatient (I confess to being a little antsy myself) but I believe Fred will take the party by storm.
The Dems and their propaganda wing known as the drive-by media are very afraid of Fred, hence all the attacks on such silly things like his young (and very attractive) wife, his vote on McCain Feingold (which he's already explained) and even his NAME (how low can you go?). Either they've got NOTHING of substance on Fred or they're holding it back for an October surprise.
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While I am sure some of the diaries and talk is from impatient supporters.
But the Thompson campaign has absolutely been flirting, dare I say teasing, his supporters with coy comments of upcoming announcements which seem to consistently be something OTHER than an announcement.
I think that Thompson is intriguing. He seems to be intelligent and capable of communicating. He MIGHT be the best choice on the GOP side(other than Huckabee who I still think is the dark horse).
But if he doesn't announce in September I personally don't think he is going to run. It simply isn't enough time. Not only will he have a very hard time raising enough cash. He will also have very little time to perform damage control on the "scandals" that will come out.
BTW,
hence all the attacks on such silly things ... and even his NAME (how low can you go?)
Yeah. What sort of person would attack a candidate based on his name?
There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why ... I dream of things that never were and ask why not. - Robert Kennedy
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
unintended consequence of campaign finance law. Which is why I would support scrapping the entire current regime in favor of requiring any donor who contributes more than x dollars a month/year to simply report the contributions.
Check out the American Research Groups August poll...Huckabee has jumped from 1% in Iowa to 17% among republican voters and from 1% in NH to 11% among republican voters surpassing Fred in both states.
That was before Mr. Huckabee decided he's smart enought to make every individual safety decision for every individual in America.
Huckabee is NOT of the opinion that gov't makes better decisions for avg. Americans. In fact, he stated just recently that people are free to make bad decisions...however, he believes subjecting people to second hand smoke is a public health issue.
We can honestly debate the science underlying that position but your characterization is very unfair.
Huckabee has serious momentum, we'll see if he can maintain it. I'm willing to bet he does.
How about traditional conservative issues such as property rights, individual liberty, limited government, do we just through those notions under the public health issue bus?
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
but nanny statism is cut from the same statism cloth as nazism.
You won't find many people as anti-smoking as I am, and I don't want the state making the kind of law he advocated. And I don't give much credibility to the science studies purporting to support it as a health issue.
Yes, progressivism was surely a huge influence on the Nazis, but the Nazis in particular were built on the teaching in Mein Kampf, not just left-wing nationalism in general.
Nazi should be used for very special socialists...
It was simply an observation. It's not like these diaries were by fly by night newbie posters.
There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why ... I dream of things that never were and ask why not. - Robert Kennedy
Getting my campaign contribution ready!
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Great news! Now we can see if a conservative federalists and a moderate can whup (southern for whip) a socialist and a newbie. Expect it to get nastier than usual. I would personally at least to be able to have grits on the menu at the White House breakfasts. Do you want higher taxes, government gridlock as usual, no 2nd amendment rights (like D.C., NY and Chicago), socialized medicine rewarmed, and for government to do even more? Like I said once, IF the federal government sold beer, it would be $90 a six-pack and 90 day delivery, in a FEMA trailer. There are fundamental differences in true conservatives, not just Republicans who pretend to be conservatives, and socialists. Government ought to do what it does best and leave the rest to the states to try and work out things without Big Brother. Run Fred,Run and best wishes to you!
After the NH debate? Oh, come on!
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RUN FRED RUN!!!! Lets win this friggin WAR Fred!
I find Fred really, really boring. I have yet to understand why people are excited by him, but I'm glad that they are in that excitement never hurts anyone. Fred clicks in at number 4 on my list among those running behind McCain, Mitt and then Rudy but I'd still be happy enough with him if he's the nominee.
though i will say if there is a republican that may possibly lose.... it would probably be Fred... just my 2 cents.
as many skeletons that will be dragged out of the closet on Fred (lobbyist, lack of experience, laziness), the thing he would have going for him would be his opponent who will have a laundery list of skeletons should she win the nom.
the thing that scares me is if obama wins the dem nom, as he will clearly beat Fred. their lack of experience will negate eachother, but obama will pull the moderate repubs....
could get scary.
but obama will pull the moderate repubs....
Now, Obama is well to the LEFT of Hildebeast™, and somehow you believe he will pull in more moderate Republicans than she would?
first off, i dont think that obama is left of Mrs. Bill... secondly, there are people tha tsimply wont vote for hillary, period, just because she is who she is (or maybe because she is married to who she is married to), wherein, there are some moderates (both dem and repub) that would vote for hillary's opponant (if she is running), but will then vote democratic ("for change"...please) if it is someone else.
what i am trying to articulate here is that some people dont want to vote republican simply because of the last 8 years... BUT some of those moderates will probably vote repub if she is running, but could vote obama if he is running.
make sense?
is his lack of experience and lack of a track record of any accomplishment
BUT, what little time he has been in government, in IL and the US Senate, he has demonstrated a liberal, dare I say, ultra-liberal bent that will hang on him like a K-Mart suit.
No.
Although having occasionally channeled liberal/leftist/socialist thinking, it does follow a formatting pattern I recognize, and which generally seems to confuse them into thinking I'm one of them.
I don't know, but I've got a feeling that all the air is going to be sucked out of Fred's announcement when Jim Gilmore and Tommy Thompson propose their unity ticket, re-enter the race, and storm the primaries!
Actually, back here on planet Earth, I think Fred has a chance, but has some major challenges to overcome. I was very much intrigued with the prospect of Fred entering the race a few months ago, but have become much less enthusiastic. It isn't necessarily the "wait" that has resulted in my changed feelings, but has more to do with the fact that I'm just not as impressed with his communication abilities as I thought I would be. He seems to drone on in a monotonous tone and says "uhh" way too much. I thought he would be a much more polished speaker, but instead I find my thoughts wandering as he speaks. Also, it wasn't just Reagan's communication strength that won him the nomination and the Presidency, but his optimism as well. As for Fred, I feel more depressed after hearing him speak. I'm not sure how well that's going to go over.
My (rather limited) personal observation is that Fred is able to connect much better with voters in their 40s-60s than with younger voters. As a college student, I know there are CR groups around the country with plenty of members supporting Thompson, but he hasn't really been able to reach younger voters overall as well as he has with older voters. Perhaps this has more to do with the fact that younger voters just aren't as well informed or engaged as older voters, and maybe it is more perception than reality, but it is just my personal opinion (obviously).
In any case, Rudy is still my favorite at this point; however, I'm keeping an open mind with Fred and look forward to his participation in the campaign as he can do nothing but strengthen the debate with new ideas.
Way to Moby! Yeah, I think that Tommy Thompson/Jim Gilmore Unity ticket will pull away nearly as many votes as that Boomberg/Hagel Unity ticket they are putting together.
Then, when you add in the RonPaul™/Kusinich Dis-Unity Ticket that is in the works, we could end up with a President who gets only 43% of the popular vote!
Ron Paul is a constitutionalist, Kucinich is a Kommie. Water and oil. Ron Paul, small government. Kunci, all government.
I actually think Fred will do well. But until then, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul!
and I know where I am coming from! And I have a pretty good idea where YOU are coing from!
What I don't know, is if YOU know where Langdon is coming from, and if YOU know where I am coming from. For that matter, I am not completely positive YOU know where YOU are coming from?
Having stated that, "Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey"
I hope that clears everything up!
Once Fred enters the race & Newt makes up his mind, we should be in for a wild ride until early Feb.
I disagree I think Fred does have a shot to beat any of the Democrats. I think the only one that really can't is Romney and the best bet is Huckabee.
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What makes you think a gun grabbing baby killer is going to hold moderate or Republican votes? DEMOCRATS can't even win elections being pro-gun control anymore, and haven't even TRIED to win nationally pushing a guy favoring taxpayer-funded abortions... sheesh.
Please check these Fred links out
http://nashville.about.com/od/governmentcity/a/RunFredRun_2.htm
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=t000457
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/watergate/fredthompson.h...
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
Rudy can't win the GOP nomination. However, I really believe he could win the DNC. It's not too late... he's very good at flippidy floppidy. He wouldn't even have to change his platform (just add "as a peace keeping mission" on the end of "we need to stay in Iraq.")
The states no longer need to play "primary leapfrog". Once Fred enters the race, we won't even need a primary. It will be decided within the next 7 days.
For those who may be new to Redstate or just haven't seen this yet, I present to you... Fred Facts.
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We have four very impressive candidates. Each is formidable. The man ultimately chosen as nominee will have vanquished a very tough field. He'll be ready to fight the election.
The strength of the field will strengthen the eventual nominee.
In the meantime, advocate, get involved, or just sit back and watch. But don't forget to enjoy a contest between several worthy rivals.
although I do believe he will win the nomination. And that I think will be one of his strongest points going into the election, and one that will draw moderate voters to him.
"Fred will tell US about his plans, and explain just what he has in mind for this country via Web cast on that day as well."
Assuming it actually happens, that should make it easier for the Fredheads to explain their enthusiasm for the candidate.
He has a great eight year track record in the Senate to look back to, including a strong voting record early in the War on Terror. It's not perfect (BCRA) but as far as I can tell it's head and shoulders above the other frontrunners.
He can deliver prepared speeches nicely, which is useful for making use of that bully pulpit to rally support for the war.
In a perfect world we could only worry about policy and be running somebody like JC Watts or Tom Coburn, but it's not a perfect world, so if there's a candidate with a track record I like and an ability to communicate I can appreciate, I'll support him easy.
How about posting a link to your favorite example of Fred's public speaking skill? From what I've seen, I'd have to rate him as somewhere between mediocre and poor in this regard. I do very much agree with you that being able to communicate, to advocate and persuade, is critical for a Conservative in the WH.
Given that he's an accomplished television and movie actor, he's proven he can get in front of a camera and work with a script. Search it yourself if you don't believe me.
As several have brought this up above, could you please post all of the national and state polls where Fred Thompson is shown to be beating Hillary Clinton for the Presidency.
I have seen 44 of 53 polls on the Real Clear Politics blog showing Giuliani beating Clinton- but every single one of them shows Thompson trailing by an average 4.3%.
And Romney trails by nearly a 8.7% average.
Also, if you could explain how after the GOP was destroyed in Ohio a year ago- that we will now win Ohio putting up a conservative southerner. Thanks.
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All those polls having Clinton over Thompson (by a whopping 4-5 points) are pre-announcement. Most of us around here are pretty familiar with Fred's positions on the issues, but the average voter has not been exposed to the Fred yet. Trust me, his numbers are going up.... way up.
Anyway, if Clinton is indeed the Dem choice come November 08, I could probably beat her. There is a whole lotta hate for that woman.
You put winning in Ohio as a pre-requisite. Winning in Ohio has little or nothing to do with Southerner/Northerner or Conservative/Moderate. In fact, the wildly unpopular governor of Ohio was a moderate Republican, so if we're to win in Ohio, we might stand a better chance with a Conservative who can distinguish himself from the philosophies of the embarrassments that were here in the recent past.
In Ohio, just like the rest of the country, I would argue, the basic issue isn't policy, it is trustworthiness. The Republicans here in Ohio got caught up in some pretty horrible scandals, and fraudulent activity. To win in Ohio, the national Republican needs to be honest and provide a clear image of living up to his promises. And, it wouldn't hurt to be skeptical of the "stay the course" mantra on the war.
That's my view from inside Ohio. All the insanity about nominating moderate to liberal Republicans in order to win Ohio is just ludicrous, and utterly ignores the realities on the ground.
The damage in Ohio is to the brand name, so to speak, without respect to the policies within.
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This is great news! I can't wait to hear what Fred has to say. I'm very excited about his candidacy.
Go Fred Go!