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I get the channel, but sadly they don't even show the english translation that the candidates are getting, and the candidates' direct answers are being directly spoken over by the spanish translation, so it's impossible to hear what they say.

But why should people who don't speak English care about who becomes President of the US?

Is fluency in English no longer required for naturalization?

_The "Third Worst Person in the World" and aiming higher._

No entiendo cuando hablan tan rapido. No texto.

And I'm fairly certain Fred just hit a question about the Hispanic community out of the park.

www.mikehuckabee.com

fred is ass kissing for the beaners

nm

Como se dice Huckleberry en espanol?

here
Guess which candidate was booed for stating that he wanted to talk with Hugo and Fidel?
Fred received a round of applause with this line on Fidel

Let's hope he "doesn't survive 10 U.S. presidents" Vows to maintain embargo should Raul take over.

Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

the debate and the first three questions are just basically repeats of each other "why has the republican party lost the hispanic vote" though they keep decreasing the percentage. They are not talking about any issues, only how the Republican party ignores hispanics.

The translation over the english is a pain (i speak both) I cant figure out which one to listen too!

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

was on whether english should be the official language, two stock answers from Paul and McCain

now finally they get to imigration....Guiliani talks about the border and Huckabee answers that those that are here should return to their country and begin the process because its not fair to those who do it legally shouldnt suffer

UGh now they are throwing out a statistic saying that 70% of the US population believes we should legalize those who are illegal. Where are they getting their statistics from

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

answer to this question. (which they have now inferred to be why are republicans against legalizing immigrants) ugh... he talks about respecting the rule of law and those who are here illegally need to go back and get in line

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

if he will revise his amnesty plan. He talks about securing the border and veers off to Iraq and hispanics there who came here legally...we can not permit that this nation is without compassion...for whatever that means..

now to romney who reported his gardners so they ask him if others should report illegals

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

these updates in here, or are they not really serving any purpose????

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

again says that the american public will be compassionate to these people once we secure our borders not before in response to their question about what to do with the three millino hispanic babies who have one or more parents in another country.

Romney comes back to a nation of laws and a nation of opportunities and protecting legal immigration.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

now they are asking how we confront this rising tide of anti-hispanic sentiment that is surging in the country due to the anti immigrant debate, and how it affects hispanic legal immigrants and citizens.

Hunter has a good answer to them again.

Guiliani ---- stock answer

Huckabee says that once we secure the border and everyone is here legally the problem will go away. Its important to get rid of this illegal problem so no one whose here legally will get questioned anymore.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

to be honest, i dont think that there has really been anything of value to most republican voters here, but in that vein, those on the stage have done a good job of responding to their questions which basically are the same theme...that being "why are hispanics being mistreated and why are republicans losing their votes"

That might be simplifying it a bit, but the truth of the matter is that they have focused on no other point solely on the hispanic vote, why are we penalizing the poor children (Where is Rev. Lovejoys wife to say....think of the children" and why is there so much hate towards hispanics.

Id like to see them, and hope they focus more on problems of the country and what our candidates will do about them.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

MOlsen6
Proud supporter of McCain '00 and McCain '08

and he who shall not be names is first...ugh

he gets booed loudly for saying that we should talk to them just like we talked to stalin and mao and kruzhev (sic)...

we have problems in central and south america because its our fault, were the big bad guy who interferes.

What a nutjob..sorry but i had to

Huckabee --- Chavez is not our friend...Venezuela is not Chavez, the people of Venezuela are not chavez and we need to remember that...hopefully someday there will be a free democratic society there for the people

Guiliani --- Agrees with Paul. we should talk to him. He gets booed loudly. Yes he is acting like a dictator...but there is hope that the people will see Chavez for who he is...talks about a freee market with latin america (gets cheered)

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

how do we make sure Castro doesnt last another 10 presidents

Thompson --- gets a laugh...keep with the embargo

Romney --- we need analyze who are the castros. they are totalitarian leaders...the cubans live terrified...we need to recognize that these people are cowards...we need to continue our embargo....

McCain --- panders to venezuelans for winning the referendum (does McCain begin every response with I have this, or ive done that) we should not lift the embargo....investigate something, i didnt get it.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

hispanics 66% believe we should be out of Iraq, why are we staying in since they think we should be out

Hunter --- another great answer. Talks about his sons third tour, talks about the surge and the voilence decreasing....talks about victory there and that Iraq will be our friend and not our enemy because we didnt leave.

Guiliani ---- we need to make sure they have a stable government and we have a chance to win, nothing is guaranteed but we need to fight and keep going.. I have a hard time understanding the translator his accent is hard

McCain --- again begins I was the only one on stage to.... I was the only one who did...our strategy was faulty and this one is better. Then he talks about hispanics who got green cards approved but died the week before in Iraq.

Huckabee --- because we are winning thats why we shoudlnt leave. the spirit of our soldiers is honor and to leave would destroy their moral for a generation. The security of the middle east and the rest of the world is at stake. We have to stay to keep terrorist from launching new cells there

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

Romney ---- doesnt give a timeline

Thompson --- iraq is aprt of the global war, and given that we have to be clear that if we leave we will create a more dangerous situation for us and our security.

Paul --- i wont bother repeating his tripe.

please remember im doing my best to paraphrase what the translators are saying, which is not exactly what the candidates are saying but fairly close

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

McCain ---- we have the best medical system in the world but the prices have gone up....talks about giving a 5000 tax credit to afford it....can invest it in a medical savings account talks about Reagan...says we need to take better cdare of ourselves

Guiliani --- there are only 17 M without coverage if it were 50 or 60 would be a larger problem...talks about the same credits and savings accounts....Im sorry I cant understand the translator...but he got a big applause at the end

Huckabee --- now Univions says its 47M who dont have it....he responds well that this is not a real number, its more price which we need to worry about....we should focus on preventing illness....universal coverage???? maybe we should have michael moore take his advice and go to Cuba, but the rest of us will stay here for our coverage.

Romney --- my program in Mass covered everyone...the best preventive medicine is to see a doctor...you cant be healthy without that...we can do it witouth raising taxes ore government money...He talk about his program in Mass and how he did it...

Now its 15M hispanics who dont have healthcdare

Thompson --- a market solution is the best way to go....its best for our society and our people if a free market solution is found.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

At least they are now tackling issues, though they are always prefacing it on how it affects hispanics..

Hunter has had the best and most direct answers tonight, and is not afraid to say things that are unpopular with this crowd.

Guiliani's translator is extremely hard for me to follow, unfortunately his accent is tough for me, so please forgive me if I miss something there, but he really hasnt been the focus of the debate. They have really asked Romney and McCain the most questions, followed by Thompson and Huckabee.

Hope this is helping people.

Again, if I misinterpret something please pardon me, but I think youre all getting the jistof what is going on.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

90% of hispanics think that our education system should be improved, our public education.

Thompson --- no one is going to say that that the federal government can solve the problem of education, we spend x amount federally but the states should have more control...and then something about solving some problem.

McCain --- Charter schools....we have teachers looking for other jobs which we need to change...I went to a fabulous school in a lower income neighborhood in OPhilly....the kids use uniforms....their parents participate and you know what, they are getting better because there are choices and competition....the parents need alternatives....I think if we have competition then they will get better.

Romney --- we have a great model .... we need to pay our teachers well....talks about his schools in mass and how the scores went up....involving the parents....

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

at a very high rate....how to change the high drop out rate

Huckabee --- education is the obstacles in our way, we need more science and math... they dont drop out because they are bored, its not because they are not smart. We need to have art programs to interest them. Music, We cant have bored students....thats why they drop out

Guiliani --- I am a result of catholic schools,, my parents decided to send me to that....we can create a revolution in education....Choice is the way to do that....the government shouldnt obligate someone to go to a bad school....give the power to the parents

Hunter --- In california he talks about a teacher who taught math in the "barrio" The teachers union is holding us back...we need people who can inspire kids to stay in school.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

the hispanics are the biggest minority soon well be 25% what part do hispanics will play in the future of the united states

Huckabeee---- everyone who comes to America needs to be americans. like italians and germans and such behind....there is opportunity and hope here...we can have big dreams here, our quality doesnt depend on our ancestors but each one can make his own future...we can create opportunity and live free (doesnt answer the question)

Hunter --- Urges people to register to vote first. Talks about a lady in el salvador....Invokes Reagan..We represent freedom and values....the democrats think that this is agreat place because of what the government does for the people, we believe its great because of the people.

Thompson --- to help us as strong as we can be the most important thing is that national security so we can protect all communities. Hispanics are quick to defend their country and the hispanics are very ethical...they believe marraige is between a man and a woman, and that family is the center of society...and they will help to make us stronger.

MCCain --- we will be a richer country because of their music and their compasion and their values. they will make this country richer....hispanics love this country and want to defend this nation so we can make a a great country.

Guiliani --- they are at a great level and have helped to make this country better. their work...they have a great diverse tradition....they make our country better by being here....

Romney .... we need all sorts of poeopple we are the hope of the world. we are competing now with other countries like China and India....talks about great values and we need them here bedause this is the land of the free and they love freedom

."Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

Transcript is posted by Hugh Hewitt:

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/991cc1aa-b60f-421b-b3da-51592fe3cec2

www.fred08.com
Redneck Hippie

First and foremost there is no way to determine a "winner" here tonight because there really wasnt anything of substance said. All of the questions were focused solely on the hispanic community (more on that later) and given that, there was no new ground to cover. Certainly it was unlike the last few debates where the candidates talked policy and went after each other. I do not think any candidate talked to, or about, any other candidate tonight. It was not a debate at all. In fact it was seven men on stage answering questions.

If anyone made an impact tonight it was Hunter for being direct and firm in his answers on immigration and not bowing to the pressure to say that we should be kind to illegals. Even though it wasnt popular he stayed on his message.

Thompson was strong tonight. He looked (and yes im talking asthetics) much better than other nights, he looked alive and fresh. I dont know if it was the lighting or what. He was the closest to the true "conservative message" not taking the bait to call for more social programs or government intervention to fix "problems" faced by hispanics, but saying market solutions should solve health care problems and relegating education to the states.

I dont think Guiliani or Huckabee hurt themselves nor helped themselves. Its tough for Huckabee to excel in this format because his charisma is drowned out by the translator.

McCain had some decent answers, but his tendency to start every response with I did this, or when I did that, or Im the only one on stage who has...really turned me off. Im sure it wont bother others, but I think he needs to talk more about what he would do in the future. We all know that he has experience, but what are you going to do for the future.

Lastly...to Univision. I think it would serve both you and the hispanic population better if you were to engage the candidates and create a debate where ideas were presented and we could see differences in the candidates. Having all the questions relating to the hispanic population does nothing to solve one of the biggest problems faced today by the hispanic community, that is integration. How can the rest of America view this segment of the population as their brother or sister if these stations keep playing on the sentiment of exclusion. It only perpetuates the us against them attitude. Instead of asking question that pertained only to the hispanic community how about questions for all of America. I think this would go a long way towards bringing the community in general into the mainstream of America, while at the same time maintaining their cultural heritage and uniqueness.

Hope that makes sense for all, and if i missed something in the debate, sorry some of the translators made it difficult for me (especially guiliani's)

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams

you can read his impressions here

Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.