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Speaking at ceremonies to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the birth of the State of Israel, President Bush made the following statement regarding the fight against terrorism:

. . . "Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along.

"We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is--the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

This relatively banal statement--banal because it has been repeated in some form or another by Western leaders ever since it became indubitably clear that Neville Chamberlain did not quite have things right at Munich--has caused people to lose their ever-loving minds. Barack Obama is generally even-keeled, but . . . well . . . read the following overreaction:

"It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack," Obama said in the statement his aides distributed. "George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president's extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel."

Read on . . .

You know, it takes a lot to make the White House political office seem competent these days, but the Obama campaign did it:

The White House said Bush's comment wasn't a reference to Obama.

"It is not," press secretary Dana Perino told reporters in Israel. "I would think that all of you who cover these issues and have for a long time have known that there are many who have suggested these types of negotiations with people that the president, President Bush, thinks that we should not talk to. I understand when you're running for office you sometimes think the world revolves around you. That is not always true. And it is not true in this case."

Indeed, there is nothing whatsoever in the statement that even remotely refers to Obama, who should have just let the statement go. But evidently, it is more important to fire up the masses with furious protestations that Team Obama Must Not Be Offended. The masses respond dutifully. Joe Biden swears. Nancy Pelosi stammers. I expect that this evening, Keith Olbermann will burst a blood vessel.

I'm gobsmacked at the idea that an issue should have even been made of this speech. The only thing this furious nonsense has done is to make clear to the McCain people that Team Obama can be easily rattled and made to--dare I write it?--lose its bearings.

Oh, and if you are excessively touchy about a particular comment--even when the comment does not refer to you in any way--you make others think that there must be some reason for the comment to apply. For all of its protestations, Team Obama has likely only served to make itself more vulnerable.

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Given the democrats issue with McCain's so called temper, I guess this rules Biden out of being VP.

that is a deadly combination.

Unfair. Unbalanced. Unmedicated. -- IMAO

Methinks not.

Must have struck a nerve, though, with all the squaking their doing.

That's what I titled this post about President Bush's speech & the D's overreaction.

...was heard to say that he didn't care for the chicken.

Senator Obama immediately released a statement denouncing President Bush for employing "name calling" and "politics of fear" to launch a personal attack on Senator Obama.

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"We want great men who, when fortune frowns, will not be discouraged." - Colonel Henry Knox

haha by Mord

it took me a second to get it.

Pride is a Fool's Fortress.

Wonder how many will rally behind the guy who never got 10% of any primary vote? Still waiting to hear from the guy who couldn't even beat Jimmy Carter in 1980.

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and that Bush was not talking about Obama? Come on, folks, look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Edgar_Borah

I mean, really, people.

Some other facts to know about Borah:

When conservative President Calvin Coolidge was told of Borah's fondness for horseback riding, the president is said to have replied, "It's hard to imagine Senator Borah going in the same direction as his horse."

A fear expressed by a number of opponents was that the proposed law [income tax. CN], with its low rates was the camel's nose under the tent that once a tax on incomes was enacted, rates would tend to rise. Sen. William E. Borah of Idaho was outraged by such anxieties, and derided a suggestion that the rate might eventually climb as high as 20 percent. Who, he asked, could impose such socialistic, confiscatory rates?

Oh, wait. Maybe it's more about Obama, after all.

...Obama didn't travel seventy years into the past and seek an audience with Herr Hitler. No offense to the junior senator from Illinois, but the fact that he wasn't rounded up in a pogrom and sent to Dachau proves that he probably didn't have an audience with Adolf.

...so how is it now, all of a sudden, about him?

(Yes, I'm resisting the urge to hum the song "You're So Vain"...)

"No matter how much lipstick you put on the taxation pig, it's still a pig... and it's currently snout-down in your wallet." - Michael Fisk

Maybe it has something to do with this:

Perino’s comments contradict what Bush administration aides are admitting privately. As CNN’s Ed Henry reported earlier today:

White House aides are acknowledging that this was a reference to the fact that Sen. Obama and other Democrats have publicly said that it would be ok for the U.S. President to meet with leaders like the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad.

Yes, Perino lies...a lot. Just like Tony Snowjob.

A little more substance to your assertions would be good.

lesterblog.blogspot.com

This approach is so very much simpler than discussing issues of substance.

My bumper sticker would be: "Hate Bush. It's sooooo much easier than thinking."

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We would also like to know your advice for somebody like my daughter, who's going to graduate in two years, advice that you would give a young person.

SEC. RUMSFELD: Advice for a young person. Study history.

Saying that the President cannot make a statement that might include Obama along with many other individuals is taking a page from the totalitarian handbook to suppress speech. So your argument is that the President has no right to make a statement in support of a position that might be construed as diagreeing with or being critical of Obama. The logical extension of this position is truly breathtaking - nothing remotely construed as criticism of Obama is allowed. Great Leader anyone...

And Rightly So!

"WH Aides" any names or just speculation? and if they lie they do it quite well and make a$$es out of people like you and CNN and well any liberal.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

according to CNN:

The president did not name Sen. Barack Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged to CNN that the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party.

who are these "White House aides"....names? any names? anyone? or is it...yes I am going to say it again...SUPER DOOPER SECRET?

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

It was always considered unpatriotic to attack fellow Americans on foreign soil. But when bush does it, you cheer.

interesting.

The modern liberal is defined as one whose sense of guilt has exceeded his capacity for restitution - making it not only forgivable, but morally superior to raid someone else's larder to pay his bottomless debt.

Stop it. Nobody's buying. Your guy has a huge vulnerability here. Quit whining like a baby about principles. Your people don't give a rat's a$$ about principles anyway, just winning.

Politics is a contact sport. Your guy shouldn't have said a word. Instead, he reacts as if it's Amateur Night at the Apollo. Not good. Rookies do that.

The Obamessiah just got pwned by a seasoned pro.

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"-Winston Churchill

Bush did not say "Some Americans" he said Some ...

but now that you mention it -- if he had said Americans we might be able to exclude Barry after all. I guess it all depends upon your definition of American.

M Penny

And btw, reporters with Bush on the ground in Israel got "background" information that said yes, Bush meant Obama. Of course if you only watch Faux news, you didn't see that.

Reporters on the ground got "background" who are these "reporters" and who gave this "background" or is it a super dooper secret? You know if you only watch MSNBC-commrade you forget to ask the questions.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

You just have to accept that your guy simply isn't very good at this, yet.

Ten years or so in a state executive branch capacity should clear that right up, though. I hear that Illinois may be having a gubernatorial vacancy or seven suddenly become available soon...

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

you're mumbling crazy. Should I even expect anything more?

expectation of you....not sure what that might be since the little kitty makes absolutely no sense at all....but I am sure that you have something to say about that...have at it sir!

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

Remember Fitzmas? There's another one coming.

Oh, yeah. This just happens to be the same Tony Rezco that help Obama buy a house. Maybe he won't be available to fill the vacancy after all....

Socialism doesn't work. It looks nice on paper, but it's been tried and it's failed miserably every time (usually accompanied by widespread death and suffering).
Proud member of the V.R.W.C.

I love Patsy Cline, let's here Sweet Dreams now Moe!

btw, only the hard core left cares whether he was talking about Obama or not. You want to run on chatting with murderers, then roll the dice pal.

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Molon Labe!

A shame that Pelosi, Reid, Durbin, Schumer et al. have no problem with attacking American troops on foreign soil. No class whatsoever.

Feel free to site a source.

feel free to CITE the source.

between "cite" and "site". Or do they not have them at your grade school?


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Hey Barack-

MADE YA LOOK!

Sucker.

The modern liberal is defined as one whose sense of guilt has exceeded his capacity for restitution - making it not only forgivable, but morally superior to raid someone else's larder to pay his bottomless debt.

What about granpa Prescott bush banking with the Nazis? Is that appeasement? or is it OK as long as ya make some money?

I'm pretty sure that he's got enough to bitterly masturbate to anyway.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

I'm guessing flute.

Barack thinks he broke one of the rules of engagement.
Whiner!
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Just a typical, small town, white girl...

"No matter how much lipstick you put on the taxation pig, it's still a pig... and it's currently snout-down in your wallet." - Michael Fisk

Barack has run a great machine campaign. I can't understand why he would have walked right into a trap like this. It's weird. It's as if Bush totally owns him.

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"-Winston Churchill

At least not officially. Rove must have left him the keys to the VRWC mind-control device.

in the Rezko/Blagojevich mess. Maybe Larry Johnson is holding back on that until the general election.

I think we can all agree that President Bush was taking the opportunity to obliquely criticize Sen. Obama's naive, wrong-headed statement that he would talk to our enemies without preconditions. However, President Bush didn't use Obama's name, refer to him in any way, and the analogy used was clearly drawn from the past. So as has been pointed out here, Obama should have let it go. Instead he's screwed up by drawing attention to the whole thing and to his indefensible position.

Frankly, if the shoe fits....

...is now we know the answer to the question Does Barack Obama learn from his mistakes? Apparently not.

Useful data for the general election, presuming of course that Obama gets that far.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool, tha

Dam$ by wt259

One should not let one's hand get lazy and rest on the enter key. "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt" Supposedly by Mark Twain, though there is some doubt as to the attribution. Obama certainly is helping to remove the doubt

Proverbs 17:28 "Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue."

"Government of the people, by the people, for the people."
A. Lincoln

No spell check in the subject line!!!

"Government of the people, by the people, for the people."
A. Lincoln

As I have reported elsewhere according to CNN:

The president did not name Sen. Barack Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged to CNN that the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party.

Indefensible position? It's the position of his own people! By his "reasoning" he'd have to fire Gates and Rice because they both support talks.

What about his talks with N. Korea? He'd have to fire himself.

Hypocrisy rules here.

and I don't mean just threads...your insanity knows no bounds...let me enlighten you troll...

"my personal view would be we ought to look for ways outside of government to open up the channels and get more of a flow of people back and forth." Noting that "a fair number" of Iranians regularly visit the United States, he said, "We ought to increase the flow the other way . . . of Americans" visiting Iran.

"I think that may be the one opening that creates some space," Gates said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/05/14/ST20080514...

You see he is talking about back channels NOT with the President who should never give the appearance of meeting with dictators...why you ask..because it gives the impression of legitimacy to the dictator...Obama is a capitulator and has no sticks and only is offering carrots...he thinks his silky voice will persuade people who have been set in their beliefs for many centuries...perhaps he makes KITTENS like you meow but Iran will roar at his childlike perceptions.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

"The Bush administration has said it will talk with Iran, and consider lifting economic and other sanctions, only if Iran ends a uranium enrichment program the administration maintains is intended to produce nuclear weapons, a charge Iran denies. Although the U.S. and Iranian ambassadors to Baghdad met three times last year for discussions on Iraq, Iran has refused to continue that dialogue.

They've already met.

There are conversations with Iran all the time. We aren't stupid. We won't have any official talks until they meet some preconditions which are being communicated to them.

It is a mistake to grant legitimacy to someone who's official public position is genocide.

Socialism doesn't work. It looks nice on paper, but it's been tried and it's failed miserably every time (usually accompanied by widespread death and suffering).
Proud member of the V.R.W.C.

Socialism doesn't work. It looks nice on paper, but it's been tried and it's failed miserably every time (usually accompanied by widespread death and suffering).
Proud member of the V.R.W.C.

"only if Iran ends a uranium enrichment program"

See this part you noxious Obama supporter is why talking to Ahmadinejad is fruitless...you see we have talked with Iran and anyone who is a political junkie knows that, and guess what it has gotten us?...Iranian weapons on the battlefield in Iraq....now your idiot hero Obama is going to do what? His talking is different how...you see the only way to talk to dictators is the have the threat of force to back up your conversation...Hillary would...Obama will not.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

I have been a Hillary supporter, but you assume I'm an Obama supporter.

But I will support Obama if he is the nominee because I believe McCain would be as big a disaster as Bush has been. For all his experience he couldn't distinguish - 5 times - between Sunni and Shia, he, by his own admission, after all these years in Congress, isn't up on the economy and he would be able to nominate candidates for the Supreme Court.

I say...you are an A$$ and that is not an assumption it is a fact you liberal whiny koskid....do not come on this conservative site and badmouth the President of the United States of America...nor should you feel any more comfortable talking about our candidate this election...go back do your daily kos den of hell and tell all the other deadcats about your experience amongst the grownups....Hillary/Obama the only difference between the two is their sex....they are a embarrassment to their country.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

Today's flavor is mus

tard

I don't need to quote more...it's for you to read...been on the internet long?

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

" Got to love the Lord for making things like that."
Morally Compromised

Some troll's blog got torched today while I was putting a second spotlight in his comments. I guess Moe's just letting us bat this one around for awhile since it's Friday.

domestically....Jaded just took a nice whack at this one...

" Got to love the Lord for making things like that."
Morally Compromised

One mark of the narcisist is that they believe that every comment someone makes is referring to them.

So Obama thinks that the President's sole purpose when he spoke to the Israeli nation was to attack Obama? In so so doing, he's ruled rational explanations such as the President reiterating what he's said many time before and reassuring the Israeli nation of America's continued support in the fight against terrorists and new Hamans who call for their extermination and that of all Jews.

Reminds me of some children I know whose immediate assumption is that anything we say is directed to or spoken about them.

Unbridled, this narcisistic delusion can easily slide over to paranoia (and I mean that in the full medical sense of the word).

Do we really want as President someone with an inflated sense of self-importance who believes they are the center of the universe and who equates dissent with personal attack.

Obama gets more scary each day.

And Rightly So!

According to CNN:

The president did not name Sen. Barack Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged to CNN that the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party.

And your comment about "someone with an inflated sense of self-importance" - that is the ultimate definition of Bush and Co. sheesh! It's like the "Clear Skies" Act all over again!

It's amazing that you can't see that.

.. that even Hillary supporters are fleeing from in favor of Fox News because CNN is so far in the tank for Obama.

Pardon me if I call shenanigans on CNN anonymous sources, no matter how many times you quote them.

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Finrod's First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_b...

The frequency of Americans’ misperceptions varies significantly depending on their source of news. The percentage of respondents who had one or more of the three misperceptions listed above (see article) is shown below.

Fox CBS ABC NBC CNN Print NPR
None of the 3 20% 30% 39% 45% 45% 53% 77%
1 or more 80 71 61 55 55 47 23
misperceptions

I didn't realize spaces would be concatenated here.

you guys allow this obvious leftist liberal to rant on this site?

But he is leading idiots.

Throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one you hit . . .

Don't ever let them see you bleed, and all that . . .

What a rookie.

I'm just glad that Obama's yelping brought attention to a dead-on quote by Bush that the media otherwise would have ignored. Thanks, Barack.

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hopperbach

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

how out of all the leftists in Europe, the liberals in America, the Gulf Arabs, the leftwing Israelis, and many politicians throughout the world..

ONLY OBAMA thought he was the one being directly singled out.

I wonder why that would be?!

"Small town folks get bitter after which they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment."

Perhaps he was refering to Jimmy Carter. Or Jaque Chirac.

because Democrats like Obama "can't handle the truth."

They're all a virtual-bunch of second-rate trial lawyers unable to figure out that bad people are not defendants. They love to sit down & do symbolic gimcrackery like the energizer-bunny Gee-mah Carter with rotten apples in failed states or rogue states & call it diplomacy. Like Waddlin' Maddy-lin in N. Korea in '99.

But Democrats don't understand that in the Muddled East, bad people are 'splodin' dudes who HAVE TO BE STOPPED. And not with Obambi sit-down negotiations or Carter-like "symbols." If Iranian & Syrian controlled sock-puppets like Hezbollah & Hamas keep rocketing Israeli civilians, we should defend Israel. No "hypocrisy" there. Bush was correct & appropriate to call Obama's waffling & sidling up to terrorists appeasement.

Bush & McCain should keep attacking Obama [& of course Pelosi] on that line & whack Pelosi for wearing her ridiculous burka while plucking the hem of terrorist-chieflet Bashar Assad's robe in Damascus. That borders on treason, as Syria is a declared supporter of international terrorism & supports Hezbollah and Hamas, allowing Khaled Mashaal to reside in Damascus. And of course, those two organizations treat women as human chattel, which doesn't seem to bother Nancy.

Obama keeps floating like a butterfly on these issues without being called to account by non-journalist Obamaniacs in the MSM. Taking both sides of an issue and instinctively defending culprits and mass-murderers is one of those Democrat bad habits that Bush & McCain should keep pointing out.

Reagan never had any sit-down negotiations on the hostages with Iran whom they released at his inauguration as a good-will gesture or out of exhaustion. You don't sit down & negotiate with terrorists like Stick-Insect Assad or Ahmadodojihad.

Both of these clowns are Hitler wannabes & they'll give you "a scrap of paper" just like Chamberlain got from Hitler.

Ms. Pelosi had better get used to wearing those burkas if Obama gets elected!!!!

si vis pacem para bellum

Or do you just spout stupid statements for laughs?

You wanna kindly mind your manners? Till you've been here awhile, it's (to coin a word) STUPID to go around insulting long-time posters.

Unfair. Unbalanced. Unmedicated. -- IMAO

that you are the bad cat around here. Mind yourself, fish.

Pete

I.
Will.
Pwn.
You.

 
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