Why aren't we satisfied with Rudy, McCain, Romney?

(Do we need a saviour or a veep from the South?)

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Kathleen Parker, has written a column after deciding that John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, and Mitt Romney are ideal candidates who should be fine for what she calls, "Red Staters":

[T]he Republican Party has one of its strongest lineups ever. Yet one would think from polls showing that a third of Republicans are dissatisfied with their choices that they were stuck with a roster of has-beens and also-rans. Spoiled and well fed, they're the party of Goldilocks in search of the perfect porridge.

That is a grotesque analogy. The tale of Goldilocks, as I recall it, dealt with respect for property rights; Goldilocks invaded the home of the three bears and was chased away into the forest where she might have died a horrible death. If the "Red Staters" are Ms. Parker's Goldilocks, then we're meddling in an election which rightfully belongs to the Democrats and are selecting which of their candidates we like the best. (The porridge, the beds, the chairs – none of them belonged to Goldilocks.)

And what of her accusation that the "Red Staters" are "[s]poiled and well fed"? By what? Since President Reagan has left office, we have been fed largely with promises and hope, from Joe Gaylord's "Republican Revolution" in '94 to President GW Bush leading with tax cuts in '01. We have no reason, and we know that we cannot afford, to be a complacent movement, idly casting aside perfection for a nicer brand.

Yet once we're over that bit of clumsiness, there's more. Parker has decided why "Red Staters" are dissatisfied with Rudy, McCain, and Romney. (Remember, folks, we should be swooning.)

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For McCain, whom she describes as "as true a war hero as they come" and a splendid U.S. Senator, she thinks Red Staters should support him because he is a "maverick" who has earned "the nickname of 'RINO,' Republican in name only.

But, well, he's just a little too hot.

Very few Republicans who would vote for McCain believe him to be a total maverick or solid "name only" Republican.

For Rudy, whom she describes as the hero of 9/11 who cleaned up New York, New York, "Red Staters" are dissatisfied because:

Still, he's not quite hot enough?

Why not? Giuliani's supporters point to his leadership and personal strength.

For Romney, whom she describes as the natural heir to President Reagan, she completely loses coherency. "Red Staters" are not pleased with Mitt, she says, because:

He's beyond just right. He's too right -- too good-looking, too rich, too successful.

Mitt frightens us with his perfection? Class warfare doesn't sit well with the GOP, and everyone loves great hair.

Keeping it brief:

For me and McCain, it's BCRA and the perceived instability of his demeanor and convictions. For me and Rudy, it is life and the social matters. For me and Mitt, it's the flexibility of values and the perceived say-whatever-it-takes mentality.

And supporters of these candidates can here take issue. I hope they do, as it is why we have had a primary season. We sort it out.

But none of these candidates is ideal, though Ms. Parker disagrees:

On the other hand, maybe there's something about the Republican Party -- that it can't stand prosperity. What Republicans have isn't a vacuum, but an embarrassment of riches.

They are all good men, to one extent or the other. We can do better. Period. And at this point in history, I think it important that we do.

What they need isn't a savior, but a good VP from the South. "Just Fred" may be just the ticket.

"Just Fred" has a JD, served as co-chief counsel to the Senate Watergate Committee, a successful government lobbyist, a United States Senator, and a successful movie and television actor. He is as qualified to be President as anyone, and more so than either Hillary (early in her second term) or Obama (in his first). Or John Edwards, another one termer.

Kathleen, think: HONESTY.

What is Romney? What is McCain? What is Rudy? A "recent convert" to conservatism, a man who threatened to bolt the party last time he ran, and an admitted social liberal who has said that the truly conservative position is pro-choice.

It is impossible for me to get excited about any of those three. Fred Thompson, on the other hand, could be a candidate I would enthusiastically support. It has been a long time since that has happened, and I'm due. The party is due.

I want to see what Fred Thompson brings to this race, and I promise that I will play my part in not only helping the dust to settle but also in an effort to determine who still is standing when it does.

Oh, and reread what she wrote: "What they need isn't a savior, but a good VP from the South."

Where is she heading with this? A Veep candidate from the South would geographically balance a Presidential nominee from the North. She thinks that Thompson "may be just the ticket."

Nope. It will not happen. Fred Thompson realizes that he has only so many years to watch his young children grow to adulthood. He has said that the time he has with his young family weighs very heavily in his decision on whether or not to run for President of the United States. Fred Thompson has a lucrative job as a television actor. I do not think he is going to sacrifice such things to attend state funerals and be there in case something happens to the President.

If Fred Thompson is to be anything political at this point in our history, he is our next President.

I am a Red Stater living in a blue Commonwealth. Ronald Reagan's solutions are not now and never have been dated or passé, and it would be a fine thing if someone could allow to be implemented this vision of America with the type of charismatic forthrightness with which President Reagan spoke to us.

This could be Fred Thompson.

If not, I will support my party's nominee, but I will not boast about how fortunate we are that whomever came along when we needed him.

The Republican Party cannot be complacent when we are holding our heads high but still digging ourselves out.

Maybe we do need a savior, and keep your porridge.

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While the others might be able to beat the Witch of Rodham or the stupid kid from Hawaii, they would make lousy Presidents.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

I think any of Fred, Rudy or Mitt would make a good President.

It's John that I don't trust. He's still better than any Dem, however.

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Do you think if the Democrats had two candidates that were handily beating the Republican frontrunners, they would be so upset?

Of course not, they would be ecstatic, yet this is exactly the position Republicans are in now. We have two fromtrunners, Giuliani and McCain, that according to polls would handily trounce either Clinton or Obama.

All of the major Republican candidates are big-picture conservatives, and we shouldn't be so quick to eat our young.

"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich. "

William F. Buckley, Jr.

The GOP field has stalled and sputtered over the last few months, leaving a gaping hole that Fred Dalton Thompson can, and will, fill. I stand ready to contribute to his campaign in Virginia, and won't choose between the others unless FDT does not run.

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"Why does Fred Thompson scare the Democrats (I could have linked to just about any MSM article about him here) and why does a dog lick it's balls?"

Same reason, "Because he can..."

More at www.fredthompsonnews.com , including an address to write to Mr. Thompson, and his new 2nd ammendment commentary.

DM

John McCain is the most consistent conservative of the bunch running. He stands up for real conservative principles and doesn't waffle in the face of public opinion. That's a real conservative just like Ronald Reagan.

He will make a great nominee and will be a superb President.

If the conversation is who would make the best Vice President, I'd first and foremost say that if we have to pick a Southern person as Vice President than we may have some big problems. However, I'd be happy with McCain/Thompson. The main thing I'd like to see is a fresh start for the GOP on the national stage and no left overs!

You don't sponsor McCain-Feingold and be a conservative. You don't spend a dozen or more years running over conservatives and be a conservative. You don't arrange to throw good judges under the bus in the name of getting more TV time and be a conservative.

Sorry, but McCain won't get my vote, ever. We'd be better off with Hillary as President, because at least then there'd be some hope of the Republican Minority in Congress voting against her. I'm assuming we'll be in the minority as long as the RINO establishment in the Northeast thinks that we lost because we weren't liberal enough.

Romney I wouldn't be happy with, but I'd vote for. Rudy I'd have more trouble voting for, but would most likely vote for. Thompson's the only guy with a chance I can support whole-heartedly.

McCain will never get my vote.
Romney & Rudy would get my vote while holding my nose.
Fred will get my money and full support.
Run Fred!

other than the media whore from Arizona? Tell me more about him. He sure sounds different from the soon-to-be Depends spokesperson who used to be a Senator before he started running for President 10 years ago.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

Feingold and CPFR and anti torture act, the GOP version of Gore for gw
Rudy: I think a who is pro-choice.Period. Also pro gay rights.
Romney: I think pro-life no wait pro-choice no no wait a second....
Fred: I think tough, strong, does not need the job and someone whom I have never heard contradict himself. Very much like Reagan when ever I heard him speak on the radio or any pol. gathering.
I feel we do not need to chose someone we feel that can win. We should chose someone we want to win.

"I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
John Paul Jones (letter to M. Le Ray de Chaumont,16 Nov.1778)

I noticed that Mike Wallace on "60 Minutes" asked Mitt Romney if he and his wife had broken the strict Mormon law against pre-marital sex.

I wonder...will Mike Wallace, in turn, ask Hillary Clinton if she was ever concerned of contracting an STD from her husband?

Did you and Hillary actually have sex AFTER you were married and Chelsae was conceived?

I'm also in hearing the distinction you see between Fred and Mitt . . .

"interested" in the appropriate place

Romney is the guy I'm supporting, and I think that he is the true conservative out of the whole lot. Guiliani is a good man, but I don't trust him on the social issues or when it comes to judicial appointments.
McCain is just a horrible candidate and I find it amusing that he is pandering so hard to the Republican base that he has stabbed in the back so many times in the past. He has to be self-delusion, clueless or maybe a little of both. Whatever the case, it will be fun watching 'Senator Sellout' John McCain lose in the primaries. I'm keeping the champange on ice for that day.

Do you know what the difference between Mitt Romney and John Kerry is? One has an R after their name and the other has a D. Other than that they are EXACTLY the same. Mitt has flip-flopped on literally everything and it concerns me that he's trying to do exactly what Kerry did almost four years ago which is change his tune depending on which direction the political wind was blowing.

Let me put it another way, there is no way that a pro-life, pro-capital punishment, anti-gay marriage politician will ever win in my state of Massachusetts. When Romney ran for governor and senator he basically said everything that the bleeding hearts wanted to hear and if you don't believe me just go to YouTube and see the evidence during his debates.

If you want more info go to the following website;

http://www.viningcommunications.atfreeweb.com/MA_Republicans_For_Truth/R...

I strongly admire McCain for his service to his country and Giuliani for his handling of the 9/11 disaster but I don't feel either gentleman truly represents the spirit of Ronald Reagan like Fred Thompson does.

A whole site bashing Romney, where do I send the check? More with the Ronald Reagan Reincarnation mantra?
"I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance"-Socrates(the real one ;)

Spot on comments.

I guesss being a "devout" Mormon, Romney was agin' abortion before her was for it before he was against it. How much more Kerryesque can you get?

Put another way Romney is a ship without an anchor drifting this way and that depending on the prevailing political winds.....a man without a conscience.

Mitt' has the believability of the beautiful 22 year old gold digger who is only too willing to say anything to her 55 year old fat, sweaty, unattractive, but wealthy sugar daddy in order to secure her next treat.

Is this what we can expect from Thompson supporters for the next year? Sigh....

Are you even two different people seeing that both of you seem to have a problem with using the "Reply to This" feature. Or do you and bceagle90 get together and congragalate each other on how witty you are? I guess your not totally one sided though you at least said Mitt was beautiful.

Romney=Kerry... indeed. If you truly believe that things would be exactly the same if Kerry or Romney were elected I have a gold mine I'd like to sell you.

"I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance"-Socrates(the real one ;)

Actually there is one other difference between Romney and Kerry, Kerry is Catholic and Romney is a Mormon! :)

You can expect a dissection of Romney's inauthentic conservatism.....at every turn.

And that was quite the dissembling on your part on the Romney-Kerry comparison. Neither bceagle90 or I said "things would be exactly the same". We only noted the similar flip-flopping on hot-button issues between the Massachusetts RINO and the Massachusetts liberal.

Both are/were willing to say anything to anybody for political gain. Two peas in a pod.

So here we are. You are unable to prove that Romney is “inauthentic” in his conservatism. I am unable to prove that he is. You are unable to prove that his conversion on life issues is a sham (or that you are willing to say anything to get your candidate elected) I am unable to prove that it isn’t. You have a right to your opinion and a can express it all you want. Don’t pretend though that if you say it enough times it becomes fact.

I particularly like your talent for calling candidates “names”. Indeed how could I dispute you when you pull out the big gun like RINO?

I could sit here and attack Fred (there are areas of weakness) but I don’t want to. I am not personally offended by your attack and feel no need to vent on Fred who I am sure would not condone your slander. I have found in my experience that people who support a candidate are much more willing to do anything to win then the candidate themselves.

"I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance"-Socrates(the real one ;)

Like what Neville72 was saying, we're not trying to question how "conservative" Mitt Romney is, rather we're pointing out how he has changed his tune on several important social issues in the past decade.

Despite my total abhorrence of people like Ted Kennedy and Howard Dean, at least you have to give them credit for never wavering in what they believe in, even if it's way off base.

Then you have a clown like Kerry who said "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.”

Romney is on record during his 2002 gubernatorial campaign that "I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose. … Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government's."

Sure there may be some differences between all the candidates but the issue is how willing are they to stand up say what they truly believe rather than say something just to please the masses.....

Despite my total abhorrence of people like Ted Kennedy and Howard Dean, at least you have to give them credit for never wavering in what they believe in, even if it's way off base.

I would take someone who changed his positions any day over somebody who has been consistently wrong. You also don't know how committed these guys are to their positions. They haven't had any reason to change them yet. If you put them in the position where they had a lot to gain by changing them, you would certainly see some wavering from some of them.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

I do admire how they are always on the attack for their position instead of always showing their hand, giving up at the beginning of a fight, and caving in as our folks in the stupid party are want to do.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

"If you put them in the position where they had a lot to gain by changing them, you would certainly see some wavering from some of them."

The problem is that "The Mittster" has seemed to change his tune on numerous issues, that should concern any voter regardless of political leanings.

Honestly besides Mr. Kerry I don't know who has changed more than that!

 
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