Restless Leg Syndrome

Rush Was Right (Again)

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Perhaps this is not per se front page worthy, but have you noticed all the ads lately for Restless Leg Syndrome?

I used to think Rush Limbaugh was making it up until people started calling his show complaining about his mocking. Even then I was not sure. But in the past few weeks I've seen ad after ad after ad for restless leg syndrome medication and treatment. What's up with that?

I wonder how long it is before Algore and the envirowackos detain all the restless leg sufferers and harness their legs to create clean alternative energy. After all, it will be for the good of the country.

Consider this an open thread.

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Does not affect the physically active. Period. I'm not sufficiently up on the medical science to explain why. Only to know that it doesn't.
Telling isn't it? Much like Obesity and Diabetes being the greatest health-risks to America's "poor."

"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill

Worrying about baldness, toenail fungus, and restless legs is much like having to worry about the gout was in old times.
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It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones. -- Calvin Coolidge

and all my hair fell out. =:>(
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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?

You need Folic Acid, if all your hair fell out. A lot more than the FDA recommends, too.

But don't worry, they set their standard based on the diet of a man who died after years of subsisting on whale blubber and ingesting approx 25 MILLION INTERNATIONAL UNITS per day - so they naturally decided that 400 MG is MAXIMUM safe amount for Pregnant women who want to keep their unborn baby growing a STEM CELL, and 800 MG for a person with heart problems.

Two premier heart specialists told Dr. Helen Penzanti, the host of a TV health and nutrition show out of California, that at 10 of the 800mg tablets per day (working up slowly to that amount over several months), a person will be seeing a benefit, i.e. growing hair on the top of their head, which means that as long as there is a visible benefit in the amount of the B Vitamin they are taking, they know they are NOT, CAN NOT BE, taking a harmful amount.

Rose

Seriously. We have too many people whose livelihood depends on pushing pills. As long as there's money to be made selling repackaged corn syrup, hydrogenated fats, and pills, people will get fatter and less healthy.

I don't have a better alternative, though.

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""What's interesting is they're beginning to understand that, with victory comes responsibility..." - Pres. GW Bush

Raise your own children to be better than that. It won't be too long before we outnumber them and those of them still alive are too fat or too drugged up to scratch their backsides...

"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill

Only the perverse rules of Government regarding the FDA makes it financially lucrative to push pills for health concerns!

THAT means you have FEUDALISM (catering to those in political power for protected business enterprises) to thank for it, NOT CAPITALISM.

The GOVERNMENT set up rules to make it lucrative to sell SYNTHETICS for human ingestion, AND FORBIDS recommendin NATURAL HEALTHY ALTERNATIVES which may even HEAL the problem rather than merely MEDICATING it and controlling symptoms.

Few other nations have those sorts of rules governing their medications, and promoting synthetics and hybrids, because of their PATENTABILITY - to the detriment of the health of their citizens.

All these new coined "syndromes" are just an effort to create more drug sale opportunities. By giving them names gives people comfort to put a name on their terrible disease!

It is the same as Hallmark and other card companies trying to invent a holiday for every day of the year. today is "national garbage man day". Get them a thank you card and leave it out w/ your trash.

Up next, CTD, Conservative Thinking Disorder.

"Have you had random thoughts of conservatism?" "Have you had sudden thoughts of tax cuts?" "Did you vote for the Republican party in the last election?"

"If you answered yes to any of these questions you just might have CTD, Conservative Thinking Disorder. Good news is there is a treatment now available from the makers of Head On Apply Directly to the Forehead, Head On, Apply directly to the forehead, Head On, apply directly to the forehead."

If you often find yourself arguing the exceptions rather than the rule you just might be a Democrat.
-CommonCents

That's why they call something a 'syndrome' and not a disease: It's something they've seen, but they don't know why it happens.

We really shouldn't be calling AIDS AIDS anymore. We should only be referring to HIV, since the disease no longer is some weird syndrome being observed in promiscuous gay men by baffled big city doctors.
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It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones. -- Calvin Coolidge

...she's 81, and, yes, fairly inactive these days, although she says she can remember having it as a child. Her dad used to rub her legs so she could go to sleep.

RLS is a real nervous disorder of unknown origin. It's treated with drugs similar to Parkinson's disease. You can find your own links.

Mom also has osteoporosis. You may find that "disease" amusing as well, since it tends to afflict inactive older women. Like RLS, they advertise a drug remedy on TV; their spokesperson is Sally "You Really Like Me!" Field, who still looks pretty good at 60 or so, if you ask me.

Guys, I'd really advise you not to follow Rush's lead on this one. Sometimes he can really be a d**k.

You have a hard time getting all worked about RLS, so you have to bring up osteoporosis and hammer Erick for commenting lightly on that, even though he didn't.

Buzz off.
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It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones. -- Calvin Coolidge

Vladimir hammered Erik? How?

Speaking to Erick of osteoporosis, he wrote "You may find that "disease" amusing as well, since it tends to afflict inactive older women."
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It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones. -- Calvin Coolidge

DEFICIENCY in MAGNESIUM is the cause of MOST cases of RLS, but NOT ALL of them.

One lady thanked me very kindly for the advice but said she was going to her doctor the next day, and he would prescribe something appropriate, and he was also going to do a chemical analysis on her since a number of other prescriptions had already failed to yeild results.

A few weeks later, she told me the chemical analysis yielded the fact that she was deficient in Magnesium.

Rose

Restless Leg Syndrome is an outcome of another syndrome that I call "Big-Pharma's-Run-Out-Of-Big-Ideas-So-It's-Pushing-Crap" Syndrome. With do respect for the poster who's mom has "suffered" with this syndrome, these radio and TV spots are intended to make anyone who's ever had a leg jerk or spasm in their sleep to go their doctor and ask for a prescription.

I am so tired of drug commercials and their warnings... for people who can't sleep, people who sleep too much, people who can't pee, people who pee too much, people who can't get an erection, people to get too many.... - no, scratch that one - people with bloating, people with nail fungus, and so on and so on.

I'm going to have to depart from my natural free market capitalism bent and say that in this case I'm sorry the gov't lifted its prohibitions on direct-to-consumer drug advertising.

I've known far too many people who couldn't lay down or rest at night because of severe muscle cramps.

The first time I went snow skiing, myself and 5 of the people in our group had restless legs all that night - it was very irritating, and we suffered no pain with it, just jumpy legs, it was like being goosed all night.

But I now take magnesium regularly for my heart, because of an arythmia, so I don't suffer other types of muscle cramps anymore, except for occassional minor angina.

Is not what is being pushed as RLS. And those types of muscle cramps as you mentioned are typically from overuse (How long were you on the slopes?). Been there, done that, myself. When I first got into model-crafting hobbygames, I started spending 3 and 4 hours standing in one place without sitting at all. For 2 weeks or so, painful cramps. Muscles grew through use and cramps went away.

"I had restless legs all night after my first day skiing" is right along the same lines as "I have Exercise Enduced Asthma because when I run 2 miles or more, I breathe heavily..."

"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill

Anyone who's got any knowledge in this area knows that the proper term for this malady is "jimmy legs".

'Cause I'd prescribe the blues for that.

More seriously -- although that's a fine piece of history linked above -- perhaps there has been a new drug finally approved by the FDA, sparking a rush to lock up market share.

Or soon-to-be-licensed drug, as the case may be.

..by my Distinguished Colleague, I will not respond to him directly but will make a general comment.

My previous post attempted to compare & contrast RLS and osteoporosis:
- Both are medically recognized conditions.
- Both may have a lifestyle component.
- Both have treatments that are advertised on TV.
- Neither is caused by a bacteria or virus.
- Osteoporosis, in its advanced form, has debilitating effects that are obvious to the observer; RLS does not.
- Osteoporosis has a long name with Greek roots. "Restless Leg Syndrome" sounds funny.
- No one in their right mind would make fun of osteoporosis.

Slim, above, made a good point: maybe we should prohibit prescription drug ads in popular media. Some people are suggestible. My mom, though, was diagnosed with RLS at least 20 years ago.

So, who gets to decide if a disease is funny? All's I'm doing is advising a little circumspection.

Had you just asked that, instead of getting personal and setting that straw man on fire, you'd have been far more effective I believe.

Good luck,
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It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones. -- Calvin Coolidge

Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Now there's an illness I can't help but giggle about.

Banning people with a posting history of homophobia!

Scrape. Plop.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

I was getting ready to post about how it used to make me laugh too (rght up until I learned first hand how bad it is. Even so, when I think about it objectively, I have to smile). I mean, seriously, what is more pathetic than having to spend that much time on the toilet...?

"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill

he was joking too! That's hilarious!!!

-Miles Christianus
The U.S. Constitution - It's in there; look it up.

The majority of sufferers who have a chemical analysis done tend to be severely deficient in Magnesium.

Magnesium is critical to heart health and can reverse some heart arythmias, is critical also to preventing muscle cramps and muscle spasms, to keeping Calcium IN THE BONES and OUT OF SOFT TISSUE and thus preventing Arthritis. It is also a calming influence on the jitters. (Any of you aware that many heart meds are actually basically only CALCIUM BLOCKERS?)
Often, an injection can shut a heart attack down on the spot.
It also happens to be the mineral most asthmatics are most deficient in, and also a deficiency of it can cause hair to gray - however, balancing the Magnesium prolly won't restore color.

Meanwhile, synthetic medications (Prescription patents only available with synthetic ingredients) usually have side effects that you sure won't like!

Have everyone pay for their own drugs. It's amazing what kind of drugs people want prescriptions for when someone else is paying for them. I know somebody who is on two diabetes medications even though she does not have diabetes. Why? Because she knew other people who were taking them and wanted them. It wasn't hard to find a doctor who would give them to her. I believe she's on almost a dozen maintenance drugs with minimal health problems.

So here we have a marketplace where the only people who are involved in the decision to buy are those who do not have to pay for the purchase. Seems like a recipe for dysfunction to me. The drug advertising doesn't help, but it isn't the real problem, either.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

There's an interesting report on the peaceful imams who were just trying to mind their own business and not bother anybody here.

Highlights:

Witnesses said three of the imams were praying loudly in the concourse and repeatedly shouted "Allah" when passengers were called for boarding US Airways Flight 300 to Phoenix.

Passengers and flight attendants told law-enforcement officials the imams switched from their assigned seats to a pattern associated with the September 11 terrorist attacks and also found in probes of U.S. security since the attacks -- two in the front row first-class, two in the middle of the plane on the exit aisle and two in the rear of the cabin.
"That would alarm me," said a federal air marshal who asked to remain anonymous. "They now control all of the entry and exit routes to the plane."

The imams who claimed two first-class seats said their tickets were upgraded. The gate agent told police that when the imams asked to be upgraded, they were told no such seats were available. Nevertheless, the two men were seated in first class when removed.

Three of the men asked for seat-belt extenders, although two flight attendants told police the men were not oversized. One flight attendant told police she "found this unsettling, as crew knew about the six [passengers] on board and where they were sitting." Rather than attach the extensions, the men placed the straps and buckles on the cabin floor, the flight attendant said.

Hmmm... seems like those seatbelt extensions would make pretty effective improvised weapons... probably more effective than some banned items. I'm not sure why they even gave them to the passengers if they clearly didn't need them.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

Restless Leg Symdrome is a very real and very dificult problem to deal with. Try getting to sleep with your legs jerking every 2-3 minutes. As for only inactive people getting it....bunk. I ran track and cross country in high school, held the mile record in college, ran a marathon, biked numerous centuries rides, and backed packed over 100 miles in both the eastern and western mountains. I don't think that would qualify me as exactly the couch potato type. Might want to wait until you are old enough to have seen your grandkids and great grandkids being born before you start deciding you would never want to take meds.

Old Hokie

It's called "Overuse". As an athlete, you should know about the buildup of waste products in the muscles and the effects of them when you don't take proper rest periods.
If not, then you either didn't listen to your coach or had one that was trying to ruin your future athletic potential for the benefit of the win "Today"

"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill

Try again Raven. After leaving college all my running, biking and hiking was strictly for fun. I never again ran competitively, biked competitively, or hiked competitively (if such a thing is possible). Just your typical middle age guy trying to keep the weight down and my health up by doing the things I liked. Seems like just what all the scientific research recommends. As for coaches overworking us, not likely. Today's high school runner go through much more grueling workouts than we ever did running in college back in the 60's. I have a little experience with high school runners since two son's and a daughter ran in high school and my grandson is currently a high school CC and track athlete. Finally, I have never been more than 5 lbs over weight. Must be I was born under a bad star. Then again this might just be a real problem that us older folks know a little more about.

Old Hokie

I occasionally suffer from RLS symptoms. It's a weird, annoying sensation where I can only find relief by stretching/moving my legs. Quite frankly, I hate it. You would too. It comes and goes but it's not bad enough to see a doctor about so I haven't.

However, after reading some of the above posts, I will get some multi-vitamins that contain magnesium and see if that helps. Thanks to those of you who mentioned it.

I don't mind drug companies researching and coming up with new ways to treat medical conditions. That's what drug companies do. If it weren't for them, we wouldn't live as long and our quality of life would be worse than it is today. So why bash the drug companies for doing what we want them to do?

I don't necessarily like some of the drug commercials (Viagra, Cialis, et al) but my doctor knows what I need and what I don't need so I just trust him. I don't go to him with a list of meds I heard about on TV, but if I see a commercial for a product that makes me wonder, I just might ask him about it. After all, he's not going to prescribe it unless he thinks it's necessary.

www.scottbomb.com

Just thought I should note that it's only a single user who's advocating magnesium. You may want to check up on it some more before making a decision.

But multi-vitamins are usually a good idea. If they work, no need to look any farther.
After all, that fixed my circulation problem (needed one of the B-vitamins...).

"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill

 
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