Why Do Prominent Tennessee Democrats Think Obama Has Terrorist Ties?

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You know, if Tennessee Democrats think Obama has terrorist ties, what are independent voters going to think?

Fred Hobbs, a state Democratic Party Executive Committee member representing part of Davis’ district, said he understands why Davis is not endorsing Obama and is “skeptical” of the Illinois senator himself.

“Maybe [it’s] the same reason I don’t want to — I don’t exactly approve of a lot of the things he stands for and I’m not sure we know enough about him,” Hobbs said when asked why he thought Davis wasn’t endorsing Obama. “He’s got some bad connections, and he may be terrorist connected for all I can tell. It sounds kind of like he may be.”

Even Representative Lincoln Davis's Chief of Staff is hesitant.

His chief of staff, Beecher Frasier, said he doesn’t know for sure if Obama is “terrorist connected” but he assumes he’s not.

Holy cow this year is going to be so much fun.

Harold Ford, Jr., by the way, has repudiated Beecher Frasier's statement (Frasier was Ford's campaign manager in 2006) and the Tennessee Democratic Party has smacked Hobbs.

But the damage is done.

Oh, and Obama does have ties to terrorist Bill Ayers and has ties to a number of people with very questionable backgrounds and affiliations.

Let's see how the anti-smear site handles this. I can't wait for them to classify Bill Ayers as anything but a terrorist.


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That Ahmed Yousef is amongst the list of people that aren't the people Obama knew.

OR

He associates with Black Panthers and the Weather Underground.

OR

That his church preaches sedition.

OR

That his wife doesn't like the country.

Ooops sorry I lost track again.

Otherwise I don't know why you might think he had terrorist ties.


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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Subversion and wanton destruction of private property is just as much of a threat as an Al-Qaeda attack on our national security interests.

The intent is the same. The motivation and methods may differ.

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“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan

serving with PLO apparatchiks like Edward Said, Rashid Khalidi and Abu Albunima in Chicago on the Woods Foundation which funneled money to PLO charities..

being endorsed by:

Hamas
Jimmy Carter
Michael Moore
Raoul Castro
Bashar Assad

Advisors such as:
Tony McPeak
Samantha Power
Robert Malley
Zbig Brezinski
Tony Lake

"Small town folks get bitter after which they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment"- Barack Carter Obama

Tony McPeak, though a dunce and an absolute, abysmal failure as AFCOS (speaking as an AF veteran here), is no terrorist.

will come on election night, if he actually wins. The country will be terrorized for at least four years if that happens.


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Sorry to be the one to say it, but my reading of the mood tells me this sort of thing will backfire as an offensive weapon. It distracts and undercuts our best arguments for our candidate: level-headed decision making, common sense, steady leadership with a background that bespeaks some independent thinking and courage of conviction. Throwing down the ugly works directly against that, and plays right into Obama's narrative and message to boot.

Obama's team has been rather nimble when it comes to getting out in front of issues, which has the effect of neutralizing their problem of being wrong on so many of them. Our job (and McCain's) is not to wait for him to stumble or make a rookie mistake again so we can overtake him; we have to be more aggressive about framing the debate, like we once did not so long ago. McCain has been a reaction candidate, for the most part, which has a smell of Gerald Ford/John Kerry to it that I don't much like. Clinton (bless her little heart)demonstrated that Obama can be defined by his opponent - he doesn't have the Reagan deflector shield; he just wants us to THINK he does - because a LOT of reliable voters are still a bit skeptical, either looking for a reason to vote against him or for him. But if we sit back and fling poo about terrorist ties and *wince* secret Muslim hand gestures, etc., instead of selling quality ideas and political product, we'll lose respect from many of those voters by post time.

Fire away, but be advised that I don't much enjoy shouting into an echo chamber, so lively disagreement is welcome

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...Obama suddenly appears not to be tied to these folks.

BTW, "losing meme for us, guys"? Considering this post simply quoted Democrat leaders, I assume you're letting slip the "I'm a GOP-er!" mask and speaking to your own side here?

and get better.

Better to let them wonder why they are having no effect.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

can certainly require some "forced perspective" of even the most hardened conservative. But go easy on me, cowboy.

Clearly these are associations that should give voters cause for concern. I'm all for stripping the bark off of any smooth-talking con man. The problem is actually getting the anvil tied around him - without being dragged down by it ourselves. In my business, we do what works. And what works can vary depending on the nature of the opposition. Obama is a slippery candidate who has managed to recover from some major disasters that would have sunk the likes of Kerry or even Clinton. The climate and terrain are different from '04, as is the opponent's skill set. Recognizing these differences and adjusting our strategy accordingly can stave off the disaster that an Obama administration could bring.

McCain has to sell what he has, and we have to help him sell it. What he has doesn't dovetail with this line of attack on his opponent. Clinton could play that game because that's her style. But McCain isn't Clinton. The first rule of winning at this level is, get your opponent onto a battlefield of your choosing, and define the rules of engagement. The gas tax idea got right into Obama's wheelhouse and staked out the right territory for McCain, but instead of staying on a well-mapped offensive, he pulled back as if he was unsure where to go next. He should continue to press his own ideas on taxes and spending, sober leadership on the GWOT and Iraq (where Obama is WAY overplaying his hand), and demonstrating his statesmanship on foreign policy matters which is wherehe will eventually draw Obama out into saying something profoundly stupid on national TV.

By the way, the only "prominent" Tennessee Democrat is Phil Bredesen, and even he keeps his distance from numbnuts like Davis - who supported Edwards, fer chrissakes - and Hobbs, a Clinton supporter who was a key member of the 2000 'gang that couldn't shoot straight' in TN - that couldn't even hold Gore's home state for him. Useful idiots at best, and with precious little influence. The rural south is already dead to Obama. We've gotten whatever we're going to get from these memes.

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- Granny

I've never been to Austin but I understand Bush beat Ma Richards by "staying on message," which heretofore I can only hope McCain will do. I'd love to know if there was something more that the rest of us haven't been told. I do know Bush started out as a longshot candidate that year, much as Obama has repeated the history of "Jimmy Who?"

As for the rural South, I'm guessing Obama is hoping to get overwhelming numbers in large cities, like 65-70%, to offset the difference, though I'm sure he's betting on a more diversified strategy.

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by staying on message. It was perhaps his greatest asset as a politician. And whatever we may think about the trajectory of his administration, he's still a man who is motivated by his principles. It's genuine with him. He has some of Reagan's ability to gain respect from those who disagree with him, because he doesn't conceal his core - much like Reagan, but without the inspired communication skills of the master.
His persona was a much better fit as Texas governor, I'll leave it at that.

Similarly, McCain has warts but they make him more real; he also wears his inherent decency on his sleeve. The problem lately is that he's moved away from just being himself in favor of trying to parry Obama's thrusts, and letting the Democrats drive the narrative (the battlefield of their choosing). Notice that Clinton did a pretty nifty job of seizing control of the narrative after February and the last 3 months Obama was falling back and playing prevent D. Had Clinton planned a ground game in Wisconsin and Chesapeake before Feb 5, this could very well have turned out differently. He stumbled across with an awful lot of bruises. McCain needs to keep building on the contrast Hillary! developed, without naked appeals to Clinton supporters (which makes him look scared and weak). And he needs to start defining him now. Giving Obama time to create his own battle plan is a recipe for disaster.

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- Granny

“He’s got some bad connections, and he may be terrorist connected for all I can tell. It sounds kind of like he may be.”

This is just weird and unfair. Sen. Obama has a skimpy resume, a collection of misguided left-wing plans, and a disturbing level of naivete. He certainly knows and is friendly with a bunch of whacked out radicals. However, to have someone tossing around a statement like "he may be terrorist connected...it sounds kind of like he may be" with no hard facts to back that up is just loony.

"weird and unfair" take it up with the Democrats. They're the folk who are making these accusations.

Personally, I find them neither given his association with people like Ayres and Dhorn.
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Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground IS a domestic terrorist. HAMAS IS a terrorist organization. AND Obama is linked to these groups through personal associations and endorsements.

Pretty substantial to me.

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