BREAKING: 114-23, House GOP Rejects Senate Amnesty Bill

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In a just concluded House GOP Conference voted 114 to 23 to reject the Senate's Amnesty Bill.

Pelosi has now signaled that the House will start fresh on the Amnesty Bill and will not just embrace the Senate version.

It looks like, in fact, the House will . . . dare we say it . . . have committee hearings on the bill.


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I am not reassured, but it is good news. The last immigration bill had the adults in the house. Maybe there is hope there again, though I must confess the 23 house Republicans who votes the other way make a person roll their eyes.

I wonder who they were?

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The ones on Graham and McCain's Christmas card list.

My guess is a mix of northeast moderates and a few down south like the cuban american rep from florida, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. I think she is liberal on this issue. I think both R's and D's will be much tougher than the senate though. The conbination of elections every six years and the much larger amounts of money those current senators have and how much is needed for statewide races versus a small district, make the house members much more in tune with the people of their districts. I think both parties in the house listen much more. The senators, with a few exceptions, all think they walk on water.

But Erick, NOW is the time to get mad at those "sell-outs!" Why are you looking ahead?!?!?!?!?!?!!! Today's Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S.1639 was IT, the end-all and be-all, on the immigration bill. Don't you KNOW?

Run like Reagan!

I will call Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Levin, Beck, Malkin, et al and tell them "there is nothing to see here". Thanks for setting us all straight :)

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The House vote essentially says to the senate that thier back-room deal of AMNESTY will not be given any consideration (not that it deserves any) in the House.

By taking this vote now - the adults in the House have warned the spoiled children of the senate that there will be consequences to thier foolish actions. I don't know how many of the idiot the senators will heed that warning and vote NO on the next cloture, but I suspect that some will. Most US senators are loathesome creatures with a hyper developed sense of self worth and the drive to ensure thier own survival (because they are so vital).

The House vote may shock a few into realizing they will be eviscerated during the next primary season for absolutely nothing. Let's call it an intervention.

Too late.

It's a strong vote until you remember that we don't have the majority anymore, and losing 23 Rs means we'll probably have to pick up 40 Ds to defeat the thing...

I still think the best hope is in the Senate.

Run like Reagan!

Then the trunks could run against every donk on the basis that they passed Amnesty. But if it's bi-partisan, the donks are safe. This effectively kills Amnesty.

Intolerance of any kind bespeaks ignorance and fear of the unknown. I think it's vital to remember during this debate over "amnesty" that we were all once immigrants and that the world can no longer be divided strictly by national boundaries. We face common problems and must work together as a world community to fight them. The United Nation’s Millennium Development Goals, which call for cutting world hunger in half by 2015 and eliminating it altogether by 2025, are a good place to start thinking and acting with a global mindset. It is estimated that the expenditure of a mere $19 billion would eliminate starvation and malnutrition worldwide. In a time when the United States’ current defense budget is $522 billion, the goal of eradicating world hunger is clearly well within reach if we act together as one world.

Save this nonsense for your Socialist, one-worlders, Jessica. You're member here for 7 minutes an already you're selling such tripe? You've joined the wrong group.

So vg626 how long does one have to be a member before you allow them to make a comment that you don't agree with? Doesn't sound very American to me. Are you on the Board of RS and make the rules?

What the fellow to whom you're responding is getting at, is that, while not dispositive, there is a strong correlation between the length of time one has had an account and the degree of credibility one's words inspire. We generally expect new posters to read some of the work around here before going off, hyperventilating and halfbaked, on some tangent or other, left, right, or "center."

You'll note that the lady's comment stands. However, if she wishes to actually have any sort of time here, she'd probably do well to sink into the bushes, watch the natives for a while, and try to figure out how to politely speak their language.

That goes for folks with accounts 1 week, 2 days old, as well.

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Here's the point. We've been the recipient of a bunch of drive-by posters who pose as either Republicans or conservatives. Jessica is a drive by posing as stupid.

The very idea that It is estimated that the expenditure of a mere $19 billion would eliminate starvation and malnutrition worldwide. anybody would try to pass off that ration of stupidity is more than enough to be cause for criticism. I won't even get into the meme of comparing that to the US Defense budget.

And no, I'm not a director or moderator either. My opinions are my own. And, FWIW, what vg did was very "American". Last time I checked, we still have free speech. After all Jessica got to toss in her two cents, there's nothing that says she gets to act stupid in public and not get publicly rebuked.
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We are the ones who make a brighter day
So lets start giving
Theres a choice we're making
We're saving out own lives
its true we'll make a better day
Just you and me

*sniff* - it just brings tears to my eyes...

I had a music teacher in grade school that made us learn that song. *shivers*

She also had us sing "Up With People" and "It's a Small World" to which I wrote parodies that became rather popular.

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Remember the Pueblo. Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle, and mutilate. Know yourself. If you need help, call the FBI. Exercise caution in your daily affairs, especially with those persons closest to you... That lemon on your left, for instance. Be assured that a walk through the seas of most souls would scarcely get your feet wet. Fall not in love, therefore, it will stick to your face. Gracefully surrender the things of youth: the birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan - and let not the sands of time get in your lunch. Hire people with hooks. For a good time, call 606-4311, ask for Ken. Take heart in the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese. And reflect that whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be worse in Milwaukee.

(You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
Whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.)

Therefore, make peace with your god, whatever you perceive him to be: hairy thunderer or cosmic muffin. With all its hopes, dreams, promises, and urban renewal, the world continues to deteriorate. GIVE UP!

You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
Whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.

we were not "all immigrants once." That is a myth. Most of us were born here. More importantly, previous waves of immigrants came here legally in full compliance with our laws, however strict or lax they may have been at various times. If you don't appreciate the fundamental distinction between legal and illegal immigration, we can't have a productive discussion.

Also, why can't we divide the world by national boundaries? It has served this country quite well for about 230 years and I, for one, am not interested in seeing that changed.

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U.N.?? Name me one instance where their goals were achieved or one instance when they didn't make any given situation they inserted themselves into demonstrably worse.

One world? Words fail me on that one. You work for the State Dept., right?

You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.

You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.

I've been a bit gloomy lately, and I really needed the laugh!

That was almost as good as Cheryl Crow's "One Square is the Greenest."

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And Rightly So!

refers to the Class of 09, which would make the post appropriately sophomoric.

In Vino Veritas

"the goal of eradicating world hunger is clearly well within reach if we act together as one world."

You mean, we just need to act together as one world??? That's it? Well, I never realized it was so easy!!

Come on everyone!! Onward, as ONE WORLD!!

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Thank goodness for small miracles. I would be willing to bet that if the idiots in the Senate faced re-election every two years, they too would have voted to kill this P.O.S legislation.

They need to enact Newt's Ten Simple Steps plan.

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in some quarters these days, and that may be a spinner here to tell us the merits of the wonderful contents of the clay pigeon amendment (which no one in the Senate or White House has read yet).

P.S.: On a serious note, isn't it nice to be encouraged to be tolerant because you don't agree with someone? Makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

While this resolution is certainly encouraging, I am concerned about the votes of the other 70 odd Republicans in the House caucus who apparently didn't vote. If 40 or 50 of them join these 23, we are in definite trouble. Can anyone elaborate on this?

Frank Katz

Why did so few vote? Is this anything more than symbolic?

Since this was a conference vote, I'm assuming it was a secret ballot and we won't know who the sellouts are on our side in the House? I have a good idea of the usual suspects, but a list would be nice. What about the other 62 GOP members that didn't vote? I guess they were not there or chickened out and abstained?

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I'm not a moderator, just one of the participants here, but I thought I'd try to give you a straight response to your comment.

I would strongly exhort you to take Thomas' advice to heart about observing this foreign country and learning the culture of the natives here before attempting to communicate.

Unfortunately, your failure to follow this principle got you off to a poor start here, because your comment violated several key principles of a political blogsite.

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Comments should address the topic of the post. Violating this and going off on a tangent is called "threadjacking" and is generally frowned upon. This post was about a vote by the Republica House caucus on the immigration bill following today's cloture vote in the Senate. Your comment had only a sliver of connection with that topic and rapidly headed off to a totally different topic. Save such comments for the next "open thread" - where by definition anything is "on topic". (Or this material would be appropriate to start a new conversation with your own blog post, although in your case particularly, you need to first take sufficient time to thoroughly complete the task of the first paragraph.)

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And Rightly So!

88 members of the caucus decided to either vote for amnesty or not take a stand at all. 114 vocal opponents is nice, but 44 percent of them are looking like cop outs.

 
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