But I Wonder . . .

By Pejman Yousefzadeh Posted in Comments (6) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »

Will the main writer of the Daily Dish pay much attention to this?

He should. It is exceedingly well written. But if the main writer of the Daily Dish does pay a lot of attention to the blog post in question and takes its implicit critiques to heart, said main writer will have to apologize for a lot of smearing and gratuitous insults directed at others purely because of political disagreements with those others.

And I write that as a non-neocon.


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...I thought the original neo-cons were folks like Norman Podheretz and Irving Kristol.

At least in the case of Irving Kristol, he was a Trotsky-ite who began to see that markets, not government, could best solve the social ills that Kristol and his friends thought needed solving.

Those neo-cons, former socialists mostly, reluctantly accepted that government was not the answer.

Nowadays, "neo-con" connotes an aggressive, interventionist foreign policy. Some on the far right and the far left believe that neo-cons are working for Israel, multi-nationals, the Saudis, whoever...

Those neo-cons, former socialists mostly, reluctantly accepted that government was not the answer.

And then there's the other side of the coin, socialists like Musolini and his Austrian student, who decided that MORE government was the only answer, and became fascists, which is pretty much interchangable with "neo-con" for many.

By the way, has anyone else noticed that the same people who spent the cold war pointing out the "immorality" of US support of anti-comnunist dictators, are now pointing out the immorality of the US opposition to those selfsame dictators?
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The difference between Naziism or Fascism and Socialism or Communism isn't in the what or why, it's in the who. You get the same loss of the individual to the collective, but it's just to a different collective. Nazis favor the collective 'race', Fascists favor the collective nation, Socialist and Communist favor the collective 'class.'

That's why Communists have to fight so hard against fascism: Their artifial distinction is less popular than those of the fascists and the Nazis. Mussolini pretended to pick up the old SPQR banner, Kristallnacht was another in a long line of European pogroms, but the left has no history to draw upon, nothing for the ignorant masses to react to..

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re the fluctuating opposition to non-communist dictators.
We were wrong for supposedly supporting Saddam in the Iraq-Iran war and we were wrong to invade and overthrow him.
Actually, and as Oliver North said, we were helping pit these two rogue nations against each other, but who bothers with distinctions.

If morals and positions fluctuate enough and are in major contradiction often enough it's safe to say they, neither morals nor principled positions, exist.

If they don't exist the next question becomes, "what kind of human beings are we dealing with"?

"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville

...misplaced John Kennedy Democrats. "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."-JFK
"I didn't leave my party, my party left me"-Zell Miller
And on and on and on.

In some cases, that's absolutely true. The Spirit of 68ers stole their party, and now they have to take refuge in ours to get some semblance of their priorities agreed upon.

Though others had more thorough a policy (if not worldview) conversion than that, and actually favor Republican-style policy on domestic matters too, having seen the total failure that the War on Poverty ended up being.

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