So, You Think The Dems Wouldn't Be So Bad?
Or Is Ned Lamont A Rovian Plot?
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Friends, we often get frustrated with the Congressional Republicans. They spend too much. They're squishy on taxes and most social issues. But, I have to ask, after seeing this clip from Ned Lamont's victory, do you really want these people in charge? It's like Saruman giving marching orders to the Orcs kind of scary. And yes, that's Al Sharpton behind Ned getting everyone to do the peace sign.
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this thread will attract the “sit this one out” crowd with their tired clichés about “rattling the veto pen”, “my vote has to earned”, “’we suck less’ is not a winning strategy”, “send a message”, “we need a purging to inject fresh blood”, “maybe a few years in the wilderness is the bitter medicine we need” and “I can’t meet my maker with blood on my hands”. Well, sitting out is a vote for KOS and the clowns he supports like this Lamont guy. I wonder if after they get over their temper tantrum if the “sit this one out crowd” will realize what we are up against in this world, and that letting the Kossacks run the show will make the world so dangerous that the veto pen will be irrelevant.
until an epiphany several months ago. No matter how I gnash my teeth over Republican spending, rampant spinelessness, etc.; a Dem/Michael Moore takeover is too ghastly to imagine. You are right. Anyone who realizes what is coming down the pike for this country cannot sit on the sideline.
Seminole 6, out
I must confess to being a bit of a one note Johnny on the topic of not sitting out. Yes, I too am aggravated with much of the GOP, but we need a palace coup with Shaddegg overthrowing SPEAKER Hastert and MAJORITY LEADER Boehner, not MINORITY LEADER Hastert. This isn't 1992 or 1998, where sitting out in a time of relative peace and prosperity (yes, I know things were bubbling under the surface, but stick with me here) and rattling the leadership's cage really had less of an impact on fighting real threats than it would now. One the one hand, we cannot say we support the troops while sitting out and letting Murtha and Pelosi abandon the military. How is that supporting the troops?
Eddiebear -- due respect, but what are you talking about? What would "rattling the leadership's cage" do to help fight "real threats" now? What has the House leadership done to lead you to believe they are "letting Murtha and Pelosi abandon the military." Murtha and Pelosi don't need Hastert and Boehner to do that; they did it a long time ago. And on the issue of spending, where was this angst when Tom DeLay was the majority leader? There has - at last - been a modicum of movement towards fiscal discipline: a "lean" (if imperfect) budget agreement, earmark reforms, a promise to implement those reforms via rules changes if the Senate can't get its act together, line item veto bill, etc. -- all this year. You talk grandly of a "palace coup," but it takes all kinds to put together a Republican majority - and it takes people who can work with all kinds to actually get conservative legislation passed. That's finally happening again for the first time in ten years.
that we cannot let Murtha and Pelosi wite and pass legislation defunding the GWOT. You may get the rattling of that veto pen you have been wanting, but we may have only 2 more years of a real fight against the terrorists.
Since 911, we have been the party of appeasement and not been there to ask the tough questions because we allowed Fox News to direct our attention toward supporting the Iraq War to make sure Republicans held on to seats in Congress. The tough questions are why did people short airline stocks and insurance stocks before 911? Why did some people stay home from work at the World Trade Center on 911? We have allowed these questions to sit on the back burner, and we could lose control of the White House in 2008 because of short term greed. We are supposed to be the moral majority, but yet we look the other way when fellow Republicans get caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Some of you may be blind, but our opponents are not! We criticized Clinton to no end, but yet allow our own to get by with much worse crimes. It is time to wake up!
LINDA
Yawn. Go back to the DailyKos. Or seek professional help for your condition.
You didn't mention that Dick Cheney sent crews of Jewish construction workers to install secret black boxes in all of the stairwells of The World Trade Center just a week before 9/11! There's secret video of it on the Internet!
You need to adjust the tinfoil on your hat, because you're obviously not getting all the most important signals.
"The white race is the cancer of human history." -- Susan Sontag.
kevinwillis.net
(translation: “Hi, trolling moby here”)
But I can no longer stand by as this administration betrays the party I love. The party of Ronald Reagan.
(translation: “Ooh, I love parties. Yes I do. I can’t believe I just said ‘Reagan’ without my gag reflex kicking in”)
My fellow Republicans have become consumed by greed, corruption and hatred.
(translation: “Why was Tom DeLay smiling in that picture? Did he know something I don’t? Naaahhh.”
When they should have been investigating how Dick Cheney blew up the twin towers so Bush could wage a war for oil and they both lied to us! They lied. People died! Taxes were cut and the children starved while we killed innocent freedom fighters with school vouchers!
(translation: “Did I just blow my cover? I think they’re still buying it”)
That’s why I must reluctantly change my allegiance to the Democratic party.
(translation: “They never suspected a thing.”)
Diebold set the charges, then blew up the towers! The planes were on autopilot. Mohammed Atta is living under an assumed name in a condo on Tinian Island. I keep forgetting, MIHOP or LIHOP?
But the Towers were cupcake. You should have seen how they stole Cuyahoga County from John Kerry! Of course, it couldn't have happened without that stooge Ken Blackwell.
Let's not tell the Kossacks....
"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"-Winston Churchill
Surely turnout will be higher in November than it was yesterday. Lieberman and Schlesinger might both have a chance.
Did you all hear about Al Sharpton endorsing predatory car title loans?
er Jesse High Jackson. Let the race baiting begin! Race Hustler to the right. Race Hustler to the left. Lamont in the middle.
Took the nickname Troll long before BlogTrolls existed...
Who is 'Curly' behind Lamont?
He's between Moe (Jackson) & Larry (Sharpton). Hillarious... the only 3 Black guys at the rally are right behind Lamont... and at least 2 of them have probably never been in that state ever until now.
Took the nickname Troll long before BlogTrolls existed...
As the film pans... it 4th (unknown) black man (obviously not that important from his position). I guess we will name him Shemp.
Took the nickname Troll long before BlogTrolls existed...
For a lot of reasons. Just look how Bill Clinton ran in 1992--as a new Democrat--and what happened after he started governing like a McGovern-lite Democrat for the first 2 years.
Lamont is an albatross for the Democrats. His win here is bad news for them--Leiberman may win as an independent, or split the vote so they lose the seat to a Republican. The chance of Lamont actually winning in the general election isn't that good.
While the modern world of Internet communications seems to be, generally, getting the disparate niches of conservatism to cooperate to defeat Democrats (most of the time, some vociferous objectors not withstanding), it's having the opposite effect on the Democrats--splintering them and making them work against each other. MoveOn.org and the DailyKos are giving the American Left and the Radical American Left more power in the Democratic party . . . but that's not good for the Democrats. And as folks like Lamont drag that Democrats further to the left, they make it harder for them to win general elections. Even if, by some fluke, Lamont actually won the general election, he's likely to be so far left (and such a kook) that he would be a very vulnerable incumbent come the next election.
It's ironic that conservatives are worried about Republicans sitting this one out, when it's the Democrats who are, in fact, increasingly faced with the choice of running and governing as unabashed leftists--and alienating the middle of their electoral base completely--or governing from left-of-center and losing their entire left-wing base, thanks to folks like MoveOn.org and the DailyKos (whose electoral track record, need I remind you, isn't that good).
And if forty years of Democrat domination (and the party was fully of Communist sympathizers and facilitators back in the day--they weren't all Zell Millers and JFKs by any stretch) didn't destroy the country, the occasional fluke win of the house, senate, or even presidency will not spell the end of days. Or conservatism.
And . . . while I might be tempted to be a "Republicans haven't earned my vote" type of voter (and, indeed, they have hardly done much to earn my vote), the Democrats have campaigned ceaselessly to make me vote against them, and show no signs of stopping. So, while I may technically be voting for Republicans this November, I will, in fact, be voting against Democrats. While I would love to be voting for an excellent candidate, I do understand that some politicians, and some political parties, must be voted against.And the Democrats are increasingly that party.
"The white race is the cancer of human history." -- Susan Sontag.
kevinwillis.net
We criticized Clinton to no end, but yet allow our own to get by with much worse crimes. It is time to wake up!
Go troll SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I am telling you that you only represent, at best, 5% of the electorate right now. There are people that are fed up with the policies of the GOP that allow people in our party to get by with things that the Democrats would catch hell for. You need to be a part of the solution, and help change the character of this party. I believe in ethics, and my opinion is the majority beliefs of those that vote. We are tired of our taxes being flushed down the toilet.
LINDA
5% from?
And what else are you talking about? How do you define Republican if you are one?
I remember the airline short stock sales being a story but never really being established as fact, and if it was anybody it was either Al-Qaeda financiers or someone like George Soros.
The first thing you need to figure out is that agreeing with Cynthia McKinney on 911Conspiracies%trade; won't get any respect around here. Based on the rest of the stuff you've written in the two posts I've read you need to get back on your meds.
Go elsewhere quietly, we'll forget about you.
Either that or write a blog about how 911 really happened. Heh.
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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?
this is not a good sign for moderate to conservative democrats. they can marginalize me for all i care though...i have been and always will be a democrat. i wonder if the people at du/kos/moveon.org/ect realise that getting rid of the moderates and conservatives in the party that won't "toe the leftist line" is going to result in the democrat party having no more then 30 or so seats in the senate and no more then 150 seats in the house (at best)....
"Suppose you were a congressman, and suppose you were an idiot. But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
You see, I estimate that there are about 10% of the population that wields the political winds leading up to elections. I am splitting this number in half to say that Republican activists account for 5% of the wind blowing the sails of politics. The other 90% are busy working and watching American Idol, but those are the ones that must be persuaded how to vote. Right? If I am a fiscal conservative, and I have lived over a half century then why do you want to discount what I have to say? That is stupidity, and that is how the Democrats lost to Nixon during the Vietnam War. You see, I know because I was in high school at that point in history. Wise people listen to what their elders have to say.
Truth has a way of grating on the nerves of those that wear rose colored glasses.
LINDA
Ok, you've convinced me. From now on, whatever position Robert Byrd takes, I'm onboard. He's the oldes guy around, he must be the wisest.
Do you people even listen to yourselves???
Fortuna Favet Fortibus
One internet search will find what we need.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12621696/
Maria Esther de Capovilla or
Cruz Hernandez’s
They both sleep a lot... that might lead to smaller government!
Took the nickname Troll long before BlogTrolls existed...
"this is stupidity"
and hey, this is a threaded message board, you can put your response under the appropriate comment. oh wait, you can't, cause you just went BLAM!
I am not your mother-in-law, Conservative! But I do know a good many mothers and grandmothers that think like I think, and they want our soldiers to be brought home. Call it cut and run if you want, but that is nothing more than a slogan that Chicken Hawks that conveniently avoided serving in Vietnam and avoided serving in the Gulf War.
aka: Newt Gingrich, Sean Hannity, Neal Boortz, Bill O'Reilly and many more. You can find a whole bunch just like them by googling Chicken Hawks in the media and Congress.
We even have a good many of Chicken Hawks right now that have not put their money where their mouth is and joined the military today.
Truth has a way of grating on the nerves of those that wear rose colored glasses.
LINDA
It's not because you're speaking truth to power. It's because you're chickenhawking without a license, and because you're expounding stupid 9/11 conspiracy theories.
We really need to newest comments thing back -- and yes, everyone, Clayton's doing yeoman's work, so it's coming eventually. In the interim, my apologies for not catching this sooner.
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Even those who learn from history are surrounded by those doomed to repeat it.
Robert Byrd has done forgot more than the rest of us have ever learned! When you get to the top, the only other path is down. That is sometimes what people need is a good wake-up call. I will fight for Republicans that take a stance for bringing the troops home! Until that time, my money is staying in my savings account.
Truth has a way of grating on the nerves of those that wear rose colored glasses.
LINDA
to find this half-century of wisdom you say you're sharing but I'm missing something.
If being a good Republican means wanting the troops home now, regardless of consequences, then I'm really lost. I thought the next logical step in the GWOT was to blitzkrieg Syria and nuke the entire Iranian military-industrial complex.
...you're thinking in terms of WINNING. Haven't you ever heard the phrase, "loveable losers"?
See, if we lose the GWOT, everyone will love us! The terrorists can then resume their careers peacefully scooping frozen yogurt and playing with puppies.
We cannot persuade Republicans to effect conservative ideals if they are not in power. We can expect the Borking of our judicial nominees if the Democrats regain the majority.
That is the most ridiculous thing that I have heard lately!
Jo
You'd better hope you're not posting from a place of work.
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.
And I was scared...Lamont is a scary guy -watch his eyes as he slings the "talking points"...I am not so sure he even believes himself when he talks, but he sure does get in those soundbites.
The FOX people were talking behind the airing of this speech, and they were opining that the black vote went, for the most part, to Lieberman-that Lamont took the educated, well-off elites and Lieberman took the blue collars...they found it an interesting contrast that Al and Jesse were behind Lamont given that their "constituents" likely backed Lieberman.
These guys are all just a little too wrapped up in winning and losing...wonder when they'll wake up and ask themselves what they're gonna do NOW...now that they are actually going to be expected to pony up and make us all safer and more secure, and healthier, and closer in quality of life to the rich folk that got them elected...
Proud to be: politically incorrect, straight, white, pro-life Christian, and of the opinion the spotted owl tastes just like chicken.-watch his eyes as he slings the "talking points"...