Response to White House Myth/Fact on Immigration Bill

10 Key Myths About the Amnesty Agreement

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The White House released a "Myth/Fact" document about the immigration bill last week. But instead of setting the record straight, it perpetuated more myths. What follows are 10 myths the White House is telling us about the amnesty agreement.

1. MYTH: This is not amnesty.

FACT: This is amnesty. Title VI of this bill is amnesty, plain and simple. According to an op-ed by former Attorney General Ed Meese that appeared in the New York Times last year discussing the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, “the difference is that President Reagan called this what it was: amnesty. Indeed, look up the term ‘amnesty’ in Black’s Law Dictionary, and you’ll find it says, ‘the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act provided amnesty for undocumented aliens already in the country.’” It was amnesty then, and it’s amnesty now.

FACT: The proposal forces illegal aliens to acknowledge that they broke the law, pay a $1,000 fee, and undergo a criminal background check to obtain a Z visa granting temporary worker status. The acknowledgment, fee and background check does not mitigate the fact that this is forgiveness for illegal aliens breaking numerous immigration laws. The bill waives numerous provisions of current law that would require deportation.

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2. MYTH: This proposal does not repeat the mistakes of the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act.

FACT: This proposal is substantially similar to the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act and does repeat the mistakes of the 1986 law. The 1986 law failed, despite the fact that, according to Meese’s op-ed, it provided amnesty for 3 million immigrants for the price of “border security and enforcement of immigration laws” being “greatly strengthened.”

FACT: The 1986 law also allowed “most illegal immigrants who could establish that they had resided in America continuously for five years would be granted temporary resident status, which could be upgraded to permanent residency after 18 moths and, after another five years, to citizenship.” The current compromise allows a Z-visa holder to adjust to Lawful Permanent Resident status after satisfying a points system, files the application for adjustment in the applicant’s home country and pays a fee of $4,000. A Z-visa holder has the discretion to choose to stay indefinitely in the United States if the Z-visa holder chooses not pursue a “pathway to citizenship.” Meese stated in his op-ed about the 1986 law that “this pathway to citizenship was not automatic. Indeed, the legislation stipulated several conditions: immigrants had to pay application fees, learn to speak English, understand American civics, pass a medical exam and register for military selective service. Those with convictions for a felony or three misdemeanors were ineligible. Sound familiar?” Yes, it does.

3. MYTH: The government will crack down on the hiring of illegal workers.

FACT: The government will not crack down on the hiring of illegal workers. The government will be granting amnesty to illegal workers under the new Z-visa category. Thus, it will have fewer illegal workers to punish. There will be a handful of illegal workers that will not qualify for the new program that allows amnesty for illegal aliens in the country by Jan. 1, 2007. Therefore, by granting amnesty, there will be no pool of illegal workers to punish and/or deport.

FACT: A Z-visa holder merely has to provide two documents to prove eligibility. First, “sworn affidavits from nonrelatives” that the illegal alien qualifies, plus one other non-secure document. (Source: page 271 of the draft bill.) This is a huge loophole in the verification provision of who is present in the country illegally after Jan. 1, 2007.

FACT: Another loophole contains a waiver for humanitarian reasons. The deportation requirements of current law can be waived for “humanitarian circumstances.” (Source: page 1 of the draft bill.) This is yet another loophole that will prevent a crackdown on the hiring of illegal workers.

4. MYTH: This proposal would not cut in half the amount of fence built by the Secure Fence Act of 2006.

FACT: This proposal cuts in half the amount of fencing to be built as mandated by the Secure Fence Act of 2006. Only one half of the additional fencing authorize by the Secure Fence Act of 2006 must be built before the temporary worker program and Z visa could go into effect.

FACT: The Secure Fence Act authorized the building of 700 miles of new fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border. This bill provides that a trigger that the federal government has to have “installed at least 200 miles of vehicle barriers, 370 miles of fencing, and 70 ground-based radar and camera towers along the southern land border of the United States, and have deployed Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and supporting systems.” (Source: page 1 of the draft bill.) This bill allows for less than half the amount of fencing mandated by the Secure Fence Act before the Z and Y visas are issued.

5. MYTH: The trigger period will not cause a rush to the border.

FACT: Although to be eligible for a Z visa illegal aliens must prove they were in the country prior to Jan. 1, 2007, it is expected that it will not be difficult to produce fraudulent documentation to prove illegal continuous presence in the United States and employment offers or employment. This legislation creates the perverse incentive for illegal aliens to prove that they were illegally present and working in the United States as of Jan. 1, 2007. As previously stated, a Z-visa holder merely has to provide two documents. First, “sworn affidavits from nonrelatives” that the illegal alien qualifies, plus one other non-secure document. (Source: page 271 of the draft bill.) This is a huge loophole in the verification provision of who is present in the country illegally after Jan. 1, 2007.

FACT: An exception of the “Grounds of Ineligibility” for Z-visa applicants states “nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary to commence removal proceedings against an alien.” Therefore, even if a Z-visa holder is deemed ineligible for Z-visa status, nothing requires the federal government to deport the ineligible illegal alien. (Source: page 261 of the draft bill.) This is yet another loophole in the bill.

6. MYTH: By providing an opportunity for citizenship to illegal immigrants already here, the bill will not exponentially increase extended-family chain migration.

FACT: The bill will dramatically accelerate family chain migration. The bill will dramatically accelerate family chain migration over the next six years. After that time, family chain migration by low-skill immigrants will allegedly be replaced by skill-based immigration. The promised change to skill-based immigration in the distant future is unlikely to ever occur.

FACT: The bill contains a brand-new category of visas for family members. The bill contains a waiver for “family members in hardship cases.” Although this category is capped at the number of 5,000 per year, this is an exception that will allow limited chain migration. (Source: page 251 of draft bill.)

FACT: Allows visitor visas for family members of the Y visa, temporary workers that would allow the spouses of Y-visa holders to come to the country and have children who will be U.S citizens entitled to welfare benefits, also known as “anchor babies.” (Source: page 254 of draft bill.)

FACT: This bill does nothing to preclude illegal aliens coming across the border and having children that will be granted citizenship. The “anchor baby” problem is not addressed by this legislation. The Heritage Foundation has provided as study that asserts that a statutory change in law would be a constitutional means to disallow the common practice of automatically granting citizenship to the children of illegal aliens.

7. MYTH: The temporary worker program is good for American workers.

FACT: Under the guest-worker program, guest workers will be able to bring spouses and children into the United States. Children of guest workers will be entitled to free education in public schools, with an average cost of $9,600 per child imposed on U.S. taxpayers. If the spouse of a guest worker has a child in the U.S. that child will become a U.S. citizen with a guaranteed lifetime entitlement to more than 60 different federal welfare programs.

FACT: There will be two new programs for workers. The Z visa will be for illegal workers to adjust their status to legal workers and the Y visa for future temporary workers. A Y-visa program without the Z-visa program may help the U.S. economy, but taken together, the American worker may be harmed by a flood of new workers coming from illegal status and new future flow workers from foreign nations flooding the economy and depressing American wages.

8. MYTH: Illegal immigrants will not come onto the welfare rolls.

FACT: Illegal immigrants will come onto the welfare rolls. Amnesty will give illegal immigrants entitlement to welfare benefits for most of their lives. Illegal aliens will become Z-visa holders. While they are in Z-visa status, amnesty recipients will have access the free medical care under the Medicaid program, but would not be eligible for other welfare programs. After five years in Lawful Permanent Resident status, the amnesty recipients will be eligible for nearly all 60 federal welfare programs including food stamps, public housing, and Temporary Assistance to Needy families, and will remain eligible for the rest of their lives.

FACT: After a Z-visa holder completes the “pathway to citizenship” they will be availed of the same access to welfare benefits as all American citizens. Children born to Z-card holders will be immediately eligible for welfare. After a few years, Z-card holders will be given Lawful Permanent Resident status. Given that 50% to 60% of amnesty recipients will be high school dropouts, welfare use will be quite high; the average amnesty recipient will probably receive about $4,000 per year in welfare benefits every year for the rest of his life.

9. MYTH: Government agencies will be able to share information to pursue immigration violators.

FACT: This is both true and false. The government will have far fewer immigration violators, because the Z-visa grants amnesty to an estimated 12 million pool of illegal aliens who, a large percentage of which, are working in the United States. The government will not be allowed to pursue some visa holders, because once a Z applicant applies, there is a one-year time period that precludes deportation pursuant to the draft bill. The process starts when the Z-visa holder applies for a visa, then fills out paperwork. If a background check is not done by the end of the next day, the Z visa is automatically issued. Even if background check is not completed the applicant has a statutory right to get a Z visa.

FACT: This bill grants the Secretary of Homeland Security the authority to issue a national ID card to citizens. This immigration bill states that the “Secretary in consultation with the Commissioner of Social Security may modify by Notice published in the Federal Register the documents that must be presented to the employer, the information that must be provided to EEVS (Employee Eligibility Verification System) by the employer, and the procedures that must be followed by employers with respect to any aspect of the EEVS if the Secretary in his discretion concludes that the modification is necessary to ensure that EEVS accurately and reliably determines the work authorization of employees while providing protection against fraud and identity theft.” (Source: page 105 of draft bill.) This grants the authority to the federal government the authority to force national ID cards on all American citizens.

10. MYTH: Senators are asked to vote Monday on a lengthy bill that they will have time to read.

FACT: Senators will not have time to read and understand this bill before Monday's cloture vote. Working behind closed doors for months, a handful of Democrat and Republican staffers, along with a few senators and principals from the Administration, have been drafting a “comprehensive immigration reform package.” Until Saturday morning, May 19, 2007, the legislation was unavailable to any other senators or staff, let alone the media, policy analysts, or the general public. This legislation would be the most significant reform of immigration policy in 40 years, affecting not only our national security and homeland defense but the fiscal, economic, and social future of the United States for several generations. A document marked “DRAFT – FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY,” is being relied upon by senators and staff as the final language to be debated beginning on Monday, May 21, with the expectation of a vote on final passage -- without congressional hearings, committee mark-up, fiscal analysis, expert testimony, or public comment -- before the Memorial Day recess. This is not a good way to deliberate over such an important piece of legislation and tosses aside years of the U.S. Senate tradition as being the most deliberative body in the world.

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Have been doing fine work getting the information out about this bill. With any luck we won't get the bums rush again.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

that in my post "Get ready for Amexican" I posited a possible scenario involving SPP. Check out Pg. 211 of the draft bill -

"It is the sense of Congress that the United States and Mexico should accelerate the implementation of the Partnership for Prosperity to help generate economic growth and improve the standard of living in Mexico, which will lead to reduced migration".

Is it any wonder they want to ram this through before the American public can even digest it. Portents of evil....

Edmund Burke: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

At some point, it’s worth trying to climb over the rubble of the 2007 Z-1s and the 1986 amnesty and the 1965 immigration act, and going back to basics: What is immigration for? In the modern Western world, to question immigration in even the most cautious way is to risk being demonized as a racist. Most of us like to see ourselves as nice people, and so even to raise the subject of immigration – even illegal immigration – feels like an assault not on distant foreigners so much as on our self-image. Yet, whatever the virtuousness of immigration for the host society, a dependence on it is a sign of profound structural weakness, and, when all the self-congratulation about celebrating diversity has died down, that weakness ought to be understood as such. The unspoken premise behind this bill is that the socioeconomic order in America is now so dependent on the vast apparatus of a giant shadow state of illegal immigrants that it cannot be dismantled but only legitimized and thereby expanded. If that is true, that is a basic structural defect that should be addressed honestly.

Link.

It's the eleventh hour and fifty-ninth minute, but a few members of the pundit class seem to be finally waking up and rubbing the sleep out of their eyes.

There are four times as many police officers in New York City as there are Border Patrol officers guarding the entire border with Mexico, about two thousand miles long.

NYC - 37,000 officers.

BP - 9,000 officers.

Congress is not remotely serious about manintaining our borders, and cannot even be bothered to muster a good pretence.

Thank you very much for your recap on the new amnesty bill. Your article is clear, concise and a real eye-opener! Karl Marx was right--the wage slave army is moving north and Bush is rolling out the red carpet.

By number 8, my head exploded!
Wouldn't it be easier to simply annex Mexico ??

"You never need a firearm,until you need it BADLY!"

They're working on it. Offering US citizenship to all Mexicans is a good step towards it. You just gotta be a little patient.

Mexico is attempting to annex us. Looks like we're going along willingly.

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So libs, how's that Congressional Resolution to end The War™ coming along?

If they get their way...

First, they'll take California "del Norte."

Next, they'll reverse the Gadsden Purchase.

Then they'll take back southern Texas.

Finally, they'll get the whole Mexican Cession.

Run like Reagan!

then where will they go once we're operating on the same level as Mexico?

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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

as the other commenter pointed out, we annex the whole world with this bill...except in reverse.

What if 20 million Americans decided that they wanted to avail themselves to mexico and what it had to offer (humor me).
Let's say that over a 5 year period these 'gringos' became so prevalent that entire areas of communities were English only and were like islands of American culture.
Supposing as some critical mass was reached, these illegal immigrants decided they wanted official recognition and all of the rights associated with citizens. They wanted a voice in the government, afterall look how many are here!

How might the mexican government respond? Or the Canadian? Or German? Or Chinese? Or South Korean? Or Japanese? Or Australian? Or the English - well OK, I'll concede the English.

I ask again - do we owe the illegals anything?
I say no.
No one has made a case where legalising these people is in MY BEST INTEREST. The downside of this deal has been flogged in most every post I read, but no one is telling why I need to dilute my citizenship, cough up another 2.5 trillion dollars in taxes, absorb higher crime rates and suffer diminshed health care for the benefit of those who flaunt our laws and steal my tax dollars. What do I get? Cheap produce? Sorry not worth it, my country is not for sale to the lowest bidder.

Sorry to sound so mercenary but if these $&@$(#*s in DC want to shove this down my throat, I expect at least some attempt to sell me on this disaster.

You make a good point. Most of the people who are leaving Mexico for the U.S. are unemployed. Principally, this is because they are poorly educated; in many cases, they are criminals.

Its porous border with the United States has been for decades an "escape valve" for poorly conceived Mexican Government policy. When the Mexican economy goes in the tank, more Mexcian citizens end up working the United States. This prevents what Mexico has needed since its 1917 revolution: An armed revolt that removes the corrupt officials who persist at all levels of government there.

I am starting to wonder why I should bother following the law. If I commit a crime, I should be able to claim that any punishment is "cruel and unusual" unless I am provided with an amnesty that gets me special retirement and medical benefits after five years of "good behavior."

"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."

--Thomas Jefferson

from having a needed revolution against its corrupt governments.

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"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson

Mexico allowed in Americans to settle their largely empty Texas territory, and over time Texas became more American than Mexican, and then it was just a matter of time before Mexico lost it.

Now the reverse seems to be happening.

When it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies, lays eggs, walks like a duck......I swear it's not amnesty!!

Real change requires real change. -Newt Gingrich

vis Poweline.

It's a look at the process involved in making this bill, and the way in which the conservative parts of the bill ended up on the cutting room floor.

Chertoff flipped on a key provision for Homeland Security in order to get the WH want it wanted - a bill, any bill.

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"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -- James Madison

Myths Two and Six are especially important. First, those of us familiar with how the 1986 IRCA came about find the process and result so eerily similar that is makes the skin crawl. I wish former Sen. Alan Simpson of Wyoming could detail how that monstrosity fell apart within a year, i.e., how there was no enforcement and blanket amnesty at the end. From what I gather so far, this proposed legislation has even more loopholes than the 1986 law.

Point Six also is an important one. The "12 million" assumes no chain migration or birth citizenship, as you point out. I have seen estimates that this proposal actually could lead to anywhere from 34 to 66 million more "immigrants."

How the Administration and the Senate thought they could hammer out such nonsense in secret and then make people happy with the proposed legislation is beyond me.

Again, thanks. I plan to read the entire bill (which is more than my senators and president are likely to do) as soon as possible. When the elected leadership consists of such lightweights, it pays to verify and not trust.

The White House representative says they are reading the amnesty comments here on Redstate. I guess they missed this entry.

Real change requires real change. -Newt Gingrich

Has the dumbing down of America come so far that that these plastic politicians actually believe they can pass these anti-American bills? Maybe it has... When a late-night show host can walk out in the streets of America and ask anyone a simple question and get blank stares and nonsense for an answer or when TV can produce a show competeing 5 year olds against over the hill adults and get rave reviews for it or... 8 years of a clinton??, maybe the majority of Americans are clueless and maybe we are getting what we narcissistically deserve.
To me, this immigration bill is garbage and Bush is clueless. I don't care what closed door agreements with Mexico Bush has entered into, I don't care what the administration thinks it knows, they continue to undermine the people that have elected them. How much more of this abuse will we take?
My answer to illegal immigrantion is deportation, pure and simple, if you can't produce IRS verifiable tax returns for the past 3 years (as required by all citizens) and/or a verifiable passport and/or a verifiable visa, then you're out.

there would be no crisis. Mexico should be richer than Canada but corruption is the rule in government. I guess it's like saying Louisiana ought to be as rich as Texas, or at least Arkansas, but isn't because of its political culture.

lesterblog.blogspot.com

Let's everyone digg this story, and give digg's liberal userbase a kick in the arse!

http://digg.com/politics/The_New_Immigration_Bill_Myths_and_Facts
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