On The Immigration Bill
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We don't need any additional legislation regarding immigration - at least not now.
Secure the boarders first. Tighten up the enforcement employer/worker checks. Cut back on medical care and free schooling for undocumented folks - and the problem will begin to fix itself. Just enforce the laws on the books now. There's certainly no rush - this legislation should be dropped and the issue debated through the next Presidential election cycle.
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"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -- James Madison
Old Crow (as in association by the way)
Let's look at your mantra a bit.
"Secure the boarders first"
How? Duncan Hunter memorial fence is not being built, and the 700+ miles was not funded when Republicans were in charge of both houses and the White house.
With what personnel ? President Bush pushed for a very limited amount of National Guard troops, totally unarmed, to go to the border. By the way, are they still there? Let's not even mention some NG units which are already on their third trip to support President Bush's "excellent adventure", going to make that a fourth deployment to the border?
"Tighten up the enforcement employer/worker checks."
What laws that you allude to apply now? Why are "unmatched" SSN numbers, or rather employers who have a large statical number of them not being investigated right now? Ask the President and Secretary Chartoff about that one.
"Cut back on medical care and free schooling for undocumented folks"
Medical care of all who present themselves to an ER is a Federal mandate crafted in many many court decisions, paid for by local governments. How do you propose to change that? Local schools are only funded in part by Federal tax dollars, are you proposing putting a rider on No Child Left Behind to deputize members of the Uber Liberal Teachers Unions to check immigration status?
Enforce the law on the books now?....
When Pigs Fly!
OK so the current bill stinks, so work on making the stink go away at least as far as the Democrats will let them.
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No one is abiding by the current laws but everyone will abide by this law?
OK...
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Steve
Never claimed this bill is perfect or even acceptable. But stonewalling, doing nothing is worse in my book. That's what we had 6 years of. Come up with a better realistic plan and laws that can actually get passed and I'll cheer!
Maybe even get the President to take a leadership position on having his administration start enforcing the laws we have on the books right now using executive orders, that would be a step in the right direction and amazing.
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You ask, "then what?" How about drafting an immigration bill in a committee rather than patching together a secret bill? How about allowing people to understand what the goals of the bill are rather than telling people that the bill will be voted on before anyone has a copy of it?
Maybe the Senate and the House could split the enforcement provisions from the amnesty provisions and see which provisions get more congressional votes? Ah, but instead Congress and the President say, "You can't have a fence or more border guards without amnesty for 12 million or more illegal immigrants."
Excuse me. But rewarding illegal behavior is exactly what we don't need to do.
The Left thinks that the "axis of evil" is Wal-Mart, Haliburton and Enron.
from my site The Minority Report via The Heritage Foundation
Founder and contributor to The Minority Report and Senior writer for The Hinzsight Report
Steve
Not a bad piece at all. The only quibble I would have is the definition of "Amnesty".
Hardliners seem to wish to see a very punitive punishment, expulsion from the country. It is politically impossible in my view to ever get Democrats to agree with that level of punishment.
Open border types want no punishment at all along with immediate granting of status to the 12+ Million illegals already here.
There in lies the horns of a dilemma, the need for a compromise between the two poles of the problem. Assuming that one actually does want something done about the problem of illegal immegration, which is not a forgone conclusion from both the Left and the Right politician point of view.
The way this bill has been crafted in the dark without public scrutiny is not the way to assure hardliners that it is not amnesty, and frankly the President has been absent on taking to the bully pulpit on this topic and is not trusted by hardliners.
I do think the directors of RS got it right, what's the rush to push a bill that is effect a pig in a poke through in a hurry?
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But there is no compromise position possible that I can see between expulsion and amnesty. There is the current setup, in which we have open borders and tens of milions of illegals living here. But I don't see that this is a viable situation either. Those are the three possible states - they are not here, they are here as citizens, or they are here as some sort of second class citizens. Pick your poision. All come at some cost.
You seem to want "something" done? What is the problem you think needs to be fixed? What is happening in your neighborhood that you want to be changed?
It sounds like you are presenting the same false choice repeated endlessly in the mainstream media and by George Bush. If we just enforce the law then people would leave on their own. Perhaps there could be a phase-in period so that employer verification would initially only be applied to new hires. There are many ways to improve employer verification without having to suddenly deport everyone.
Jon
Good questions, here's an attempt to answer them:
1) All who are working in this country should pay their fair share of the tax burden. Kill the underground economy by going after those that employ people without paying into the system and we will be better off.
Why; Because Southern California is being crushed by something like 4 to 6 million people, 70 percent of whom work off the books and pay no income or other payroll taxes. Our social services are being run into the ground because of this extra burden, and it's being passed to the middle income folks like myself.
2) All aliens, legal or illegal should be subject to a high standard of legal conduct, they are not. All aliens convicted of a crime and incarcerated should be deported at completion of sentence, don't want them here.
Why; A recent rash of fatal accidents in this county are being committed by illegal aliens who have a long history of criminal behavior. This is just plain nuts. In the last two years there have been three fatal accidents with illegal aliens at the wheel.
3) Reduce the unrestricted flow of people into the country. California and the SW in general needs to take a breather from adding people at a rapid clip and let infrastructure catch up for a while. Fundamentally no country who cannot control it's borders is a real country.
I am less concerned than most over the cultural issue, which seems to be a root cause/problem issue.
I think the framework of the current bill could work, but as Charles Kruthammer stated the other day, the decision gates and metrics to used to judge and govern the program need to be real and not subject to fudging by this President or future Presidents.
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It will do nothing but temporarily remove the pressure on both parties to actually solve this problem. Don't let it pass. It helps nothing, harms sovereignty, the working class, undermiines the rule of law worse than the current situation, and removes the issue from the 2008 campaign.
IT DOES NO GOOD, STEVE. But is does do harm.
Group most hoping this Senate bill dies: Employers with businesses that rely on illegal immigrants with forged documents--forged documents that the employers can hide behind, unscathed. Bad employers would love it if this bill dies from conservative backlash. The Senate bill requires an affirmative check on improved forge-proof documents. The current law requires a glance and a sign off that some piece of paper, that looks real, exists. Big difference.
Like drivers licenses, social security cards etc that I can buy on any street corner here in NY?
Sorry I'm not buying.
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"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -- James Madison
...with a data strip numbers to check against a database, and some digitally-encoded biometric data that could also be checked if needed.
We have supermarkets in our area, named "Cub," that accept a fingerprint scan as a payment option for repeat customers, instead of using a credit card scan, approval, and signature every time. There's a scanner at every checkout. The technology is here. They just have to require it and use it.
Nor is there likely to be a government agency with its level of efficiency anytime soon.
Whats more if the government contracted it out to Amex we would see them doing the job as poorly as any other government contractor.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
this Administration will continue to turn a blind eye to lawbreaking. If employers knew they would be pursued like the criminals they are in these matters, we would have workable and acceptable legislation tonight.
There really isn't much more to say here. The bill, if it even has been written, sucks. The senators who drafted it are fools. And those two things aren't unrelated.
isn't even in the top five of stuff that causes my heart to palpitate.
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Put a "trigger" in place requiring that Al Queda be defeated as a prerequsite to "comprehensive immigration reform".
We'll have Osama being dragged in chains through Washington by Labor day.
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.. its not hard to see which of the two our political class places the higher priority on. I think they'd sell their first born daughters to a slave trader if it move them closer to amnesty.
In a thousand page document? Perhaps all the furor and outrage indicate that this will die as I hope. Each party is hoping the other will end up accountable. Back to '86 and enforce those laws!
Edmund Burke: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
add 6000 Ins Agents quota them at 4 illegals a day. In a year the problem is solved.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
The return rate from Mexico is higher than the recidivism rate for convicted felons. And the Mexicans come back quicker than the felons go back to prison.
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Maybe make the learn the collected wisdom of Al Gore. Or perhaps have Hillary do charm lessons
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
I suspected as much. A couple of quick thoughts.
First, will we ever be able to trust the Senate to handle this matter? I'm not being snarky here. I had to implement the 1986 IRCA for a fairly large corporation. That's another story, but that legislation came about the same way...closed doors, suckered senators, a few months of enforcement, then massive amnesty.
Secondly: Are GOP senators dumb? Again, that's not snarky. But when provisions like that one crop up and a respectable man like Jon Kyl apparently was unaware of it or didn't grasp the implications, it makes me question the mental firepower of our senators.
Finally: Is there any bill of this nature this president wouldn't sign? He has zero credibility with me on this issue at this point, and I don't even despise him as does most of the country. I think he would sign anything that would grant amnesty and would guarantee a continued non-enforcement policy.
I actually would trust an unelected legal contract team to devise the bill more than the United States Senate. I base that on my 1986 experience as well as what happened last year and this week.
for the past 20 I have written my congress critters my senators. There is one thing I know for certain. They don't consider doing the right thing, or following the laws they make a constituency.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
This is why we need systemic changes. We send the best intentioned to Washington and they get corrupted and swallowed up by the system. We need to change the system somehow for much more visibility and disclosure. We need more accountability on a daily basis coming from our government. Elections every 2-6 yrs are not enough apparently.
Basic psychology says the best way to change behavior is the carrot/stick at the time of behavior, not 2-6 yrs later in an election.
Real change requires real change. -Newt Gingrich
What if the "Representative" we send is already a corrupt, soulless heathen? What if the people in his/her district think he/she is the greatest thing since candy, for the pork he/she brings home? What about the minority in said district, who have been shamelessly backstabbed?
Need a way to clear the roles; perhaps mandatory restrictions on pork projects?
together, and you would need constitutional amendments for each, Line Item veto, congressional term limits, and a balanced budget amendment.
Another procedural that might help is that each and every bill must be read in its entirety in each house while a quorum was present. That would really slow things down.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
As long as the critters can put multiple nonsense into a necessary bill, the system will remain flawed. If a measure makes sense for America, let it be argued on its own merits.
I found the latest "class picture" of the Congressional Republicans. The members of the House are in pic too, so you've gotta make some assumptions...
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This is what worries me most, that essentially every illegal immigrant is "on the path to citizenship" therefore, none can be deported.
I think this bill will be killed, it's too risky a proposition, both in terms policy and the political ramifications. A lot of political careers could end over this bill, especially for Democrats representing "red" and "purple" states.
Regardless if this bill passes or not, McCain's Presidential aspirations are over.
Conservatives need to keep up the heat, I have some friends who work for Senator Kyl, and his office has been swamped with angry calls and faxes. I'm really disappointed my favorite hometown Senator sold us out like this. He ran a dishonest campaign that he was against amnesty.
"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich. "
William F. Buckley, Jr.
Erick, you did remarkable work this week. Seriously. I have been too despondent about our party to offer much lately, but you have inspired me to at least think about becoming active again. This has happened to me very infrequently in life and never on line before. I really thank you on the personal and the greater good levels.
Finally, you are right. This travesty, along with Calverts of the party, are emblematic of all that has gone wrong with the GOP. Before the weeknend is over, I may convince myself the party can be saved. I hope that isn't delusion if I come to that conclusion.
And again, good luck down in Macon.
Both major parties are morally and intellectually bankrupt. If we haven't learned that by now we never will. The name of the game for them is power. That's all they care about and everything else is a smokescreen in a feeble attempt to cover that fact.
What did the GOP do when they controlled the Presidency and the Congress? They threw it away and proved that they don't know how to govern as a majority party. Now they are a minority again with a President who hasn't got a clue, they are kissing you know what in order to find favor with their new masters. Save the Republican Party? Please tell me: what's worth saving?
The Republicans are in the minority in both the House and Senate. So, where is the incentive for Republicans to get their hands dirty and participate in this train wreck? When you are in the minority, you can sit back and let the other side draft a bill and let them take the heat and the criticism for it. But Republicans act like they want to maintain a sense that they are still "governing," even if this bill represents the exact opposite of governing. I have tremendous respect for Senator Jon Kyl and almost none for Senator John McCain. I have to think that Senator Kyl already regrets signing up for this suicide mission.
The Left thinks that the "axis of evil" is Wal-Mart, Haliburton and Enron.
I have heard a lot of Republicans make the ridiculous case that it was better to work with the Democrats to get some conservative provisions. This is nonsense. The bill would have a much better of chance of dying if it was a pure amnesty bill, instead the Republicans gave the Democrats some window dressing provisions that act as political cover.
Also, if an amnesty bill is passed, I would rather it be labeled a Democrat bill than a bi-partisan one.
Republicans would be politically savvy to just let the Democrats destroy themselves fighting over this bill and making the case that this is what the American people get when they elect a Democratic Congress.
"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich. "
William F. Buckley, Jr.
Why should we respect someone who has joined with the likes of Ted Kennedy in sponsoring a bill that will mean the demise of the two-party system and will alter this country beyond our wildest imaginations? Can Kyl be that stupid that he doesn't realize that?
We understand why the Dems want this bill. It guarantees them millions of new voters and will make their party the only party in the land that can be elected.
Seriously, though, I believe money is behind it more often than not.
Just my $0.02.
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" -Ronald Reagan
1) The Republicrats are (stupidly) trying to buy Latino votes. They naively believe that the newly-minted "citizens" will vote for the GOP because they let them stay.
2) The Left has been accusing the Republicants of being in the pockets of business, and they are/were right. This is another sellout to the business interests, to keep the flow of cheap labor coming. And in case anyone missed it, another part of this POS bill is a significant boost in H-1B visas so the offshore tidal wave can continue.
This is a watershed "Emperor has no clothes" moment. The RINOs have finally gone too far, and everyone is finally seeing what's underneath. Scratch the surface of many of these "leaders" of the GOP and underneath you see Blue State Democrytes.
The irony of it all is that Bush and the Republicans will not get one ounce of credit for the bill. The democrats will. The dems are far superior in the PR/marketing/spin/misinformation/propaganda machine.
Real change requires real change. -Newt Gingrich
They'll get the blame for anything MALDEF and LULAC don't like. "We would have eliminated the waiting period entirely and not included this onerous $5,000 fine, but the evil racist xenophobic Republicans forced those things in there. But if you help us elect a Democratic President in 2008, we'll just ignore all those sorts of provisions and add hardship exceptions and fasttracking."
No wonder the Senate/Whitehouse did this in secret. They know they're betraying us on a lot of different levels with this.
Almost all the arguments I've seen that support amnesty rely on the "fact" that we can't physically round-up and deport 12 million people. That's the biggest red herring ever hauled in with the nets.
The solution is:
1 - build a fence along the entire border
2 - treat employers of illegals the same way the IRS treats tax evasion; fines, jail time, asset siezure
3 - withold federal funds from any State or municipality that offers social services like heath care, education, etc.
The illegals will find their own way back across the border.
So what if we can't deport 12 million illegal immigrants? No one can guarantee that illegal immigration will be reduced to zero upon enactment of any new immigration law. The argument that we have to "regularize" illegal immigrants because we can't deport them is dead wrong. If we want to, we can pursue a policy of benign neglect of illegal immigrants. We certainly don't have to reward those who came here illegally. Doing that undercuts all immigration laws because it sends a message that our immigration laws are to be obeyed only if they don't inconvenince anyone.
The Left thinks that the "axis of evil" is Wal-Mart, Haliburton and Enron.
We don't have to go after the illegals to get them out. Just go after the employers and the social services.
Congress' use of the InterState Commerce Clause to withold highway funding from States that didn't raise the drinking age to 21. Drinking was a activity that was not taking place during InterState Commerce, but in public houses and at home, but the Fed threatened to withold HIGHWAY Funds. Sounds like a good model to use for providing services to illegals.
It seems like conservatives don't like it, and many liberals don't like it either. Even labor groups are unhappy with it. What about the House? I'm assuming all the Republicans will vote against it since they passed the tough Sensenbrenner bill last Congress. Will there be enough "blue dog" Dems (and ultra-left Dems who think it is not liberal enough) to shoot it down in the House? Any possibility of a filibuster in the Senate?
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
Can we add a provision to the Immigration Bill that the so-called "Z" visas can only be issued in the Congressional Districts and the States whose Representatives and Senators voted FOR this bill?
The goal should be to make life miserable for illegals, the reason they come to America is for a better life, if we deny that to them they will leave by themselves.
If they can't find a job, send their kids to school, rent an apartment, get a mortgage, get a driver's license, get social security, get health care, food stamps, etc., they will eventually leave.
If the federal government went after the businesses that hire illegal immigrants and mandated an employee verification system, that action alone would inspire a mass exodus of illegal immigrants.
Some fringe conservatives think that there is going to be a mass roundup of illegal immigrants, as much as I would like to see that happen, it's politically impossible.
"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich. "
William F. Buckley, Jr.
Why didn't all of the slaves from Africa go back?
You’re a persistent cuss, pilgrim.
John Wayne to Jimmy Stewart in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
There are many reasons why former slaves didn't return to Africa after they were free, such as:
Geographically speaking, Africa was a FAR place to go, hardly any former slave could afford to book ship passage to make a trip like that. Illegal immigrants, on the other hand, can return to their home country in a few hours with a simple car drive or plane ticket.
Many slaves no longer had any connection to Africa. Importing slaves had actually been illegal for quite some time, most slaves were born in the United States, making them several generations apart from their homeland. Illegal immigrants however, are primarily first generation and still have deep roots with their friends and families in their home country, often times they are still sending money to their homeland.
The main reason, however, was life was much better in America, even for a former slave, that it would have ever been in an undeveloped continent like Africa was at that time.
"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich. "
William F. Buckley, Jr.
I think that this main reason could also apply to many illegals.
You’re a persistent cuss, pilgrim.
John Wayne to Jimmy Stewart in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
You may be right, some may prefer life here, even unemployed, but most will leave if they can't provide for themselves and their families, since that is why they came here in the first place, to get a higher paying job.
"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich. "
William F. Buckley, Jr.
Didn't mean to get snarkey. Just one of those days.
I think that back then it was quite an ordeal crossing the Atlantic: expensive, a lot of hardship, and the ships didn't hold very many people.
Today I would guess most illegals got here under their own steam. They shouldn't have too much trouble getting back to their home country. In fact, I think if they had the good grace to present themselves, the INS would be glad to provide transport.
Okay...bear with me.
The U.S. supports and covertly aids a Cuban takeover of Mexico. We help hand the country over to Castro. Castro, being well...Castro....will build a fence (if not a wall) along the entire southern border of the U.S. to keep his Communist fledglings from "migrating." And of course, he will deploy thousands of troops along such fence/wall to maintain it's security.
Then, a year or two later, we simply sponsor the overthrow of Castro...returning power to the Mexicans. The wall is already built for the U.S., it's just a matter of policing it now from our side and at the same time, once Castro is removed, the millions of illegals in the U.S. who haven't been able to correspond or visit their families in Mexico will all apply for visas to return home to Mexico to see their long lost families and once there, we don't let 'em back in!
Brilliant, yes? : )
We haven't been able to get rid of Castro for the last 50 years; how do you expect to do it, once he has the landmass and resources of Mexico at his disposal?
Aside from that small quibble, you might have a point.:)
Just allow the illegals have green cards WITHOUT citizenship.Lock up the border and we all move on.
the GOP have just "compromised" themselves out of existence. literally, because you can bet Comrade Hillary will liquidate them when her long reign of terror begins
...but I fail to see the stick.
Any meaningful immigration reform package offered, is woefully inadequate, if it does not provide for a strong series of sanctions against the government of Mexico. That is what is missing from this bill that MIGHT make it more palatable to the conservative base (still, no guarantees). The Mexican government has a long standing policy of actually instructing their people on how best to sneak into America. For over 200 years, we've been hearing about how Mexico is "such a poor country". If that is the case, why is their Presidente wearing $5000.00 suits, while the "poor and downtrodden" have to come to the USA to make $2/hr picking lettuce?
I know someone out there thinks I'm a racist and a bigot for feeling this way, but just try to sneak into Mexico. They reserve the Rights of Sovereignty as regards their own border enforcement policies; certainly we should be allowed the same consideration.
They blow the gates of the borders open and now they will hire 18,000 more Border Patrol agents, not two or four years ago, NOW. The federal government, the stuff of nightmares.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
I recall - and can't find the cite - that we have the ability to train about 3,500 BPA's per year. Does anyone have that article from probably last year?
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It is time for the states to fire the federal government, declare independence and move on.
Massive immigration, controlled or uncontrolled, without adequate time for assimilation and integration, will bring bigger demographic differences among the states. We will end up with a kind of "balkanization" of the U.S.
The border wars continue. Unfortunately the GOP has all but abandoned its party by caving in to amnesty.
Here's the bottom line. Unless illegal immigrants are deported there will soon be chaos in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, and California. These states are the keys to the "New American Order", which ultimately will destroy the distinct American culture.
If we allow 12-20 million illegals to gain amnesty, be advised that goes for everyone, not just Mexicans. Included will be Arabs, Haitians, Africans, Russians, Chinese, Europeans, et al.
The Americans have a true American culture. It is all but disappearing with the influx of multi-culturalists. This is what liberals want.
Understand one thing. In the 1960's, the Communist Party USA went underground. It still exists. It is part and parcel of the liberal socialist movement,environmentalist movement, the left wing of the Democrat Party, the NEA, etc. It has a firm grip on all of this politcal correctness going around in this country right now. It has infiltrated every level of city, county, state, and federal governments, including many metropolitan police agencies.
Police officers now say they work for "the city of ..... or the county of....." instead of saying they work for the people. Codes of ethics for police to defend the constitution have been replace with "mission statements" defining and outlining their responsibility to the "department", not to the people.
To destroy a distinct American culture is to bring total socialistic doctrines to this fine country. Anyone who stands up for any conservative American value is ostracized, defamed and mocked as being prejudiced and phobic.
Get it straight...if you don't stand up against all of this, your country will cease to exist within a generation. The children of today are entitlement children, programmed and directed by the public school systems, evolutionists, environmentalists and liberl socialists to be dependent on government officials to make their decisions for them.
It's coming!!!
zonablue
Everyone in America is from someplace else except for the American Indian ... Blah, Blah, Blah! When my Great Grandparents came to the United States they wanted to become Americans. They worked hard and learned English. The Illegal Mexicans who come here have no intention of becoming Americans! Their children go to public schools and are taught by Spanish speaking teachers in Spanish. Everyone in their communities speak Spanish and they take their Drivers Licence test in Spanish. I had two employees from Albania who I gave one year to learn English and they made no attempt to do so! I fired them both and I refuse to hire people I can't communicate with. If I moved to a non English speaking country the first thing I would do is learn their language. In America there is no need for people to learn English. I was involved accident when a woman slammed into the back of my company truck. She couldn't utter a word of English and we had to wait for a Spanish speaking Police officer to arrive.
I fear the best years for America are far behind her. I thank God I never brought children into this world. America's politicians in Washington are surrendering to the invasion force of Mexicans hoping to buy votes and it is only going to lead to Senor Jose Gonzales Lopez Hernandez becoming President of The United States! God Help Us! I can't believe George W. Bush is supporting the amnesty bill. The republicans in Washington are selling out America. Australia is looking better to me all the time! At least they speak English!
We dont enforce the current law why create a new law that wont be enforced.McCain's support of this legislation will kill his Presidential ambitions.I wonder how the voters of Arizona feel ?
Better that they try to get the wall up in 24 hours than issue Z-visas in 24 hours. This is the same agency that sent Muhammed Atta his visa 6 months after he was dead.
But it seems to fit the pattern of the current GOP.
The Bush administration insisted on a little-noticed change in the bipartisan Senate immigration bill that would enable 12 million undocumented residents to avoid paying back taxes or associated fines to the Internal Revenue Service, officials said.
An independent analyst estimated the decision could cost the IRS tens of billions of dollars.
A provision requiring payment of back taxes had been in the initial version of a bill proposed by Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat. But the administration called for the provision to be removed due to concern that it would be too difficult to figure out which illegal immigrants owed back taxes.
Bad ju-ju there, needs to be fixed.
I think the approach mooted by the directors to cool things off for a month or so while the details of this pig in a poke get to the light of day is even more critical.
Or Congress can just vote in favor of the Tom Tancredo sponsored bill...whoops, there ain't one. Or we can wait another 20 years for something to get done about this issue.
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