Earning The True Conservative Vote

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Fundamentally, the term "True Conservative" has become increasingly problematic. If nothing else, the looming 2008 elections is helping to further blur lines of distinction that were crystal clear back in 1994. The loss of power in the 2006 midterms has only served to further make "Conservatism" a term of convenience; those hoping to get elected by claiming to espouse the ideology throw it around like a hand grenade in the middle of a crowd of purists vs. those trying to convince Americans that it is the root cause of all the problems we face today. We're not ALL convinced, but sufficient numbers of those who are focused on winning over being right eat up these convenient interpretations of the meaning and purpose of "Conservatism" like candy.

An outstanding piece comes to us via Douglas MacKinnon posted at Townhall which attempts to lay out a few pieces of sage advice (10 to be exact) for GOP hopefuls to consider as they make the last dash for the party nomination. This piece is NOT about who IS or is NOT in-line with MacKinnon's suggestions-we each rightly hold our own personal opinions on "our guy" - but these "Ten Things the Republican Nominee Must Understand to Earn the True Conservative Vote" deserve more than a cursory glance.

Let us review:

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We have many points of reference. Two (though not ONLY these two) of my favorites:

In 1937, "US Senator Josiah Bailey of North Carolina was concerned that President Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his New Deal programs were leading America and North Carolina down the road to collectivism. Although he did not oppose every attempt at government intervention, Senator Bailey believed that limitations should be placed on government growth." He is credited with being part of a group that drafted the Conservative Manifesto which offered 10 "practical solutions" for the problems of the times:

1. Immediate revision of taxes on capital gains and undistributed profits in order to free investment funds.
2. Reduced expenditures to achieve a balanced budget, and thus, to still fears deterring business expansion.
3. An end to coercion and violence in relations between capital and labor.
4. Opposition to “unnecessary” government competition with private enterprise.
5. Recognition that private investment and enterprise require a reasonable profit.
6. Safeguarding the collateral upon which credit rests.
7. Reduction of taxes, or if this proved impossible at the moment, firm assurance of no further increases.
8. Maintenance of state rights, home rule, and local self-government, except where proved definitely inadequate.
9. Economical and non-political relief to unemployed with maximum local responsibility.
10. Reliance upon the American form of government and the American system of enterprise.

Striking in this 70 year old list is how little has changed in the years AND THE TIMES since those bygone days.

Twenty three years later, in Sharon Connecticut, the Young Americans for Freedom offered up THIS list of 12 assertions:

IN THIS TIME of moral and political crises, it is the responsibility of the youth of America to affirm certain eternal truths.

WE, as young conservatives believe:

THAT foremost among the transcendent values is the individual's use of his God-given free will, whence derives his right to be free from the restrictions of arbitrary force;

THAT liberty is indivisible, and that political freedom cannot long exist without economic freedom;

THAT the purpose of government is to protect those freedoms through the preservation of internal order, the provision of national defense, and the administration of justice;

THAT when government ventures beyond these rightful functions, it accumulates power, which tends to diminish order and liberty;

THAT the Constitution of the United States is the best arrangement yet devised for empowering government to fulfill its proper role, while restraining it from the concentration and abuse of power;

THAT the genius of the Constitution - the division of powers - is summed up in the clause that reserves primacy to the several states, or to the people in those spheres not specifically delegated to the Federal government;

THAT the market economy, allocating resources by the free play of supply and demand, is the single economic system compatible with the requirements of personal freedom and constitutional government, and that it is at the same time the most productive supplier of human needs;

THAT when government interferes with the work of the market economy, it tends to reduce the moral and physical strength of the nation, that when it takes from one to bestow on another, it diminishes the incentive of the first, the integrity of the second, and the moral autonomy of both;

THAT we will be free only so long as the national sovereignty of the United States is secure; that history shows periods of freedom are rare, and can exist only when free citizens concertedly defend their rights against all enemies…

THAT the forces of international Communism are, at present, the greatest single threat to these liberties;

THAT the United States should stress victory over, rather than coexistence with this menace; and

THAT American foreign policy must be judged by this criterion: does it serve the just interests of the United States?

Admittedly, the times of the YAF's assertions of principle found themselves engaged in the pervasive evil of the spread of Communism, but fair parallels can be drawn between this and the evils we confront with respect to Jihadism...this, however, is a topic already WELL debated in other circles. The bigger point here is that, over the generations, the fundamental principles and tenets have been routinely and repeatedly defined and described and yet we continually face challenges and assaults against Conservatism in the name of modernity, progress, and the decried need for change.

Reality of sound principle suggests otherwise.

Consider MacKinnon's piece in that context [fully reproduced here for clarity]:

1. First and foremost, he needs to understand that, by the tens of millions, true conservatives do exist in our country. That their unbending beliefs make them -- not only the backbone of this nation -- but the hope for a better future. That they unashamedly love their country and have reached the point of no return with regard to political correctness and pandering politicians who place themselves above the welfare of our Republic.

2. He needs to understand that they have a deep and abiding belief in God. A belief that is under a daily, escalating and obscene assault from those on the left who only use the word “Christian” as an insult, a punch line, or as an identifier to be added to a blacklist to deny employment at most schools, colleges, newspapers, and television networks. He needs to understand that this is a belief that must be acknowledged, respected, and defended. He needs to understand that all life is sacred and that it begins at conception.

3. He needs to understand that true conservatives believe we live in a sovereign nation with clearly defined borders that must be protected. Period. He must understand that the invasion of illegal aliens is not only a threat to that sovereignty, but widens the pathway for terrorists to infiltrate our nation. A scenario that the House Committee on Homeland Security has already documented as becoming a reality. He needs to accept that there are those in our country who would turn the United States of America into part of a “North American Union.” A suicidal strategy that was recently pushed and admitted to by former Mexican President Vicente Fox.

4. He needs to understand that we are engaged in a world-wide war against Jihadists and extremists who mean to wipe our nation off the face of the Earth. For that reason and more, it is imperative that we retain a national defense that is second to none. He needs to understand that true conservatives believe that the young men and women who serve in our military represent the very best of our nation and must be given every consideration. That without their heroic service, we will be vanquished.

5. He needs to understand that true conservatives do believe that large segments of the entertainment industry are purposefully and systematically exposing our children to the vilest forms of smut. That they do so first, to make money, and second, to indoctrinate as they continue their quest to subvert the morals, ethics, and character of our nation.

6. He needs to understand that true conservatives actually do believe in lower taxes and fiscal responsibility. That if you proclaim yourself to be a “Conservative” and turn your back on these tenets, then you are worse than those on the left who believe in neither. He needs to understand that true conservatives understand the value of limited government and expect their leaders to be just as enlightened.

7. He needs to understand that true conservatives believe in strict enforcement of the rule of law. That aside from the terrorists from without, our nation is at war with hundreds of thousands of violent gang members from within. That in many cases, these gangs are aligning themselves with drug cartels, terrorist groups and foreign nations. That if we don’t acknowledge this war and win it, then many of our cities and much of our border, will spiral into lawlessness and unchecked murder as these gangs prevail.

8. He needs to understand that the appointment of judges is an overriding issue for true conservatives. That they believe in having a strict-constructionist Supreme Court. That there can be no compromise in this area.

9. He needs to understand that if he panders to them now to win the nomination and then stabs them in the back to try and win the general election, he has lost them forever.

10. And finally, he has to understand that true conservatives will never vote for the “lesser of two evils” come November of 2008. That to do so, would be to betray all that they hold sacred. Faith, family values, and conviction can never be compromised.

So here we are, less than 100 days out from the onslaught of the primaries...and just about a year from the general. Like 70 years ago...and 40 years ago...and 13 years ago...we find ourselves STILL doing everything we can to find holes in the ideology, and equivocate over how much of it we need to really INSIST on adhering to on balance against how much of it we need to disavow in order to regain or retain POWER (a concept, itself, oxymoronic to the ideologies and principles we claim to espouse).

We seem hell-bent on re-learning lessons over and over and over again. I understand that the prevailing wisdom in the GOP has LONG since flown past ideology and has subsequently landed at the airport of "it's all about winning," yet I still pine for the days of old when winning came on the backs of being ideologically AND practically RIGHT on the issues and the methods by which they might be solved.

Time will tell regarding which will prevail.

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I read it quickly, and I saw nothing I disagreed with. Now to go to the original.

Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist."

Pass by Vuk

I have a lot of problems with McKinnon's list even when I get past the very unpleasant construction "He needs to understand...". Whenever someone tells me "you need to understand..." the first thing that comes to mind is "no, I don't."

To tell the truth, the whole descriptor "True Conservative" is a little bit like the argument among the ladies who sit in the front of the church going down the list of parishioners, discussing who are the "True Christians" and who are not.

If I have to take a purity test, can I take the one written by Wm Buckley Jr. and not the one by James Dobson?

the intention of the piece was to ask the question, not force an answer-purity is a long-gone concept in politics.

Take whichever one works for you...everyone else does.

haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).

...is that MacKinnon is himself trying to force an answer. One, might I add, that if implemented would define this very site as not being made up of True Conservatives. I'm not arguing with you, mind: just him.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

Well, mostly...my take on MacKinnon is not so much whether his list is pure. We each have, and take comfort in, our "own" list.

The bigger point for me leads to the idea that the hopefuls "should" be keeping each of we ideologists in mind along with the promises they're making...they are not going to be able to live up to very many of them anyway, but if they don't get what motivates us to go along with their ideas they won't get very far.

Generically, there is no such thing as a "true conservative" anymore-we don't have such luxuries these days.

haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).

my take on MacKinnon is not so much whether his list is pure. We each have, and take comfort in, our "own" list.

Yes and no. A central principle of conservatism has been a recognition of a higher order and an implication of that order in our social and political constructs. We all must examine for ourselves what we believe, why, and the implications of our beliefs on our views of government. However, there are certain values that MUST be considered the end-all core of conservatism, otherwise it would descend into meaninglessness. I look at these core values as I do the Apostles Creed in Christianity. Christians will hold different viewpoints on many issues, such as method and timing of baptism, the nature of communion/Eucharist, etc. But there are certain beliefs so central to Christianity that a denial of these tenets would preclude an individual from being considered a true Christian. The same must be said for conservatism. We must have our own core philosophical tenets that we can look at and say, "That is conservatism." Many within the movement may disagree on the application of these principles or on other non-core issues, but we MUST, for the sake of our governing philosophy, have a core governmental doctrine, otherwise the concept of conservatism becomes completely meaningless.

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And statesmen at her council met
Who knew the seasons when to take
Occasion by the hand, and make
The bounds of freedom wider yet
- Tennyson, _To the Queen_

Nice one, as always. I guess we conservatives are slow learners...


“I consider looseness with words no less of a defect than looseness of the bowels” - John Calvin

just insistent on looking for what we might have missed "last time we checked"...

sigh.

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Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).

Great post.

I still pine for the days of old when winning came on the backs of being ideologically AND practically RIGHT on the issues and the methods by which they might be solved.

You aren't alone. I agree with much of our President's policy, excepting his pre-11/2006 fiscal spending. However, perhaps unintentionally, Bush seems to relish in being unintellectual. I have heard that the President is an avid reader--perhaps so. But, appearances matter. When conservative youth look up to the head of their party and perceive a disdain for intellectual discourse, the motto of our youth transforms as it has from “Don’t Immanentize the Eschaton” to, as Daniel McCarthy points out, "George W. Bush is my homeboy." The victory in this regard, haystack, must first be won on the college campus.

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And statesmen at her council met
Who knew the seasons when to take
Occasion by the hand, and make
The bounds of freedom wider yet
- Tennyson, _To the Queen_

I find it interesting that the first two lists are very similar in their principles. The third list from MacKinnon has very little to do with the first two lists.

The first list is the best, followed closely by the second list. In short: Less is more! Those lists are lists of principles. The MacKinnon list is just another list of activism and litmus tests. Conservatism is not about activism, it's about limited government. Simple.

Some of that stuff is just nuts, roving gangs teamed up with terrorists and drug cartels destroying America? What? It's kind of hard to take someone seriously who puts forth that sort of theory. Also, is it a "true conservative" principle to want to censor/shut-down an entire industry? That sounds a lot like government shutting down free speech (I don't think those "strict constructionist" judges will go for that!).

Like I've said in previous comments, I fell for the socon trap with G Dub back in 2k and I will have no more of it.

They are firmly allied with the drug cartels in Mexico, Columbia, etc., and they have been known to be drug and arms-dealers nationwide. There are also ties to Al-Q., Venezuela and possibly Iran, through Venezuela. That enough for you?

Someone will always be in the business of working with drug cartels to get illegal drugs into the country, whether it's MS-13 or whatever organized crime syndicate du jour. It's like six degrees of Kevin Bacon, ms13 is linked to some mexican drug cartels, mexican drug cartels are linked to columbian drug cartels, columbian drug cartels are linked to the venezuelan dictator, the venezuelan dictator is linked to iran, and iran is linked to jihadi-style terrorism i.e. AQ. Therefore ms13 is linked to jihadi-style terrorism i.e. AQ.

Now as far as violence on the border, that is another story that will flesh out with border enforcement. The idea that the southern border is a war zone or is soon to be a war zone is a little rediculous. I just moved from the mexican border last year, so I'm not so far removed as it might seem.

My origional assertions stand: That list is not a list of ideals or principles, it's a list of items to pander to.

" Got to love the Lord for making things like that."
Morally Compromised

over the Mexican border. That goes beyond the scope of most drug cartels. Your Kevin Bacon analogy is just a flippant brush-off about an extremely serious situation. MS-13 is found all over the country, including here in the South. Not only does MS-13 have suspected ties to AQ, but most definitely to Hezbollah as well.

I find only blog entries and opinion pieces when I google the subject.

organizedcrime.biz? Gangs don't work that way, heh.

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It's a very, very interesting list. I'd be quite curious to know exactly when in 1937 he was writing, however. The US economy experienced a sharp cyclical recession beginning sometime in 1937 and continuing into 1938. I wonder if Bailey was writing after the effects of the recession were already evident.

His points touching on the banking system would have been relevant from the onset of the Depression, however. Credit was severely constrained throughout the Thirties because bankers became unwilling to lend to businesses and concentrated on staying liquid instead. Where did they put their money? In large part, into short-term US Treasury obligations.

Bailey makes some good points.

but near as I can tell it was in development '35-'37, and issued in the March timeframe? and very soon after many of the folks involved in the drafting denied having done so...but that's all I know-

anyone else in the history buff business know more?

haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).

Which is why it is so tough to be one and remain one when confronted with "political reality" which is the reason why all the compromises seem to get made. I assume that when idealistic legislators end up in Foggy Bottom, their ideas meet up with hard reality and they get left out of all the really critical stuff if they refuse to compromise their beliefs. So it is with all of us in our daily personal and professional lives. We are often confronted with situations that require us to put our ideals on the line and make the choice-- Do I do this because it will get me closer to what I think I want, or do I stand by my principles and take a hit?

All too often, standing by your principles and taking the hit gets you labeled as very "uncool." Much like being a practicing Christian or Jew these days, trying to raise morally sound children with a love of country and respect for our traditions, standing up for the enforcement of our border laws and soundly denouncing all the entitlement programs that continue to drain our resources--well, you get scoffed at on a regular basis.

On the other hand, selling out to be perceived as a "team player" has too high a price tag. I often wonder what a seasoned politician remembers of themself in their early days--do they recognize who they used to be compared to what they have become? Having made my share of youthful mistakes by compromising my integrity, the hard-won lesson is that you rest much easier at night if you do what's right, especially if it is the hard choice.

our collective conundrum remains winning versus being right.

The jury's still out on whether both can be accomplished or one will be sacrificed for the other.

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Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).

that one as you well know. I'm still not sure how to square that decision with my conscience over the long haul. To be honest, I pray that I won't have to!

Just about everyone in the party calls himself a conservative now, so when we have policy disputes, a lot of us start puffing up our chests and saying the other guy just isn't conservative enough.

It's a complete distraction from what we need to do: argue the issues from the facts to our objectives.

The Republican Party is not uniformly conservative. It is a coalition of factions. If Republicans need to understand anything, it's that it's okay not to be conservative.

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Either conservative or liberal point of view should also be framed in the authoritarian or libertarian approach. I'm saying that somebody can be very authoritarian demanding a universal nationwide order as a liberal or as a conservative. I am wary of this rhetoric when I hear it from either the professed conservative or liberal.

Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

I think that's a fine liberal way to go about that, and our party is certainly the best home of the liberals these days, given how the Democratic party's been hijacked by the far left.

But I don't think we need to try to be libertarian all the time. There is a role for the state. The boundaries of that role are defined in the Constitution.

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I totally agree with your last statement. Here is an example:

Conservative X proposes a nationwide maximum speed limit for all vehicles citing conservative values to defend his proposal.

Liberal Y proposes a nationwide maximum speed limit for all vehicles citing liberal values to defend his proposal.

I don't agree with either of these candidates, and their credentials as a liberal or a conservative are irrelevant to me.

Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

I wonder why you disagree? What values lead you to disagree?

For me I know what it is: the Constitution, which is what I said in my reply, heh.

I don't think libertarianism and small government are in themselves goods. I think they are good because the government as defined by the Constitution is proven to be good for Americans.

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I do worry about sweeping statements like #2 that seem to say that all conservatives have a deep faith about God. There are conservative atheists, agnostics, and secularists. And by defining conservatives narrowly, it excludes some.

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That statement, and also #10 were the only two nits I would have felt itched by enough to pick at.

Number two would seem to require any Conservative candidate to be some kind of Christian to pass muster, or at least to have some religious beliefs. While it may be true in practical terms, I don't like the fact, anyway. Considering that a candidate's faith as an issue usually comes up only during the campaign, and during his Presidency only as a side note (unless he really wants to push it with "Faith-based Initiatives" or by "lusting in his heart"), I'd rather use other indicators to tell me if someone is "good" or not. His behavior, perhaps. All that in addition to what you said.

Number ten--no votes for the Lesser of Two Evils--has always been a problem for me, as I bet it has for a lot of other people. "Not voting against Hillary" is basically giving her half of a vote. Yet, voting for "the Lesser" is also giving encouragement to the RINOs. I fall on the side of "Weed out the RINOs" during the primaries, and vote for whoever survives THAT process during the general election.

Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist."

 
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