The Pirates of Tehran
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Oil prices fell. The stock market rose. Video images of smiling British soldiers with Iranian President Ahmadinejad were everywhere. So were pictures of the 15 freed hostages embracing family members back home. The relief over the return of the Brits was so tremendous; you could almost hear birds singing.
Maybe it's because military action won't be needed or maybe it's just because the ordeal won't drag on and on, but the world is breathing easier now. A lot of folks are happy. The problem, as I see it, is that Ahmadinejad seems to be the happiest.
And why shouldn't he be? He has shown the world that his forces can kidnap British citizens, subject them to brutal psychological tactics to coerce phony confessions, finagle the release of a high-ranking Iranian terror coordinator in Iraq, utterly trash the Geneva conventions and suffer absolutely no consequences.
The UN Security Council summoned its vaunted multilateral greatness to issue a swift statement of sincere uneasiness. The EU, which has pressured Britain to rely on Europeans for mutual defense instead of the US, wouldn't even discuss economic sanctions that might disrupt their holidays. Even NATO was AWOL.
Please do keep reading . . .
Tony Blair doesn't appear to be in much of a mood for celebrating. I don't know how he could be, given the troubling spectacle of British soldiers shake the hand of their kidnapper as a condition of release. In the old days, they would have kissed his ring -- but wearing Iranian suits and carrying swag more appropriate to a Hollywood awards ceremony may have been as embarrassing. Ironically, Blair's options are fewer by the day as his own party moves to mothball the British fleet, once the fear of pirates and tyrants the world over.
Some in the West seem part of Iran's propaganda war; claiming that the release of the hostages was a victory that proves the Iranian dictatorship can be reasoned with. To misrepresent unpunished piracy as a victory is as Orwellian as the congressional mandate banning use of the term "the global war on terror." What are we — Reuters?
Ahmadinejad must be particularly pleased to see "deep thinking" journalists making the case that American actions in Iraq were the true cause of the kidnappings. To believe this, all you have to do is ignore the history of the Iranian Revolution, which has been in the extortion business ever since it took power. Between the 1979 American embassy crisis in Tehran and the seizure of Israeli soldiers last year by Iran's Hezbollah proxies, there have been more than a hundred other examples.
If you include the imprisonment of pro-Democracy dissidents and non-Shi'a Muslim minorities within Iran, the number reaches easily into the tens of thousands. The dwindling and persecuted Christian population of Iran, I suspect, found little joy in Ahmadinejad's explanation that he was freeing his victims as an "Easter gift."
It is critical that we see this incident as part of a long pattern of behavior -- that will continue as long as the current leadership is in power. More importantly, it will escalate unimaginably if Iran achieves nuclear status, and with it the ability to hold millions rather than individuals hostage.
I have no idea if Ahmadinejad and those who put him in power really believe the Shi'a Twelver doctrine that they can spur the messiah to return by triggering Armageddon. You have to admit, though, that the possibility that they look forward to entering paradise as martyrs would make them a whole lot scarier as a nuclear power than the USSR ever was.
There is hope, though. The Iranian people are not an anti-Western horde. They're an educated and freedom-loving people for the most part, and reformers there have been begging us for support and sanctions that would weaken the ruling theocracy. Instead, they've just seen the Iranian dictatorship successfully bully the West into impotent submission. This is not a good thing.
We need to understand this and use every means at our disposal, starting with serious and painful international sanctions, to prevent Iran's rulers from becoming the nuclear-armed blackmailers they want to be. Unfortunately, we are hearing demands that we abandon the people of the Middle East who have stood up to Islamo-fascism because they believed us when we said we would support them.
If we retreat precipitously, the price for that betrayal will be paid first in blood and freedom by the Iranian people, the Kurds, the Afghanis, the secular Lebanese, the moderates in Pakistan and the Iraqis themselves. And America's word may never be trusted again.
Right now, the pirate Ahmadinejad is clearly more confident about the outcome of the Global War on Terror than we are. That ought to give us pause.
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Many await with interest as you decide whether to pursue the Presidency. Nearly as many await an affirmative response so we can aid in whatever way we can.
From a loyal supporter since 1994.
It's nice to have you here, stay a while, kick off your shoes and have a glass of tea. It's going to be interesting these next few months, what better place to watch if from then right here in our house.
You honor us, thank you for coming.
Managing Editor
There's intellectual honesty here, because a distinction is made between the Iranian people--who are not what most Red Staters think of when they think of Muslims (they are, in fact, well-educated, mostly reasonable people with their eye on the future as much as ours is)--and Ahmadinejad, who is a ruthless, albeit slightly inept, politician. And the infrastructure that supports him.
I disagree, however, that the British should have taken a blow-them-out-of-the-water attitude. They had their ROE, they assessed that it was more important to be taken captive than to spark an international incident.
I wouldn't exactly call these people cowards.
"Jesus taught forgiveness, compassion, understanding, and rejected hate, violence, war, and intolerance. We could use him back at our temples." -- E. Grey Seville
RedThinker:
Seville understood nothing about Jesus.
Jesus hated sin. He was violent toward his enemies. He was intolerant of their evil.
Jesus in the temple today would end up just as crucified as he was 2000 yrs ago.
If you believe for one second that crucifixion is a passive act your arrogance is exceeded only by your ignorance.
Jesus was a man of violence but not a man of evil. Show me where he rejected hate, violence, war and intolerance.
Thompson's words are powerful because they demand more than a passive acceptance of evil. Jesus demanded a price be paid for evil. He sacrificed his life as an act of war against evil. Thousands of our young people have done the same in Iraq.
This girly man you speak of is not the Christ who died for me. I will die for my Christ. Will you die for yours?
You are such a troll! Jesus was all about love and peace, and I say that as an Othodox Jew who averts his eyes at the annoying Easter banner at the top of this page.
I guess you've never had the experience of being a minority in a world that doesn't really accept your view as legitmate and is constantly trying to change it. You'd understand if you had. I've been called a Christ killer, and I was born in 1972. Yes, that's AD.
Yes I have, being a Practicing Christian in the USA nowadays leaves you open to the most heinous insults and discrimination, at least on occasion. I have nothing but love for my Jewish brethren, but would like them to show tolerance for me.
As to the nature of Christ from the gospels, I would say he lies somewhere in between what you say, and what Amos said. He certainly was not a Milquetoast, and did not countenance sin. The sins he railed against though, were not the sins that many religious people are all hung up on. He was mostly against hypocrisy and the sin of pride.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan
You took down the Easter Banner before I got a chance to see it...
There are those who look on Dresden and Tokyo and Hiroshima as some of the greatest evils ever perpetrated by man. I look on them and thank the perpetrators for saving millions.
A very short digression from the thread subject for a bit of clarification. Actually, CE is more commonly regarded as an abbreviation for the phrase "Common Era". Refer to this site as well as many others. It was the normal way of referring to the modern calendar when I attended non-Christian religious school growing up.
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For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)
How arrogant can you possibly be? I'm an Orthodox Jew, I don't avert my eyes when I see something with which I don't agree or even find offensive. To say that the founder of Christianity was only about Love and Peace and Harmony is to slander the religion which over a billion people hold dear. What I hope is that the people who are reading your repulsive comments don't allow them to reflect on the rest of us. You are a left-wing, anti-Christian Jew. Actually I am very friendly with plenty of Christians and I know that they see you for what you are (and it AIN'T got nothing to do with your religion).
I don't feel the need to go through my history, but no one in America defends Israel's right to exist like Evangelicals, and that includes the left-wing idiots who have backed Pelosi and Hoyer! Wake up and smell the pig pooh you've been sleeping in the left in this country and around the world hates Jews. And frankly that starts well before Roosevelt (and Dulles) ordered the S.S. St. Louis to turn around and go back to Europe, comdemning over 900 Jews to their deaths.
No need to avert your eyes... no one here believes that Jews killed Christ. He was the perfect Lamb of God slain from the foundations of the earth whose blood redeems all of mankind. Peace be unto you, brother. Love is the fulfillment of the Law. Love thy neighbor as thyself and do unto others as you would have done unto you. That is the Law of the New Covenant.
Jesus did warfare against the Romans, the Temple and others who set themselves up as God. His warfare was bloody and brutal. He put himself in harms way and became martyred by the forces of evil that surrounded him.
The sacrifice of his life was not an act of pacifism. It was in-your-face conflict. He encountered evil directly with the most powerful tool available, his life. His murder could never be construed as other than murder with evil intent. This is not the action of someone trying to avoid conflict. In fact Jesus forced conflict. He sought it out and demanded that evil show its hand.
So it is with armies of liberation. They force evil into the open. The war in Iraq is in the tradition of Christ and his war against evil. We have forced the evil doers onto the field by creating an environment of liberation from their tyranny that they cannot tolerate. Our troops bring light into the darkness of Islamofascism. If these fascists were men of peace they would lay down their arms and celebrate the liberation of their people. Their bloodthirsty rampage proves their evil and we seek them out to encounter and destroy them.
We are God's army, bringing justice and freedom where before there was murder and mayhem. Our soldiers march under the rubric of the cross of Christ. There is no more powerful or profound tradition opposing evil.
and you're no prophet.
Perhaps you should heed Paul's advice concerning argument. He tells us to present Christ crucified. And to do it in an inoffensive manner because He, Christ, is the stumbling block.
You might also want to refer to the OT with reference to false prophets and be thankful that we live under grace.
Have a blessed Easter morn.
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
There are always appeals sufficient to reject the living Christ. Paul is the constant device of the weak and the scoundrel. Yet he was rejected by his own for his many offenses. Christ is offensive to those who claim to be inoffensive.
You have neither read nor understood my words. It has taken mere minutes to discern the cowards on these forums.
I don't really care one way or the other about your personal relationship with Jesus; I do care when said relationship encourages you to engage in the insult direct. Damp it back (says the moderator). Aside from everything else, it's Easter morning, and He is Risen.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
I am to understand, then, that Christians are to be insulted at will on these boards but are not to reply with clarity and truth.
If that particular head-trip is what it takes to make you play nice here, then go for it.
But you will play nice here.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
I was personally and directly insulted 3 times, count them. I replied in an impersonal, objective manner. For this I have been labeled insulting and been told I am not playing nice. Please clarify.
Subject closed.
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The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
That wasn't very nice. We're all here talking about Fred and all of a sudden get a thread jack and we're off discussing religion.
Party foul.
RedThinker,
You are wrong.
We all would not be in the position we have been in for the last three decades if Jimmah Carter wasn't an idjit and had a pair. We also would have not had to put up with 3 decades of Islamofascist terrorism if the UN was actually what it is supposed to be. The UN is way past it's sell by date-it reeks of corruption and decay and needs to be discarded. But I digress...
I do agree about the people of Iran. Unfortunately we are not dealing with them. We are dealing with their Islamofascist tyrannical rulers. And the ONLY thing those boys understand is violence and overwhelming use of force. Why the hell do you think the Islamists have never fought Israel in a conventional war setting since the 1970's? I will tell you-they can not handle getting beaten like a red-headed stepchild. The Islamist male ego is very immature and fragile.
What we need to do with these mullahs and that Ahmadinejad is to bitch slap them so hard they will soil their undergarments at the mere thought of pulling any more crap. Slap them down so hard that they will soil them if they think that WE think they are screwing around. They are much like Jackals-if they see weakness they will go for the throat. Hit them with a stick and they go slinking off with their tail between their legs.
Unfortunately the EU, UN and the US Congress all showed their true face on this one. The face of Neville Chamberlain. I am sure Ahmadinejad and the mullahs are much encouraged. The Europeans will pay for this in a few years time, just like they had to pay for their appeasement of Hitler. The UN is useless and is best ignored.
As far as the US is concerned I will quote what Victor Henry told FDR; 'All I know is that for the next four years we will need a very strong Commander-in-Chief'. The Islamists are much encouraged by Pelosi shutting down any vote of condemnation of Iran in this matter, they are also very much encouraged by her idiotic behaviour in Syria. I will guarantee you that the Islamofascists greatly desire that the next President is a Democrat and the House and Senate stay in Democratic control. You see, the Islamofascists know they can treat them like a pimp treats one of his whores and the Democrats will grovel to them. The Democrats are in the Islamofascists harem now.
Rules of Engagement!? Soldiers on the ship and in the boats can't figure out that the protection of their brothers and self-preservation is the first rule??
Abducting the soldiers of a foreign power ISN'T an international incident!? Whether they thought they were in their waters or not!
Continuously parading them in front of camera's expressly against the Geneva Convention is not an international incident!? Threatening their lives to put on their dog-and-pony show to confess their guilt of a nonexistent crime!?
By what modicum of reasonable thought do you pretend to imitate?
indicate that the Rules of Engagement were a significant factor, because the Brits weren't allowed to shoot until they called the Home Office for permission. By then it was too late.
I've also seen reports that the Home Office didn't regard them as being in a combat zone, and therefore did not properly prepare them for the possibility of being captured.
While I will assign 20% of the blame on the soldiers who should have known better even if their commanders didn't, I will also assign 80% of the blame on the politicians and Home Office who seem to think the Global War on Terror is a game with rules, and not a battle of wills.
As I was just telling my co-worker today, there are 2 kinds of liberals: (1) those who don't believe in God, and (2) those who believe that God is a closet liberal.
Matthew 10:34-35 --
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man a variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter against her mother in law."
"Jesus the (closeted) Pacifist" is right up there with "Jesus the (closeted) Environmentalist" and "Jesus the (closeted) gay rights advocate". They all belong to the holy trinity of false gods.
You can twist scripture any way you want to, but if you find yourself at variance with key doctrines of Christianity, you can rest assured that you are going down the wrong path.
Senator Thompson - welcome!
Your comments are to the point and will be well received on these pages!
As to your potential presidential run...
I hope that if you enter the race you might do so quickly... As Governor Romney has said: "come on in the water's fine."
Otherwise, I know that Mitt would welcome your endorsement :)
I rarely agree with every word somebody says, whether in speech or writing. However, you are off to a good start.
Do keep it up! :-)
Please, please, please, please, please, please!!!!!!
I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.
He spent too much time around Hollywood liberals and now he's just another brianwashed L.A. type. Stick with your dayjob Fred!
as former Senator Thompson is gracious enough to offer his insights, and does so in so lucid and compelling a manner, he deserves a better reception.
That's got to be one of the cheapest shots I've seen on this board in a while. Sustain your comments with something other than drivel, please.
It's ridiculous how wrapped up some people get in their own Presidential choices that they act this way.
Run like Reagan!
to back up your claims?
We are ready to read anytime.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan
How does that even make sense given the article he just wrote? If Senator Thompson can spend his days around LA liberal Hollywood types and still see past the fog, and give cogent anlysis, then in my mind he is just the leader the nation has been praying for.
I think we have many fine conservatives, but no one that has really stood out as the one who will be able to give the smack down to the silliness of the media and the libs. I was beginning to fear one would not come.
This is either a joke or a liberal trying to infiltrate a conservative blog. Don't forget that Reagan not only spent much of his life with those liberals in Hollywood, but he was actually the head of SAG and stood up for those liberals when the government came after them with communist accusations (some of which turned out to be true, some of which were not). Please explain if this was a joke, otherwise we'll just assume you are liberal trying to stir things up.
dave is a poster child for that old adage 'It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool then to open it and remove all doubt.'.
He's provided more for this country in one year than your entire lineage has in its existence.
Show some semblance of decency as if you knew what the word meant.
"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and the sincerity of Hollywood."
You don't know what his lineage is. He may very well be a mortal embarrassment to some very respectable people in our history
There are those who look on Dresden and Tokyo and Hiroshima as some of the greatest evils ever perpetrated by man. I look on them and thank the perpetrators for saving millions.
Then pass the weed and call me Barbra. I'm signing up.
"The pain inflicted by your country's indifference is tenfold that inflicted by your ruthless captors."
Rep Sam Johnson on the House floor commenting on his experience as a Vietnam POW
done much better with actors than with Governors, Senators, CongressCritters™, and former Vice Presidents.
As a matter of fact, the only POTUS I've been OK with in my lifetime was an actor.
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
To the land of wind and ghosts.
As an aside: you know that you are really on the right path when the trolls come out to play mind games on RedState.
"...and each wasted evening is
a gross violation against the
natural course of your only life;"
-Charles Buckowski
to have you with us.
In Vino Veritas
Please!! Oh, my word, I would fall out of my chair if you got in. I hope you keep giving sending Redstate posts like this. A man can only go without nourishment for so long. ;)
I am honored Mr. Thompson.
I am honored to see you here. I appreciate your forthright candor in explaining your views on Iran. I had posted about your possible run for the presidency that was in the "Politico" web site this morning.
I had a response to that post in which the person in question was not familiar with your views and positions on issues. I do honestly believe your willingness to post your views and thoughts here will go a long way to dispelling any "unknowns" or "misconceptions" on your views.
I have not hid the fact that I am a supporter of yours. I am praying and hoping you chose to run for president. You would be a very good one sir.
"Wubbies World" - MSgt, U.S. Air Force (Retired): "Call to Me and I will answer you, and I will tell you great and mighty things, which you do not know." -Jer 33:3-
to see your name at the top of the front page Fred.
I welcome you to Redstate, officially sign up as your number one fan, and look forward to much more from you over the next 10 years.
As for your maiden piece, well done, and I couldn't agree more. The greatest concern I have with what you suggest, is the idea that so few see the separation between the Iranian people and the puppet regime running their daily lives into oblivion.
Too many people believe that, because they were "elected" they represent the will of the people, and as such give no regard to the crisis Ahmadinejad brings to the international table.
Keep 'em coming sir...
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
I wanted to sign up for that "number one fan" position. :P
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" ~Ronald Reagan
None of the Rupublicans running in 2008 are under the age of 60. I wonder if that will comeback to haunt us considering Obama is picking up speed. I was watching McCain on CSPAN the other day and he looks alot older when he's walkign around as opposed to the Meet the Press closeup shot we normally see. McCain and Thompson better start powdering their nose so they don't look like a dead corpse on election day. hehe no disrespect, just telling the truth.
days after his inauguration.
What is your point?
Oh, that's right, you really don't have a valid one.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan
like Bush and Clinton had to. These guys started fresh looking and now they look old and beat down. Imagine a 70 year old going through all that. Scary thought.
News, internet?
What president deals with that?
That's why they have press people.
Seriously, you are beginning to be tiresome.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan
No class and definitely no manners.
"Wubbies World" - MSgt, U.S. Air Force (Retired): "Call to Me and I will answer you, and I will tell you great and mighty things, which you do not know." -Jer 33:3-
then maybe we should start worrying about Obama.
Doubt it, though. Hillary's probably going to take it, and she's a sexagenarian. (Watch your minds, I mean she'll be over 60!)
I have permission to date other women while my wife is away...
There are those who look on Dresden and Tokyo and Hiroshima as some of the greatest evils ever perpetrated by man. I look on them and thank the perpetrators for saving millions.
No disrespect? How on earth could this be anything but disrespectful--not to mention pathetically shallow and banal? You were right to retract below, and I suggest that next time you engage your brain before your (cyber) mouth.
I see you quite rightly retracted this"I'm kind of old-fashioned. I like to engage my brain before my mouth." Donald Rumsfeld
"I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience."
"I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
John Paul Jones (letter to M. Le Ray de Chaumont,16 Nov.1778)
Since McCain/Feingold....
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Ah always keep mah feathahs numbahed, foooor just such an emergency!
He only lost 25% of his support with McCain/Feingold (I would be one of them). That meant he still might have been able to win a Republican primary. But then he went and did the Gang of 14 and lost another 25% of his support. The first only made it difficult, the second impossible. After that, your would have thought he'd know better than to snub CPAC, where he probably lost another 25%. At this stage of the game, he's in it because he's stubborn, not because he can win.
Otherwise, why are you doing this? Who do you think you're impressing? (Do you have an online sweetie you're wooing with this display of "cybercourage?")
If we could be throwing real rotten eggs at you, we would.
"Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?" (Macaulay)
...we should have a 13 year old, say like yourself, who should be the POTUS of '08...Great.
"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and the sincerity of Hollywood." - Fred Thompson
What the Republican party needs now is a candidate that can motivate, inspire, lead and WIN!
While I am leaning towards Rudy, good luck with your candidacy and may the best man win!
However, I do have a bone to pick with you as a L&O fan. Your character kind of dumps on the ADA's from time to time. Tsk, Tsk! :>)
I will keep the age problem to myself. Please feel free to delete that.
If you have a problem with Messrs. Thompson's age or day job, you
a) start another thread instead of jacking Messrs. Thompson's well thought out contribution
b) stop acting like a class idiot (I was personally suprised you were not banned for your comment above, but that's me)
c) withdraw from your shallow comments and observations and actually look at the 2008 field.
Welcome Senator
How about some more blogs on how you see the issues confronting this country and what a President Fred would do. Love to hear more about what you think about the following in no particular order:
Illegal immigration
Social Issues like Gay marriage (defending DOMA) and abortion.
Taxes
The role of the Federal Governement in environmental policy
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Dennis Miller for President...no more wimps!
I would hope that you would enter the Republican Primary. I would like to see you and you ideas, values in the race. Good luck. Your perception of what we are up against in this world is refreshing and heartening. Please run.
This was a great post. It shows real insight into the complexities of Iran without compromising our standards regarding freedom and democracy. You have my vote in the Republican primaries should you care to run. Please do.
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Run, Fred, Run!
Welcome to RedState. The wicked triumph when the good do nothing. It is time for the good to take their stand, eh?
"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"-Winston Churchill
"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"-Winston Churchill
Gee, I dunno - if a "stongly worded letter" from the UN had in fact been sent to Ahmadinaggedon's mailbox right after their capture, I'm pretty darn sure the 15 brits would have been released far earlier.
....not
Fred Thompson in 08. A no brainer. Where do i donate?
Senator you are spot on about Iran. I had been leaning Rudy, but him going off the deep end w/ Taxpayer funded abortions + what you just said in this article has me ready to hop on your bandwagon.
Where do I send my check to Thompson08?
I sincerely hope that Senator Thompson is aware of the tidal wave of support awaiting him if he runs. All I seem to see among much of the field is either defeat and dispair or simply underwhelming. I doubt the Senator will ever read these comments, but America needs someone like Fred Thompson.
post, all I can say is-
Nail, meet the hammer.
Leverkuhn, I hope you read this and give considerable thought to just how big a victory this little hostage incident for Iran actually was.
And please know that I say that with the utmost respect for you and your opinions.
America had better be ready, because it can get much worse now that these fools have been emboldened.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan
If the Senator knows exactly where the British ship was, it would be interesting why the evidence presented to him hasn't been made public.
And if the Senator has seen such evidence, it behooves him to say as much when he calls this event a kidnapping.
I have no solid evidence the ship was on either side of any maritime boundary, and think capturing the vessel, if on the wrong side of the border, is within the bounds of fair play.
Unless there are some out there who would tolerate a Cuban gunboat sailing near Miami.
For a good military reference on the Shatt al-Arab over the last 500 years, I would submit this article, from the Pakistani "Defence Journal" Shatt Al-Arab from July, 1999.
Gee Josh you been here all of 10 minutes and you are already in-lighting us rubes...good one.
You think maybe John 'F'n Kerry' and his magic hat could have maybe done something like a Ramboish rescue or perhaps the KOS kids might have parachuted in with Nasty Nancy (head scarf and all).
While we're speculating, where did the Master of the boat that the Brits were searching think he was?
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Dennis Miller for President...no more wimps!
attention the last several days.
Either that or you are just an idiot.
Your choice, matters not to me.
Just shut up since you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Or come back and play nice when you have done your homework.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan
You might want to stay for at least an hour or two before you poke someone in the eye.
Signature disclaimer: I'm not currently paid by any campaign, but I am available. Current preferences for President: 1) F.Thompson; 2) Romney; 3) McCain; 4) Gingrich; Guiliani removed 04/03/07
Taking bets on how long before "Josh" leaves a hot steaming pile on the carpet? Anyone on Under or Over estimates.
I'll take, his next posting should be a doozie.
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Dennis Miller for President...no more wimps!
I give even money that he won't make it to the bathroom with this one. He can't help himself.
"Wubbies World" - MSgt, U.S. Air Force (Retired): "Call to Me and I will answer you, and I will tell you great and mighty things, which you do not know." -Jer 33:3-
"I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
John Paul Jones (letter to M. Le Ray de Chaumont,16 Nov.1778)
Hmmm gone already, wonder if the IP came up as a serial troll or what.
Never mind, don't need to know.
As idle chit hat, I wonder what the record is for a "blam".
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Dennis Miller for President...no more wimps!
happened in the Persian Gulf, not in the Shatt al-Arab, I suppose I'm at a bit of nonsense is supposed to prove.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
"Access Denied" page to display how long they lasted. It will make the O/U pool a whole lot easier.
Thanks in advance...
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
>Ahem<
Condemn ye the wicked,
But suffer ye the foolish with tolerance -
They need the rest of us... (badly)
;-)
What an honor to have you here!!!!! I have only one thing to say;
RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where do I donate. I know you can win.
"I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
John Paul Jones (letter to M. Le Ray de Chaumont,16 Nov.1778)
Sign me up too!
"Wubbies World" - MSgt, U.S. Air Force (Retired): "Call to Me and I will answer you, and I will tell you great and mighty things, which you do not know." -Jer 33:3-
Welcome to Red State.
As you can see from my signature, I'm a fan of what I've heard from you. I know that you and Newt are out there "waiting," but don't wait too long. Unfortunately, you're going to have to raise a lot of money if you decide to run.
It would also be good to see you in the Reagen Library debates.
Signature disclaimer: I'm not currently paid by any campaign, but I am available. Current preferences for President: 1) F.Thompson; 2) Romney; 3) McCain; 4) Gingrich; Guiliani removed 04/03/07
I have no doubt you are very selective in which venues you chose to use to enter the blogosphere, and I'm thrilled that Redstate meets your criteria, and I sincerely hope you continue to post here.
Your points here were dead on.
Please listen to the folks here urging you to run. We do so because we feel we cannot do better.
I know asking you to run is asking a lot, and there is much that has to go into the decision. But it's truly not asking as much as we ask of 19 year old kids in Iraq every day. If that sounds right to you.... you'll have my vote.
For the sake of this nation, please run for the Presidency.
Your plain spoke voice of truth and belief in a strong defense while keeping government to a minimum (and the understanding and explanation why this is important) is missing.
Please Senator Thompson, run.
It’s an honor. This post is exactly what I remember about your tenure in the U.S. Senate. Plain-spoken words which advance the position that time-tested conservative principles are the right solution, and a biting wit that exposes the untenable.
For instance:
Some in the West seem part of Iran's propaganda war; claiming that the release of the hostages was a victory that proves the Iranian dictatorship can be reasoned with. To misrepresent unpunished piracy as a victory is as Orwellian as the congressional mandate banning use of the term "the global war on terror." What are we — Reuters?
Very Reaganesque, and quite a revealing statement.
An answer to your rhetorical question – “What are we — Reuters?”
“No, but they certainly are Democrats, and since the Democrats are now the "sole owners" of a disgraceful defeatist agenda, it’s apparently time to expand the mission in the global war on terror to also include the defeat of the enablers.”
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“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan
It's good to see someone who is straightforward, says what they believe, and can explain what they say ... run Fred run.
Hope to see you around here more often.
Spot on Senator Thompson. Spot on.
It needed to be said and you said it.
I hope and pray you run for President. You'd make a great one.
Of course you know the move it on to draft you.
An excellent grasp of the situation, Sir. I am so sorry to be living in a generation in which Orwell is proven a prophet, not just another sci-fi writer. As to the EU, the U.S. would do well indeed to move our European bases into former Soviet Union eastern-bloc satellites where we are more welcome.
This, of course, does not include former Soviet countries ending in "-stan."
J.M. Wilson, Jr.
CPO, USN (Ret)
Pearl City
Your insights on world affairs and here at home are just what this country needs. The Iranians have in effect neutered the Brits without firing a shot and hope they don't make the same mistake about us.
I hope and pray that you will run for POTUS, as I am a huge supporter.
Run Fred...Run!
I don't think we've seen the last of Iranian craziness. They NEED to maintain uncertainty in world oil markets, because they depend on oil being expensive. If everyone just igored them, oil prices would drop and they'd shrivel up and die like an unsqueezed pimple. It's important to recall that the Soviet state, a big oil exporter, finally shriveled up and died when oil prices were at historic lows.
(I'm holding a pint of ice-cold inspiration in my hands, so I can say that!)
"Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?" (Macaulay)
Can't wait for your announcement. RUN FRED, RUN!!!
Please stay out of the race as long as possible. At least until the real race starts. Let these other guys split their pants and then you can jump in and drive it all the way to the White House.
I have already started saving my money to give to your campaign and it ain't going anywhere or to anyone else.
It is just way to early to be running for President and you probably know this better than anyone else.
Thompson/Bush '08
Jeb Bush that is.
Fred Thompson.
Not to mention the fact that "The Hunt For Red October" was one great movie.
Well said. A "swift statement of sincere uneasiness" indeed.
How should a President respond to the UN Security Council's fecklessness on Iran and Darfur?
What advice would you give to a President who is unable to convince the members of the UN to honor its charter?
draftfredthompson.com has over 4,700 volunteers compiling past and current news, records, Youtube video's, Paul Harvey audio that Fred has performed and much more...Stop on by and get all this free in one place!
Run, Fred, RUN!!
"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and the sincerity of Hollywood." - Fred Thompson
Senator Thompson,
As you may know we are setting up a Draft Fred Thompson Rally in Cookeville, TN April 28 from 3:30 to 5:30. It's looking Good.
We sure would be honored if you could make a quick "hello".
No preasure, just give us a reason to chear.
Wishing you a blessed Easter,
Darrin J Kirkus
www.ThompsonRally.com
RUN, FRED, RUN!!! (I'm not sure who coined that 'campaign slogan', but it sure is catchy!)
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" ~Ronald Reagan
you have a higher calling.
Welcome to Redstate.
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Thou art the Great Cat, the avenger of the Gods, and the judge of words...-Inscription on the Royal Tombs at Thebes
Welcome to Redstate.....I look forward to your announcement that you are ready to lead this nation.
" in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years."
Abe Lincoln
Excellent. BTW, last Monday, our groupblog, thenewswalk.com, put in a Fred Thompson news ticker, "All Fred. All the Time."
It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas! :-D
Damn! I like the sound of that!
Excellent post Senator. I, like many here, think you are our strongest hope for '08..
otherwise it's (shudders)President H.R. Clinton.
Keep America Strong.
Vote Thompson in '08
"You never need a firearm,until you need it BADLY!"
I wasn't planning on voting in 2008, but if you run I'll be at the voting booth bright and early. Please run!
"I wasn't planning in voting in 2008"
In my opinion, that is why we have Speaker Pelosi today, and why
the results of the 2008 election could be worse, if we have Americans who feel that way.
We need a real conservative in the race. I have my checkbook and my time ready.
Thank you. You sound as though you have the clarity and strength of intellect to bring this country back from the edge.
My dream ticket is Fred and Rudy.
A guy can dream, can't he?
Great to have you here at RedState. I agree 100% with everything you said, it's good to know that you understand the world as it is and the dangers Americans face. I do hope you join the race for the presidency, America needs you!
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The CIA has better politicians than it has spies - Fred Thompson
How confidence-inspiring to conservatives it is to read your words so often in the last few weeks, Senator Thompson. This new-found public voice bodes well -- that you are still quite seriously considering a campaign for the White House.
Let me add just my small peep to the rising swell of hopeful hearts. Take up the reins. Unwind your flag.
"And my thrice-puissant liege is in the very May-morn of his youth, Ripe for exploits and mighty enterprises."
We need a champion like you. Lead on, O my chevalier!
I also nominate Abby Carmichael as Attorney General. Or Secretary of State. Defense would be a good position for her, too. Give her all three.
Almost too well said, leaving me dubitably marveling that these could be the personal reflections of a politician.
Our country and the world is embroiled in an intense and in some cases existential conflict over ideas. Our America needs an articulate and principled leader. You show our corporate comprehension with your words. You know your own character better than I. If you are determined that you can bear the cross of leadership in this vital time, I am inclined to think you will have my support.
John E.
Mr. Thompson, I am employed at a small New England liberal arts college. On our campus there are a fair number of conservatives (more than the liberals could ever imagine), we as a group would simply love to have you throw your hat into the ring. Your name has come up time and again whenever we have the opportunity to discuss the upcoming elections. Make this small group of conservatives happy - RUN!!!
We need you in the race so that a real Conservative will be running...
The Big Dog is always right...
I certainly do hope that if Fred Thompson does decide to officially run for President in '08 that he would seriously also consider asking Duncan Hunter to become his Vice President. Duncan Hunter is another conservative that many voters all over the U.S. can willingly support, and it would also seriously put the state of California into play with its highest number of electoral votes. Most of the other major '08 GOP Presidential candidates may also be able to do well in possible cabinet positions in a Fred Thompson administration, and it will also be very important for the GOP at every political level to truly come together as one decent political party after its painful defeat in November '06. A very successful Fred Thompson Presidential run in '08 will also create some very decent "political coattails" for all of the GOP candidates and for all of the conservative candidates at every political level. There are some questions that Fred Thompson still seriously needs to answer: 1.) Will Fred Thompson's "being out of politics for awhile" affect all of his future political judgements if he does become the next President of the U.S., and is Fred Thompson's entire political duration too short to be worthy of successfully running for President in either '08 or ever? 2.) Does Fred Thompson have enough political experience to truly become a very successful U.S. President should he win in '08 or ever? 3.) How does Fred Thompson answer all of his critics who say that Fred Thompson is just another "globalist politician" who, as President, will end up creating much more harm than good for the entire U.S. economy in both the short-term and the long-term? 4.) How strong is Fred Thompson's continuing friendship with Senator John McCain, who continues to often upset many conservatives on a variety of issues during his entire duration as U.S. Senator, and where does Fred Thompson disagree with Senator McCain on all of the issues? 5.) Will Fred Thompson's continuing friendship with Senator McCain affect his political judgements as the next President of the U.S.? 6.) Will Fred Thompson truly do all that he can do to get rid of Senator McCain's ongoing "campaign finance reform legislation" which completely takes away from free speech, bans soft money, and creates all of the ongoing problems with all of the "527" special interest groups? 7.) What does Fred Thompson say to all of his critics of the differences in age between Fred Thompson and his present wife, Jeri, and what would Jeri's function be in a Fred Thompson Presidential administration? 8.) Are there any past and/or present personal problems that could affect Fred Thompson's Presidential run as well as his judgements as President of the U.S.? 9.) Does Fred Thompson plan to, instead of running for President in '08, endorse Mitt Romney's Presidential run in '08 and then be rewarded by Mitt by being appointed to a cabinet position in a Romney administration should Mitt win the Presidency in '08? I'm sure that there will be many more questions to be asked by many others, but these are my questions that I wanted to ask Fred Thompson. Good luck, Fred Thompson, with whatever you end up deciding to do with your life, and I certainly do hope that you do decide to run for President of the U.S. in '08! I truly do believe that Fred Thompson would make a very decent President of the U.S.!
Thank you for posting here. It certainly is an honor to have a man of your stature present in the discussion. I do have a few points and questions to ask you and anyone else who wishes to respond.
I found this article in The Guardian today and it was one of the most thorough overviews I have found:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2051971,00.html
I encourage all to read it to try and get a sense of the issues at play over the past few weeks. I think we have to start with the premise that Britain and Iran are not at war with each other and have bilateral diplomatic relations. According to this article, the US offered to do whatever the Brits needed us to, to which the UK gratefully declined:
"The British declined the offer and said the US could calm the situation by staying out of it. London also asked the US to tone down military exercises that were already under way in the Gulf."
From the outset it appears Britain was trying to preempt an international military conflict, which I think we can all agree would not be in the US's, Britain's, or the UK's interests. The UK also asked President Bush and the Administration to tone down their rhetoric in an attempt to keep a third party from adding fuel to the fire. The incident was one involving Britain and Iran, and it seems both parties attempted to keep it that way (apart from the appeals to the UN and EU, which were really only meaningless pledges of support anyway).
Another point made in the article and one that I have come across many times through my amateur research of Iranian operations is that the Revolutionary Guard that captured the soldiers operate largely outside the sphere of influence of the elected Iranian government, especially Ahmadinejad. They officially report directly to the Supreme Leader, who is the leader of the state and far more powerful than the president. Often these rogue agents of Iran operate independently, and in this case the decision to take the British hostages was most likely a local decision by a RG commander and not part of a grander scheme initiated by the Iranian government. So Ahmadinejad's role in this incident was minimal at best, and likely only consisted of the PR campaign and release of the prisoners.
So looking at this incident from the PR perspective, Ahmadinejad clearly outperformed the West, but is this a reason to go to war? The release of the prisoners was negotiated between reasonably rational parties; however, the method of their release would have us believe otherwise. The British and Iranians realized the potential for conflict over the situation and determined it was in neither's interest to continue the standoff.
Also, in regards to your belief that the Iranian people are reasonable and desire a better relationship with the West, I would agree. However, I believe if we stranglehold the country, it will likely not have the desired effect. Ahmadinejad and his counterparts could spin the hardships inevitably felt by the commonfolk and blame the US. These charges could not be countered with our probable response of, "Well, change your government." Hurting the Iranian people in this way would not bring them closer to us; rather, it would further drive us away and push them toward the radical elements in their government. I do not purpose an alternative measure, but I believe your proposal is not the best course of action.
Thank you for your time and enjoy this Easter.
So it is just okay to seize other nation's vessel and personnel outside of your own waters? War or not, what the Iranians did was illegal and IMO, a clear act of war.
This is my favortie part-
"The British declined the offer and said the US could calm the situation by staying out of it. London also asked the US to tone down military exercises that were already under way in the Gulf."
In other words, leave us alone while we capitulate like fools.
God save the Queen, indeed!
Senator Thompson is right on the money here and we would all do well to heed his words.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan
"the Revolutionary Guard that captured the soldiers operate largely outside the sphere of influence of the elected Iranian government, especially Ahmadinejad."
Didn't Ahmadinejad award the Iranian Revolutionary Guard who captured the British sailors, didn't he give them some kind of award? If they are independent from Ahmadinejad, he evidently approves of their behavior.
"The release of the prisoners was negotiated between reasonably rational parties;"
If the Iranians were rational, a release would not have had to have been negotiated. First, the British sailors and marines were a mile and a half inside Iraqi waters. Second, let's say for the sake of argument that the Brits were in Iranian waters, would a 'reasonable' party or gov't had taken them hostage? Locked them up for 2 weeks in isolation, put out propaganda film featuring the captured soldiers?
If you believe Iran's current gov't is or mullahs are reasonable, you probably would have thought the same of 1938 Germany.
No, we can't. Please don't try to think for me, you don't seem quite capable of doing it for one person let alone ALL of us.
If the little dictator has no connection to the captors, pray tell, how was it they came to be under his control and available for release when he deemed it appropriate?
I actually think it IS in a best interests to get it started now, rather than later. It's coming, and if we hit hard, fast, and unexpectedly, we gain the upper hand. Now, granted, after this fiasco with the Brits, if we do finally get it started, it will be unexpected. Of course, now it will cost more in dead western soldiers, but hey, that's no skin off your nose right? All of that of course assumes we act before they get to hold all of Europe hostage in their homes, but that won't be any skin off your nose either will it?
Iran is the primary source of the problems in the Middle East. Take it out and you take out most of the problems. Yes, I'd prefer a cover op supporting an internal insurrection, but a straight up whomping by our military would work for me too.
Thank you and welcome to the neighborhood.
That just may be more genuine wisdom packed into less than 800 words than the sum total of all American political discourse outside of the current Administration** since September 11, 2001. Whatever the future holds for you, please continue the discussion on your level. I like your style.
Content, timing, bang-for-the-buck…this was a brilliant move also. Touché
** Someday historians will read the actual text of the big Bush speeches and find that wisdom there. But…that’s a discussion for later days.
I, too, am a Guiliani supporter. However, I would probably be one to jump ship if you run. We need you.
Steve Willis
Professor of Law
University of Florida College of Law
I am happy to see through your post that you recognize how impotent the "letter" agencies are and if you choose to run you will have my support and should you win it all I would hope knowing what you know about the U.N. that you would stop sending mine and everyone else's money to support the "one world" agency. I cannot begin to express how much it would mean that we stop supporting their hate of us. The British are going to have to learn who their true friends are on their own and I think liberalism is killing them and if we are not careful it will do the same to us. Thank you again for recognizing what most conservatives and thinking people already know which is that the U.N. is a failure and when a business fails it must go out of business.
Peace through superior fire power:)
Senator Thompson:
It is invigorating for many of us to hear a high profile person say what we are all thinking. I'm glad you aren't afraid to say what you really think. People will respond to strength and leadership. I very much hope you decide to enter the race. In recent years we've had to make do with the candidate we got. And because people like me love our country we still donated the money and showed up to vote.
Should you decide to run I think you will see an outpouring of support unlike the GOP has seen. I've received the RNC letters asking for money. I used to give but I haven't done so, yet. If you run, I will be giving more than I ever have. And I suspect many others will be doing the same. You "get" it and we "get" it
It is no coincidence that the other candidates and stumbling. And it's no coincidence that you are here now. You are the right man for the job and you country needs you now.
Please run for the Presidency of the United States.
Very best wishes,
Jim
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Gotta support the team.
- David Puddy
Mr. Thompson, PLEASE, PLEASE run for President. We need a true conservative leader and one who will not back down from a fight. Please take the mantle from President Reagan and bring back conservatism to the forefront of American politics.
if you run, Senator. I have to say, when hearing the rumors that you might run for president a few months ago, I let out an enthusiastic "YES!" in the car. I would actually be excited about the 2008 campaign.
With the current group running for the good guys side(GOP) in 08, I am afraid it will be a repeat of 06. No real motivation to go out and vote.
Voting against Hillary or some other liberal clown just won't be enough motivation for the Republicans to win. We need someone to vote for.
In 2004, most of John Kerry's votes weren't votes for John Kerry, they were votes against George Bush, and it wasn't enough for them to win.
(I just put it that way so that when you win the Presidency and everyone is calling you "Mr. President", I can say that early on my direct advice was, "Dude, we really need you to run", and people will say, "You didn't really call the future President,"Dude" did you?"
Please Sir, this is your moment in history.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
For your reasoned and incisive article.
Wishing you the best in your (hopefully anticipated) upcoming run!
Run, Mr. Thompson, Run!
Mr. Thompson,
You are a blessed man. Many Americans don't realize the wonderous gift they've received by virtue of being born in this majestic country that was bought and paid for with the blood of America's fighting men.
I've served in the Air Force. My oldest is in college on an ROTC scholorship. My family knows we have a responsibility to stand for our country. You have the same responsibility.
Do your duty.
It's obvious he's better looking and has better hair than you. He's also considering qualified candidates for his VP slot. You'd like working with him.
And we're very interested to find out where you stand on all of the issues as well as how willing you will be to stand up to the Democrats. VP Cheney to Sen. Leahy comes to mind immediately.
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
Your insight is welcome. I hope that you decide to make a run for the Presidency, the US needs clear thought like yours.
Thanks,
The Hobo
The other day I got to tell my son that the British hostages had been freed and then I asked him if he had been involved as he is in Army intelligence, stationed along the Iraq-Iran border. He assured me that his unit had not done anything, just their mere presence was threat enough. He is in the massive and well armed 3rd Infantry Division.
Iran released the US hostages in 1981 when they felt threatened by Reagan. They are still intimidated by the awesome power of the United States military and are not willing to pick a real fight with us...yet. Be assured, the political leaders in Iran do think they know the outcome of the global war on terror. And they are working to help Allah in his fight against the West. We must be careful because one day they will be able to take more devastating action.
We will only prevail if our resolve to win remains and our leadership understands the true intent of the enemy. To that end, Mr. Thompson, please run and win.
Soldier's Mom - Golfer's Wife - Home alone a lot
Yeah, back in 1981, Iranians were so scared of the whupp@ss that Reagan was about to unleash that they released the hostages only about then minutes into the Reagan era. They knew he was coming, of course, but I suspect they held out hope that there'd be a glitch in democracy and somehow that human veal, Jimmy Carter, would find a way to hold on. It was only after their hopes were dashed that they gave into the man who would restore American greatness.
tarkus2
What is unique about Mr. Thompson compared to the declared candidates for POTUS is that he sees a pattern of behavior in the Iranian leadership going back decades instead of acting as though each new outrage stands on its own. Most American voters and their leaders have a poor sense of history and even current events during their own lifetimes, acting as though they were "born yesterday" and therefore truly gullible.
For example, Nancy Pelosi acts as though she has total amnesia for the role of Syria's president in prolonging the Iraqi War and destabilizing Lebanon through terrorism in both cases costing numerous lives. This is a kind of self-inflicted brain damage that many on the left suffer. It is eternally Day 1 of their Brave New World.
It appears as though Mr. Thompson would have a near-monopoly on the common sense approach to all major issues as the present candidates including Republicans are crowded into the left of centre field where they believe a majority of their fellow citizens now reside (they may be correct in their assessment if the latest Pew poll is to be believed). It is possible for a true leader, as opposed to poll taker to move about a third of the electorate, who are not committed socialist ideologues to his views instead of pandering to theirs if his views are clearly stated and make sense.
So far, Mr. Thompson appears to have this ability, to verbalize a common sense position simply yet eloquently. This is reminiscent of the Great Communicator's, President Reagan's talent. It actually requires much more wit to express complex ideas tersely than it is to maunder on and on stringing together cliches (Hello Obama).
I would be very encouraged if Mr. Thompson runs. The age, the wife, the acting career are inconsequential compared to his ability to analyze events and see patterns that he can make others see as well.
The world needs a leader smart enough to understand our ongoing crisis, honest enough to tell it straight, and resolute enough to face it! Go Fred go!
I'm always one who views event in the ME through a prism of possibilities and realities. The reality is there is precious little organized transfer of power that goes on outside the kingdom states in the region. Therefore the USA finds herself active only when there is an impending leadership vacuum. I'm one of those that thinks the USA allowed the Iranians to go fundamentalist back in the late 70's as a punishment to the Sunnis for using oil to punish the USA for Israel's stunning battlefield victories in 68 and 72. Then the USA empowered Saddam to punish the Iranians and now it's the Iranian's turn to scare witless the Sunnis who are being punished for allowing their sons to carry out 9-11.
Because these particular humans still operate in the family/tribal realm of justice, there's ample opportunity to pit one faction against another. This sort of conflict has played out several times over the history and evolution of man. Because of their historically inferior strategic position, underdeveloped (read irrational) civilizations ruled by men, not laws, should never be allowed to possess a nuclear production capabilities.
Dear Senator Thompson:
No doubt you are probably not reading this blog anymore, busy with career and family. But for the hopeful who are I will say that as a Democrat I think your candidacy would be a good thing for this country. Clearly conservative leaning people would be glad to have someone who they can be enthusiastic about, and I understand why: a cogent post. I am sure Romney and Rudy will take notice. I agree with you primarily on this point: "He has shown the world that his forces can kidnap British citizens, subject them to brutal psychological tactics to coerce phony confessions, finagle the release of a high-ranking Iranian terror coordinator in Iraq, utterly trash the Geneva conventions and suffer absolutely no consequences." There ought to, at the very least, a basic respect for human rights. I remember when the wall came down. The momentum across Europe. Havel has me convinced that it happened because the U.S. offered the world something better. I wish the Iranian's alleged treatment of the British was not so reminiscent of our alleged treatment of the detainees in Gitmo. It makes the job of appealing to the better angels of mens' nature that much more difficult. It will make the next cold war that much more difficult to win.
Regards,
JCS
"I wish the Iranian's alleged treatment of the British was not so reminiscent of our alleged treatment of the detainees in Gitmo. It makes the job of appealing to the better angels of mens' nature that much more difficult. It will make the next cold war that much more difficult to win."
Ahh, the oozing liberal equivalence. There's no right, no wrong, no difference between the US and -----. When the Isolationist Right used to argue that about Hitler in the mid and late 1930's, they were rightly ridiculed. My only question is why does the left get away with that crap today?
"...and each wasted evening is
a gross violation against the
natural course of your only life;"
-Charles Buckowski
Oops. I left out the why. They shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear production capabilities because the existing power structure in the world (the west) is obviously viewed as the number one impediment to realizing their dream of justice. Ahmadi-nejad states it all the time, the need for justice. See Castro's revolution for examples of how the underclass is always waiting with the threat of appropriation and murder to bring about justice. Do not underestimate the potency of this sort of threat but also be mindful the USA is calibrating the pain and insecurity over there and has been for some time. And I for one am quite thankful. Unless we are ready to mow over a few million acres of old growth forest in Brazil to grow ethanol and build nuke plants with little or no red tape we have to do what we are doing. There is hope. Look at the folks in places like Dubai. have they lost a lot their crazy religious zeal? I wonder if having tons of material stuff has anything to do with tempering their outlook.
Mr. Thompson,
I am glad you are here - and I hope your foray leads you to choose to run for President. And you have my vote and donation here in VA, and several others I know here would vote for you in a heartbeat as well.
I wish more understood Iran the way you have explained it - as going back near 30 years, no one has called them to the carpet for their misdeeds. And I trust that as the 44th President, you would do so, once and for all.
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Say if ever thou didst find a woman with a constant mind
Quote: He has shown the world that his forces can kidnap British citizens, subject them to brutal psychological tactics to coerce phony confessions, finagle the release of a high-ranking Iranian terror coordinator in Iraq, utterly trash the Geneva conventions and suffer absolutely no consequences. End Quote.
Funnily enough, if you replace all references to Iran with United States of America, it makes exactly the same sense. After all, isn't this what Guantanamo is all about?
Got that right of the fax, huh? It is probably wasted keystrokes to point out the difference between uniformed soldiers and sailors in flagged vessels and ununiformed and irregular terrorists and guerillas.
In Vino Veritas
Oh, you mean ununiformed civilians who have been imprisoned for five years in isolation with no access to legal council and with absolutely no proof whatsoever that they have anything to do with terrorism? You mean citizens kidnapped outside of Afghanistan and Iraq and flown for rendition to countries where torture is allowed to extract 'confessions' from them and then incarcerated in Guantanamo in contravention of the Geneva Convention? The rules are there for all, whether uniformed or not. You can't have it one way and deny the same rights for others.
But what specific rules, civil law, criminal law, peacetime, war time, uniformed representing a nation, not uniformed & extra national, get a grip on yourself. Save your message for the Supreme Court and check their most recent ruling on the subject.
They must have missed your interpretation of the Geneva Convention.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
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“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan
you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
In order to engage in an intellectual debate regarding the "Military Commissions Act of 2006" (Public Law 109-366--Oct. 17, 2006), you should actually read the complete text of the legislation.
Democrat/LeftistTalkingPoints™ are never considered as a credible source, because they tend to be completely devoid of facts.
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“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan
As a liberal, I have to urgently plead with Mr. Thompson to remain in his current Hollywood occupation, providing a fine characterization on Law and Order, one of my favorite programs.
Why? Because I have been counting on getting even more entertainment out of watching the vicious, three-way race shape up between Giuliani, Romney and McCain.
If you run for President, I fear that a lot of my fun will be taken out of watching the Republican party implode on itself in a paroxym of partisan infighting, but I'll also be left without one of my favorite L&O characters!
So please, Mr. Thompson -- think of the needs of blue states, as well as the large amount of money I have riding on the primary outcomes, and don't run!
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Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute.
But set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute.
But set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
when right out of the gate someone says "as a liberal" ...I know better, that the words that follow will be jibberish, non thought provoking crap........that said...a blessed Easter to you and your parents.
" in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years."
Abe Lincoln
...of my satirical post didn't come through?
The notion that, unless a clear leader emerges in this race who can unite the Conservative and Libertarian wings, that the Republican primaries are going to be a bloody, infighting mess -- or the notion that I've got money riding on it?
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Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute.
But set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
cage match for the same reasons.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute.
But set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Excellent entrée into the blogosphere, sir.
We at ModernConservative recognize that there are advantages to staying out of the race for a while longer. However, we also see one potential serious disadvantage:
Major players have been endorsing and committing their support to other candidates. If this process continues, a sense of loyalty will make it difficult for many of said players to change those endorsements. . . even though, secretly, they would have preferred to endorse you.
Thus, in our humble opinion, it might be better to get in soon!
Cheers,
Christopher
ModernConservative.com
He's a Conservative. He's in favor of doing what's right--even if it's difficult. He understands the world we live in. He understands America. And he's not afraid to let us know!!
I would love to put a "Thompson/Hunter 08" bumper sticker on my car, a sign in my front yard, and help out the campaign in any other way I can...
Senator Thompson,
It's great to see you posting here and, regardless of whether you decide to run for President, I hope you continue to speak out on issues. Your defense of the legislation to stop nuisance civil lawsuits against citizens who report suspicious crime (the 6 flying Imam case) and your defense of free speech and reference to Oriana Fallaci's case in Europe (on the Paul Harvey radio show) was greatly appreciated.
Best of Luck.
Thank you Mr. Thompson. Thank you for your clear, concise and true words. It was refreshing to read: The Pirates of Tehran.
- The Iranian government (the Mullahs!) must not be allowed to continue down this path, for they will continue to manipulate and humiliate their critics within, their neighbors, and, of course, the West! Their boldness will grow uncontrollably, only contained by the tools they acquire or have at their disposal - nuclear weapons in Iran's hands would give Tehran ultimate destructive power, thus NEGOTIATING POWER.
- The fact that there are Western politicians and media outlets that would endanger the entire global population in order to achieve their political aims is both criminal and scary. We need the facts and the news, not distortions and fairy tails...so again, I say thank you for the straight talk Mr. Thompson.
- And finally, America must not abandon those that have, are or will stand by Her, for if She/We do, no one (country or people) will be able to trust Her/Our word again. Result? America will not be able to do what the rest of the world need America to do - LEAD!
The Bell Tolls...for us all.
Sincerely,
RPaine
Senator Thompson: ARE YOU GOING TO RESCUE CONSERVATIVES BY DECLARING YOUR CANDIDACY?
Happy Easter, for He is Risen!
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With malice towards none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see right.
because if you don't I won't get the chance to see you destroy Hillary in debate, or ask Obama why he ties his daring to hope to the federal government, as well as question him on his full voting record, back home as well as in Washington.
Be advised, as if you need it, that the media will always & incessantly refer to you as an actor, as the NY Times has already done. But you strike me as the sort of man who can shrug off the pettiness of the left and their fixation on unlimited and unfettered government.
Go for it !
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
Winston Churchill spent many years in the political wilderness and was one of the few who tried to warn the British people about the oncoming fight with Hitler. No one listened then and no one seems to be listening now. For all his efforts, President Bush is losing credibility on the subject and isn't in a position to tackle another fight in the region. Pelosi has started acting like Neville Chamberlain and is showing the American voter exactly how stupid the Democrats are on this issue. Mr Thompson, hopefully your short stay in the political wilderness is all that is required. Keep up the pressure on this dangerous regime and run for President. A figure of Churchill's stature is required now and I hope that you fit the bill.
K Sinclair
http://unclemeat.wordpress.com/
Rudy who?
Absolutely Reaganesque... please do this great country a tremendous favor and run.
Again, wow.
I've been chastised and berated over my comments about the conduct of the British POW's, I could never have eloquently stated my feeling as well as you did Mr.Thompson.
I do not blindly put my vote behind any candidate from either party, but I must say, I am very hopeful that you will put your hat in the ring, and come to the aide of our country.
I like what I am hearing from your camp, I am worried for our nation and the world, this is a time great leaders shine and piss poor ones fail. Be the man Mr. Thompson.
Welcome aboard Senator. I'll vote for you, Rudy or Newt (or any combo of that). I can't get myself to get excited for all of the wusses that have taken guano off those democrats. Please, show 'em some 'nads.
"Don't go wobbly on us"
"Don't forgot what we did"...Ozzie Guillen
As a Canadian and a frequent guest in your country, I have noticed your political career with great admiration. My only regret is a)I can't vote and b)I wish I'd be able to help.
Regardless: Fred Thompson '08 may all the success be yours!
Fly down to northern Mexico. Sneak across the southern border. Find a Democrat "immigrant rights" organization, they will know how to register you.
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
but if you ran, Senator Thompson, I think I'd volunteer for yours. Heck, I'd even drive up to NH and be on-site for the first primary!
This column/blog is one of the many of yours that I've agreed with almost completely, over the past several months.
Run, Fred, run!
I happen to be a guy who doesn’t get up every morning hating my country. Roger Ailes
De Opresso Liber
Good to see you participate on this site. We are honored.
Will you entertain a question - maybe two? I am asking because of the power of your own statements and what I perceive (correctly, I hope) to motivate them.
This is hypothetical:
1) Assuming you were president of the United States this past month, what actions would you have counselled Tony Blair to take after learning several of his military personnel were kidnjapped from a naval vessel in international waters?
2) Will you comment upon what appears to be the democrats' less-than-subtle attempts to organize and operate a form of 'shadow government' in opposition to theis Administration?
Difficult questions, I know; and perhaps not exactly fair in the current political environment. However, too bad for you that I am of an age that I can remember a young Tennessee lawyer standing nose-to-nose with the democratic critters during the Watergate inquisition.
I wonder how he'd answer these questions.
With Respect,
GEB
Run Fred! We got your back when ya do! We are just waiting now!
A Conservative in Oregon
Where do I send the money for Fred Thompson's run?????
Run Fred Run! Please save our party and our country. The fact you would take your time to come on here and post, and at that, say what so many of us are thinking, shows that you are exactly what we need at this time in our country's history. Thank you!
As has been said before, run Mr. Thompson, run. Many of us have been very unhappy with the current Republican candidates for 2008 and the possibility of your running gives us hope for the first time in a long, long time. I feel you will fight for our values and what is right, not lay down and let the Dems run all over the government causing mayhem and damage to our national security.
Man up. Post this as a blog. We'd be happy to share our opinions of the content and of the author.
"...and each wasted evening is
a gross violation against the
natural course of your only life;"
-Charles Buckowski
TraderGer
Mr. Thompson, it appears that there are probably millions of folks out there who agree with you.
Please don't let us down by demuring this year. With the exception of your stand on campaign finance reform, you seem to be just the ticket for us this year!
Run, Fred, Run!!!!
Good post regarding Tehran. I like your thinking. I believe Tony Blair could have used your counsel during this crisis instead of the spineless advice he received from his closest associates and his European "Union" friends.
Hope to see you soon in the campaign for President. I just thought you were a conservative actor (oxymoron?) but then I had the opportunity to read that acting came later in your career, almost by accident. You have an impressive resume of public service.
President Bush began his tenure with resolve and stood up for what he believed, regardless of the political consequences. Lately, it seems, he's lost his way and is confused as to what he should stand for. I long for the days when he knew right from wrong and stood up for his beliefs. His silence when attacked by the liberals is baffling to say the least.
He acts as if Biblical prophecy foretold he would stand silent before his accusers. I hate to tell him this, but that prophecy has been fulfilled by Jesus.
A thoughtful essay, to be sure. I have a couple of questions which can be answered by anyone who so chooses...
And why shouldn't he be? He has shown the world that his forces can kidnap British citizens, subject them to brutal psychological tactics to coerce phony confessions, finagle the release of a high-ranking Iranian terror coordinator in Iraq, utterly trash the Geneva conventions and suffer absolutely no consequences.
What were the brutal psychological tactics that were employed?
We need to understand this and use every means at our disposal, starting with serious and painful international sanctions, to prevent Iran's rulers from becoming the nuclear-armed blackmailers they want to be. Unfortunately, we are hearing demands that we abandon the people of the Middle East who have stood up to Islamo-fascism because they believed us when we said we would support them.
What form of sanctions do you suggest the United States implement? Aren't we already in a state of a complete trade embargo with Iran? What other sanctions can we do? Certainly other nations could impose stiffer sanctions but I am not sure the US can do much else.
I fully agree that no one should view Ahmadinejad favorably because of this crisis. It was an intentional act designed to build Iranian influence in the region at the expense of a mostly departing English force. From a purely political view I can respect their maneuver, as it was a clear win for them. However it was also reckless and could have led to far worse results for all parties.
I fully support regime change in Iran and I think the United States should do whatever it can to help INTERNAL Iranian forces to carry out a coup. If there are greater sanctions available to us I would likely support that as well.
Thank you again, Mr. Thompson, for the contribution. Although I am not likely to vote Republican in 2008 I encourage you to run for President because I would prefer better choices be available.
There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why ... I dream of things that never were and ask why not. - Robert Kennedy
While I like you more than some of my fellow editors, even I have to jump on you for the absolutely, pathetically asinine comment you just made. To wit, "What were the brutal psychological tactics that were employed?"
Flyer, seriously? While I think that the majority of the sailors and Marines acquitted themselves absolutely pathetically and devoid of any honor whatsoever, you surely must be able to open your eyes just enough to see how absolutely inane that question was. Read this again please:
The 15 British naval personnel held by
Iran...were stripped, blindfolded and handcuffed as part of "psychological" intimidation during their detention. ...they feared for their lives if they resisted and that they were threatened with seven years in jail if they did not confess to being in Iranian waters.
Now please do explain to me how that is not a case of "brutal psychological tactics" -- but how simply making a detained child-killing terrorist at Guantanamo Bay stand up for a few hours is "torture"?
And while you're at it, I wouldn't mind an explanation of why, in seeking to quiz a GOPer about the details of a statement, the first thing that pops into your mind to do is to, in essence, defend the leader of a terrorist-sponsoring state who has very vocally called for the destruction of Israel and America, over and over? The knee-jerk defense of despotic governments on the part of the left never ceases to amaze me.
Now please do explain to me how that is not a case of "brutal psychological tactics" -- but how simply making a detained child-killing terrorist at Guantanamo Bay stand up for a few hours is "torture"?
My point is not to defend Ahmadinejad or the Iranian government. My point is that many here have defended these sorts of actions by us. Do you think we can reasonably condemn Iran for various psychological tactics when have already said that things such as waterboarding is acceptable?
And to be clear I am not suggesting that Mr. Thompson has a stated position on this matter. It was an open question to anyone.
And before you guys twist my comments into an anti-American rant, let me be clear. I am NOT condemning American actions or defending Iranian actions. I AM pointing out that if we choose to implement harsh psychological interrogations tactics, we can't really condemn others for doing the same thing.
It amazes me how you guys think that anything short of absolute condemnation equates to defending someone. I guess when I said that I do NOT support him and that I DO support regime change, you inferred some secret support of Ahmadinejad.
There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why ... I dream of things that never were and ask why not. - Robert Kennedy
Since when have our prisoners been afraid for their lives on the occasion of not cooperating? Admitting that they have murdered women and children and other noncombatants in terrorist acts is signing a death warrant. Denying it at least buys them a few more weeks or months of comfortable living at Gitmo.
Since when do we threaten them with imprisonment if they dont cooperate? They stay imprisoned when and if we can prove they are who we think they are.
Since when do we demand their families' home addresses (implicitly threatening their families' lives) and force them to write home saying how evil they were just so we can publish their letters in our media?
Since when do we make all these threats in order to force them to make appearances on national TV decrying their actions?
More importantly, since when are any of these actions sanctioned y our government and not punished to the full extent of the law in those rare occasions that some interrogator starts thinking the law doesn't apply to him?
Since when, flyerhawk? And please, provide your sources.
There are those who look on Dresden and Tokyo and Hiroshima as some of the greatest evils ever perpetrated by man. I look on them and thank the perpetrators for saving millions.
"From a purely political view I can respect their maneuver, as it was a clear win for them."
As in:
"Godfather, I respect your business acumen in creating your empire. That violence, terror and intimidation is SO effective. Thank you for not whacking me. Where do I pay?"
Huh, Flyer?
Anything else you would like to project into my comments?
No matter how much I qualify my comments you guys will just discard those qualifiers and make all sorts of bizarre assumptions.
There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why ... I dream of things that never were and ask why not. - Robert Kennedy
PLEASE. AMERICA NEEDS YOU.
And of course... welcome to RedState. Your well though-out post exemplifies the vision of a real conservative in the spririt of Reagan. The Republican Party is starving for such a leader. (Sorry, but your friend John McCain just doesn't cut it).
I will personally donate my time and money to a Thompson campaign.
Having partially vented my excitement over the prospect of a White House campaign by Senator Thompson, I wanted to raise an Iran military-strategic consideration for input from those with a flair for such things.
The Nimitz carrier group deployed last week from San Diego, ostensibly to relieve the Eisenhower and to join the John Stennis Strike Group in the Persian Gulf. (This may have warmed the heart of Ahmadinejad somewhat toward his final "beneficence" in releasing the British hostages.) When it arrives, there will be in place three carriers with associated suppport.
My own (probably somewhat simplistic) view of this state of events makes me ponder the possibily that the Eisenhower's departure for home port might reasonably be made intentionally sluggish -- toward the end of having in place an increased ability for naval blockade (not to mention firepower).
Realizing the potential for sending a mixed message about immediate U.S. tactical intentions in the region, one wonders about the effects such a heightened (at least for a limited time) presence would cause ... and whether there might not be some advantage to be gained thereby.
Yes, the placement of the carrier groups is a signal to Ahmadinejad, but if you look up a little higher (post 155) you will see that the Army, and I mean the big bad - battle hardened - ARMY 3RD ID, is now peeking over the border. We are not sending mixed messages - the messages is clear:
CUT IT OUT!!!!!
Ahmadinejad is a student of history and if he checks out this date (4/9) in 2003, he will see the statue of Sadaam in Baghdad being taken down. Which US military unit was that helping the civilians? - yup, 3rd ID. And now they are baaaack.
The surge is not just working to calm down Baghdad, it is telling the whole region, we are not ready to go, we have a mission to complete.
Soldier's Mom - Golfer's Wife - Home alone a lot
I could've just as easily named myself "OCDad". Great to have you on RedState. I can be reached at neodanite@yahoo.com if ever you need anything.
all I can say is if you run it'll almost be like I was pulling the lever one more time for the Gipper!
Clear, concise language that will cut through the fog of the MSM misinformation to illuminate the way forward. Yes!
Run, Fred, Run!
pirates of Teheran. Maybe, just maybe, the expression will remind folks that the struggle against this kind of foe did not start and will not end with President Bush. At the beginning of this nation we had Barbary Coast pirates who captured Americans from merchant ships. The US marines knew how to deal with the pirates, and it had nothing to do with appeasement and bribery. This current hostage taking reminds me of the Barbary Coast pirates. I only hope there are enough men left in the USA who know how to stand up and fight for liberty.
You’re a persistent cuss, pilgrim.
John Wayne to Jimmy Stewart in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
you got to the part about the "freedom loving" Iranian people as if there is an absolute need to separate the Islamic leadership from the Islamic citizens of Iran. Please be careful doing that sir. I fear that the next part the of the rationalization process for a military response to Iran will be to couple with a reminder about how Islam is such a "...religion of peace, hijacked by fanatics and extremists". These type phrases were used by GWB pre Iraq invasion circa 2002-03, as part of a justification for the implementaion of the "democracy project" of Iraq. Should a plan to address the nuclear threat poised by Iran join with yet another "democracy project"?
Pointing to the "freedom loving" Iranian people in this context worries me. Yes, Iranians may love freedom- but they love their religion more.
I beg of you sir, please do look a little more at the history of Islam and of Iran AND its poeple before considering whether another "democracy project" should be part of the Iranian solution. There will, no doubt, be a need for some strong military solution. Ahmedinejad has already stated that if an atomic bomb could be used against Isreal he would further accept a nucleur retaliatory strike against his country as an acceptable outcome. A plan of deterence, therefore, is not an option.
Iran is known as the "Islamic Republic of Iran" (emphasis on "Islamic") for a reason. I've read your review of the book Infidel at the AEI website. You should know, therefore, of the inner conflict and chaos that results when a muslim strives to embrace freedom/democracy and Islam simutaneously. I submit that this inherent conflict, the one that makes democracy and Islam incompatible, is a reason why the democracy project will never work in Iraq, and why it must never be attempted again.
You should also know from that book, which you review quite favorably, that it is time for the world to start questioning whether what our president told us many years ago about Islam being "religion of peace" was/is true.
I am delighted to see that you are willing take on the issue of Iran so forcefully; but I am more delighted to see the use of the word "Islamofacism" ascribed to the actions of the Iranians.
the unchecked spiritual branch of the government and opened the remaining structure of the republic to participation without approval by the Guardian Council, it could work. Religion seems to be the only thing keeping the idea of a Supreme Leader any less odious than a Shah.
Well, at least the take-away from this position is that we can bring the American soldiers home right now, since the democracy project in Iraq is useless!
This is a nicely dressed-up version of an opinion one sees often on blogs such as LGF or Freep, and I've long suspected that it's the true opinion of the Republican right -- to heck with any possible civic option, let's just embrace the clash of civilizations and bring back the Crusades. Total war, total destruction, or nothing.
The logical result of which, of course, is that one billion plus people must be subjugated or destroyed. To which, of course again, it will be replied that "they already expect *us* to surrender" -- the 'djimmitude' attitude that is often repeated around here.
To reply directly to your point, sir, I will simply point out that you are flatly wrong in your characterization of the Iranian people. I might suggest perusing such books as "Reading Lolita in Tehran" or the graphic novel "Persepolis", among numerous others, as a truer indicator of the feelings of the Iranian *people*. Iran in particular, and most of the Middle East in general, has had a thriving humanist tradition that you would do well to become acquainted with.
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Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute.
But set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
I can't wait to hear why I should let a personal insult of this magnitude slide. Being one of those conservatives who apparently hunger for the Crusades and all.
Presuming that you manage to do so - a sincere apology would be an excellent start, and indeed, strategy - free hint: you don't get to lecture me or anyone else here on our morality. You are not good because you are against the war; you may be good despite being against it.
Moe
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
Run, Fred, RUN! Get into the race!
"Reason, cold, calculating, unimpassioned reason, must furnish all the materials for our future support and defence." - Abraham Lincoln
Fred Thompson is what I am looking for. A conservative Republican who gets it on the GWOT (with apologies to the defeat-owning Dems who have censored that label) and can rake in both Dem and independent votes. Most importantly, he understands who and what the true enemy is.
Thank you, Mr. Thompson, for very cogent and rational words.
You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.
Sen. Thompson is spot-on in his piece about Iran. It is tragic to see our cousins across the pond losing their proverbial stiff upper lips and slowly devolving into the utterly weak posture of the (continental) EU nations.
Thompson has a lot going for him but, personally, I feel he must address his unwavering support of McCain-Feingold and his staunch opposition (a la fellow trial attorney John Edwards) of tort reform.
From a tactical point of view - doesn't a Thompson as GOP nominee turn this into a typical red-state / blue-state and north v. south general election that we have seen over the past several cycles with razor-thin electoral victories? Unlike a Giuliani, he gives us no shot at playing on the Dems' turf. And, given the GOP's implosion in formerly reliable red state Ohio, and the genealized downturn nationwide for the GOP, wouldn't such a match-up make it very hard to get to 270?
I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. -Reagan
Please enter the race for the Republican nomination for President of the United States. I would be honored to support you. You seem to understand, as did Thomas Jefferson and Theodore Roosevelt, that piracy on the high seas or on land is unacceptable. In this day and age, that is a remarkable understanding of the intent of international law which others seem to believe means, "Don't offend anyone for any reason!"
I, for one, am tired of people telling me that we can't or shouldn't do anything or say anything that would indicate that we are independent or uncaring of what the world thinks of us. The sole criteria for American action should be is it the right thing to do for the security of America and of our allies. Yielding to pirates is never the right thing to do.
"Perdicaris alive, or Rasuli dead!" - Theodore Roosevelt, 1904
Sir, the country truly needs a man such as yourself to be President. Men of your caliber are far and few between. It would be an honor to vote for you for President. Please throw your hat in the ring. Don't worry about the money you would need. It's just as you told Mr. Cavuto today, it will be there as needed. I know you will do the right thing. God bless you, and the best of luck in the future.
Marty J.
I've been Pro-Thompson for some time.
If anything he reminds me more of President Ford, and not just because of the forehead ;) Ok so a Ford with a sprinkle of Reagan, not much but enough so it will catch people's attention so he can show them the man / leader / statesman he is.
What is needed today is a President to crosses party lines and goes towards the American people and not to their particular party. A person that is a leader on the world stage. A person that will remind Americans they live in the greatest country on Earth and to build upon what they are given and not act as spoiled children discontent with what they've got and shame those who came before them. It is a big request, too large infact. But Fred can take those first difficult 'Gerald Ford' like steps that will hopefully and eventually lead to another great President that will make America soar. Lead the world by its grace and example and not fall prey to its dispair. By works the world shall know us.
The problems we pretend to have with Iran are a direct result of poorly thought out U.S. policy. CIA run death squads terrorized Iran for 25 years after they overthrew the democraticly elected Mozidek. We killed countless innocent Iranians and they hate us, so killing even more will solve the problem? I just listened to Fred Thompson on the Levin show and he truly wants war with Iran. Why would this kind of person be leading in the polls?
Learn about our real history with Iran and the like so you are not confused when Ron Paul talks about "blowback"
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The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
You just may force me to abandon Giuliani!
No one in the West seems to have the courage to stand up to Iran. We can't be a nation that is so weak that we don't even have the stomach to handle higher gas prices as a result of sanctions against Iran.
I like what I'm hearing from you and I hope you do enter the Republican primary.
"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich. "
William F. Buckley, Jr.