Too Close To Call
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By the way, it should be noted that Senator DeMint has been repeated attacked by anonymous folks lately. These folks, we can tell, have close connections to both Lindsey Graham and John McCain. That's troubling and we should rally behind Senator DeMint.
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Arlen is begging Senators to take the traditional "middle ground" by voting yea on cloture and nay on the bill if they don't like it. He whined about people failing to show "courage" because 23 of them changed their votes yesterday during the course of a vote. (I didn't catch whoever spoke before Arlen.)
Feinstein is begging for cloture and says the Graham amendment is an important one - yet DiFi was one of the people yesterday who voted against all amendments in the sham procedure where they expected to kill all amendments without any debate.
I can at least respect Kyl on the points he's arguing. He's trying to dress the pig as best as possible - he says the 1986 enforcement provisions are not enforceable, so we need this bill.
It was 64-35 the other day. The 35 had to believe either:
1) The bill is a problem. -or-
2) The process being used is a problem.
How could anything that happened since then have allayed their concern about either one? The obvious goal is to get all amendments killed, so the bill will be unchanged most likely, and the process has been even worse than anyone could have imagined.
As far as I'm concerned, any of those 35 who votes yea today has either totally chickened out or been bought off through some nefarious means.
I'm writing checks to those who voted against.
Lindsey Graham has taken a page out of Ted Kennedy's book. When people disagree with you then you start talking louder and louder. Graham isn't quite doing the red face(partly due to 35 yrs of drinking your crime guilt away) Kennedy scream but he is getting close.
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Graham must be glad Voinovich is in the Senate, saving Graham from being the whiniest GOP Senator.
He said to his Republican "friends": "Remember this day if you vote 'no'."
Most of us are thinking": "Remember this day if you vote 'yes'."
Oh geez, now Salazar is whining about how hateful the opponents are and is quoting Cesar Chavez. I can't believe he hasn't called us racists yet, but he's implying that as best he can.
Specter and Kennedy were given 50-60 mins to "debate" cloture. They deigned to each give Sessions 5 of "their" minutes. Sessions, Vitter, and DeMint were excellent as expected.
Now Durbin is waxing sophistically about our history of (he forgot to say "legal") immigration and lying about opponents wanting to keep all immigrants out.
Kennedy is blathering that "we are called by the ancients - the founders of the Republic" and saying that we knocked down all these walls of discrimination, and this issue ranks up there with ending racism etc. What a dope! Opponents are trying to kill a "march for progress". He must have really hit the sauce this morning to be yelling this much before lunch time. We have a choice of voting for our hopes or for our fears - for our future or for our past. He is amazing.
Looks like he's getting more time than Sessions et all combined.
He says the CBO says that income from taxes and fines and fees will more than offset all setup costs and future benefit costs. That's not true is it? I though CBO said costs were high.
Sessions et al were saying CBO says that this bill will only reduce future illegal immigration by 13%.
to restore confidence in Congress. Huh? I feel the opposite - pulling off this giant stunt of a process is the sort of thing that's killing public confidence.
Specter is implying that the SENIOR Senator from SC knows the will of the people better than the JUNIOR Senator from SC. He says everyone knows that the "naysayers" are the ones who are calling in, but the "silent majority" wants us to move forward, just like all the people on the street are telling him as he mingles among us common folk all the time.
with the Senate phone system down.
From michellemalkin.com
10:20am Eastern update. Jeff Sessions gives a reality check to the shamnesty claim that illegal immigration will be reduced by referring to CBO analysis. Sessions reports that the Senate telephone system has shut down and crashed because of overwhelming public feedback.
Every Senator who is in favor of this bill should resign today. A vote for this bill is a vote against the national defense of the United States.
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This bill gives us a "foolproof method" for employers to tell who is legal. I bet the new currency can't be counterfeited either.
Now he's saying that he likes some of the amendments, but this was crafted by compromise - implying therefore what a handful of Senators came up with can't be touched by the others.
Now he's going on yet again about voting for cloture and against a bill. It's a simple public policy question, not a freedom of speech or religion issue. Huh?
And he's whining again about how people switched their votes on the Baucus amendment yesterday. He already said all this earlier this morning. He calls it "cynical maneuvering" unlike what the leadership has done here. He calls it "profiles in cynicism" when we should be showing "profiles in courage". Geez, I think he's convincing more people to vote no that might have been on the fence.
Now Reid is closing it out.
I'm almost thankful that I have to shut it down for a teleconference. I don't think I can take this.
He did the "Tommy coming out of the shadows" speech again. Barf!
He said he doesn't believe any Senator who votes against this is prejudiced or hateful, but apparently that what he thinks of all of us citizens who are contacting those Senators.
He talked about how his family was enriched by immigration, at least in part because it got him some of the jewelry he wears today. *snicker* He didn't say that his in-laws were illegal or legal immigrants - I know which one my money's on.
Sessions is trying to cut him off for going over time, but apparently Reid will get unlimited time.
I'm off to my t/c and have to miss the rest.
NRO reports Smith has given in to pressure and will vote Yes.
by the leadership.
NRO's the corner has a running commentary going. They say nine former yesses have voted no.
It's starting to sound like this is going down in flames!
Brownback was listed yes at first; now shows no.
Even McConnell voted no, so you know this is dead by a mile.
This info from the corner link above.
Who would leave a growing network and go to a dying one? They must have offered her a fortune.
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was used by the GOP yesterday or point me to a good link that talks about the issue.
Romney or Fred.
This "clay pigeon" was set up to give Reid control of the floor with one amendment broken into "divisions". The idea was that each of these would get tabled with no debate allowed, letting Reid keep mowing them down without ever relinquishing control of the floor.
But what blew it open is that one of the "division" amendments failed to get tabled. That "broke the string", and Reid could not keep going. So for all practical purposes his only choice was to end the scheme and call for cloture immediately.
At least that's my understanding, which is pretty limited.
I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone who cared deeply about this issue that ELECTIONS MATTER!
So when you think about a Hillary Clinton presidency- know that this shamnesty bill will pass overwhelmingly.
We need to do everything possible to stop that from happening. Which means finding the BEST candidate to stop her. The consequences of getting that wrong are too horrible to contemplate.
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You can tell when a bill is a piece of crap when the main, strongest, most repeated argument for the bill is our elected elite saying they worked tooooooo hard and have come tooooooo far to defeat it.
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