Redstate

I would ask you how much it will cost us if we withdraw? I do not mean monetarily. My answer would be that the 23 billion would be irrelevant because the pullout will have proven us to be weak and the end result will be another Afghanistan pre 9-11 and we all know how that worked out.

You're saying that as a result of four years of occupation and a half trillion dollars all we have done is created a pre 9-11 Afghanistan?! Sounds like you're admitting that what our President has gotten us into is a colossal mess.

I would argue that we were doing just fine before we went into Iraq. There was no need to spend 500 BILLION on that. And before you mention 9/11, remember that even the president has admitted that Iraq was not involved in 9/11. It was 19 Saudi Arabians that took part in 9/11.

The bottom line is that there was no threat from Iraq, no need to look 'strong', that required us to commit over 100,000 troops on an endeavor that has lasted four years and shows no signs of getting better any time soon. Bush even said today that this summer should see a period of heavy fighting in Iraq.

When does this madness end?

that people will continue to argue that there was no threat from Iraq as if that was a reason not to go. Let me school you on what Iraq was is and will be, it is a front on the WOT that the President decided to open to create the conditions for democracy to get a foothold in what had always been a wasteland and a problem. When he says that we are fighting them there so as not to fight them here, he means that and that was his intent and I would submit that as of this Sept. we have not had to fight them here for 6 years. It is war and it is messy and when he says he sees things every day that tells him that we are at risk, I believe him and I am grateful he is willing to do something about it as opposed to dismissing it. When the enemy says it is at war with us I think from 9-11 forward we should listen.