Thompson way ahead in Georgia
By Erick Posted in 2008 | Fred Thompson | Georgia — Comments (25) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
Well, so much for the prognosticators who thought Fred had no where to go but down once he announced. The latest polling from Georgia shows him with a commanding lead over the rest of the field.
Fred Thompson 32%
Rudy Giuliani 17%
Newt Gingrich 9%
John McCain 8%
Mitt Romney 6%
Mike Huckabee 6%
Sam Brownback 2%
Tom Tancredo 2%
Ron Paul 2%
Duncan Hunter 1%
Undecided 15%
On the Democratic side, Hillary is ahead of Obama by just 9 points and Saxby Chambliss hovers around 57% over any opponent.
The only question remaining is when will pollsters stop throwing Newt's name in the list.
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Yes, you figured me out. I coordinated with Strategic Visions to get their poll out today just so I could make amends.
"On the Democratic side, Hillary is ahead of Obama by just 9 points"
Actually this is an exellent result for Hillary because a very large portion of the Dem primary voe is going to be African American.
If Obama can't defeat Hillary in states that have large black populations he is cooked.
It doesn't bother anyone else that we have an untested candidate surging to the lead? The guy ducked scrutiny for months. I like the guy...but he could be a complete dog of a candidate (see John Kerry)!!
Pretty much the only major candidate of ours who has been 'tested' by running for President in the past is John McCain, and he's doing so badly he's in worse financial shape than Ron Paul.
And your comparison doesn't even make any sense for the point you're trying to make. John Kerry wasn't a dog of a candidate because nobody knew what they were getting. The guy's been under scrutiny since his Winter Soldier days for crying out loud. Everyone knew what they were getting in him, and the Democrats flocked to him after Dean imploded because they though the was Presidential™ and Electable™.
So the only way your comment makes sense is if you're trying to say that Thompson, too, should be well known to anyone who cares to look, from his role in the Watergate hoopla to his time in the Senate to his post-Senate speeches and writings (of which most notably is the series of speeches he made prior to filing with the FEC to open his exploratory committee).
And I don't know exactly how he ducked scrutiny, since his critics (such as yourself) have been knocking him for months now. How long ago was it that we were hearing about how he was an 'abortion lobbyist?'
No, he's been under scrutiny. His record is open for all to see, to find out who he is and what he stands for.
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How much more untested is he than the guy who couldn't get re-elected a second time in Massachusetts?
This is an early poll, and each of the candidates will have plenty of time to explain themselves and to be adequately tested.
The John Kerry-Fred Thompson comparison holds no water, as his early popularity, based as it is on incomplete information, shows that he'll be no "dog of a candidate." To say that Fred Thompson has not faced scrutiny is nonsensical, as we've seen Thompson scrutinized, criticized, and attacked for months. We haven't seen him defend himself in campaign mode until very recently.
What can be gleaned from this? Probably the best thing is that if Thompson turns out to be a good candidate and politician, he will probably win the nomination. If he turns out to be a dud, he will not.
Watch every candidate over the next several months, as each will undergo his first set of tests. Thompson can handle himself on the trail.
We'll see who we get.
Dude, you need to get out more. The MSM has tried every tactic including making fun of the guy's name. Nothing of substance has been thrown at Thompson. His candidacy has been the nations worst-kept secret for months. Everyone has assumed he would run, so every leftist news source from the NYT to the LAT has been pounding him for several months.
Try another line of criticism. So far you're batting .000
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Being criticized by the media does not mean the guy has been tested on the campaign trial. The fact is he hasn't had to answer any questions or espouse any specifics on anything until he declared.
I'm not saying he's a Kerry type necessarily, but I want to see how he and his campaign are working after 3-4 months of the daily grind.
THAT will be tested.
Ain't Newt from Georgia too? Does this mean that Newt is done?
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Fred was so late, raised so little money ... quick, what were the rest of the reasons Fred can't win?
Newt's not going anywhere, just wants a little loving.
Well, as I see it there are three options:
1) It has become mathematically impossible for Newt to win the nomination even if he wins all of the remaining primaries.
2) Newt declares he is a candidate.
3) Newt declares his support for Fred.
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..is definitely not a fan of Fred Thompson.
Even Thompson's harshest critics expect him to do well in the South. That he has a six point lead in a southern state really doesn't mean alot. Also I don't know that Fred Thompson's critics expected him to fizzle this soon either. There is good evidence for your point such as the latest Rasmussen, this poll just attacks a straw man, I don't know that hardly anyone would be suprised that Thompson leads by a few percent in Southern state. The fact that Thompson leads Rudy by 9 points in the latest Rasmussen is news, IMO this isn't.
Apparently my eyes played a trick on me - I don't know how I got six points out of that, my math may not be good but it's not that bad. A seventeen point lead might mean a little bit more. Of course I still think we all expected the south to be Thomoson's territory.
I am from Georgia. Someone stating Fred Thompson is way ahead doesn't make it so. For those of us who can't tell the future, we can only refer to the candidates past votes and views. This is where you don't listen to what they say, but you get off your duff and investigate how they vote.
I did just that. Immigration issues are extremely important. There are two other candidates whose voting records shows a more pro-American view.
Between now and November 08, I fully intend to make sure Georgia sees the difference.
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Reality: Thompson/Romney Dream: Santorum/Watts.
Clearly you're just trying to butter us up the next time you cruelly sucker punch Fred the next time his campaign staff says something that is tactically unwise.
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