The Sunday Morning Talk Shows - The Review

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Fred Thompson was host Chris Wallace's guest on FOX News Sunday, and he talked briefly of his tax cut plans. He's also not going to retool his campaign merely because Fred Barnes and Charles Krauthammer are unimpressed with the operation and the candidate.

Also on FNS, Carl Levin stressed the need for a "non-binding goal" calling for getting our troops out of Iraq. Lindsey Graham accused Levin and his fellow Democrats of trying to undermine the war effort, going back to the old strategy for political reasons.

On TW, 2008 GOP Presidential hopeful John McCain argued that the choice between human rights and national security, as mentioned by Abu Ghraib Sanchez and Hillary, is a false one. Next on TW, 2008 Dem Presidential hopeful Bill Richardson said that our troops have become targets and we should get out in a year.

On MTP, one of Russert's roundtables – Matalin, Murphy, Shrum, and Carville – sat around a table and argued in sound bytes.

On FTN, on of Schiffer's roundtables -- Robin Wright, Tony Zinni, Larry Wright, and Rick Atkinson – sat around a table and argued in sound bytes.

Finally, on LE, Mike Huckabee said that he'd strike into the Pakistani hinterlands without first seeking Pak's permission. He pledged to make the United States energy independent within a decade. He and Blitzer shared stories of Team Mitt's hijinks.

For the show-by-show review, check below the fold…

FRED THOMPSON ON FOX NEWS SUNDAY. Host Chris Wallace's first guest on FNS was 2008 GOP Presidential hopeful Fred Thompson. He talked about tax cut plans: keeping President Bush's cuts, killing the Death Tax, and he also backed the House Republican Study Committees suggestion for an optional "flatter tax."

Wallace tried to pin Thompson down on the abortion question, taking Huckabee's current position that simply repealing Roe v. Wade with a Constitutional life Amendment would be like allowing for 50 different States to kill babies to their own degrees. Thompson questioned which States would, if freed from Roe, allow for abortion on demand, and Wallace had a gotcha moment: the District of Columbia did pre-Roe. (The DC is not a State, but Thompson did not point this out.)

Thompson asserted that before he started running for President, Huckabee favored returning the power to regulate abortion to the States, the same position as Thompson has expressed. Thompson explained that a Constitutional Amendment would not now be possible; he'd sooner concentrate on what can now be done to save unborn lives.

Another gotcha moment for Wallace. Thompson's position was "exactly pro-choice," as he favors leaving the choice up to the States. Whatever FOX intern concocted that assertion should be sought out and fired. I've seldom heard more bizarre statements on this matter. One mustn't confuse individuals and their governments.

Thompson said simply: "If we can't win the argument [in opposition to abortion]," we cannot win the war and no Constitutional Amendment is possible.

Knocks on his candidacy. Thompson has no experience, which brought Thompson to ask: "Experience doing what?"

Wallace asked Thompson about his sliding poll numbers, and Thompson noted that this is the same sort of thing he heard when he first ran for public office, going from 20 points down to a 20 point lead. Wallace played clips of Fred Barnes and Charles Krauthammer saying that there was nothing to either Thompson or his campaign, and Thompson was unimpressed. Wallace became very defensive of FOX News.

"They're entitled to their opinion," Thompson shrugged. He cited a new poll which showed him moving from 4th to 3rd in Iowa, and he accused some commentators of "highlighting the negative." Wallace was defensive and he seemed to have trouble allowing Thompson to point out that National Review magazine has said that Thompson had "set the standard for policy" in this campaign.

CARL LEVIN AND LINDSEY GRAHAM ON FNS. Krazy Carl Levin said that the Iraqi government should keep their benchmarks in play. Levin does not expect them to meet their benchmarks. Levin wants to pressure Maliki. Levin does not trust Maliki even if pressured. Levin promised not to cut funding for our troops in Iraq, but he does want a "non-binding goal" of getting our troops out of Iraq by a date certain. This non-binding goal was in a bill passed by the House and held up by Senate Republicans.

Lindsey Graham accused Levin and the Dems of trying to undermine the war effort for political reasons, of trying to ignore General Petraeus's recommendations in order to go back to the "old strategy."

JOHN MCCAIN ON THIS WEEK. Host George Stephanopoulos's first guest on ABC's This week was 2008 GOP Presidential hopeful John McCain. The Republican contestant said that he was "very cautious" in his optimism regarding Iraq. Steph quoted retired General Ricardo "Abu Ghraib" Sanchez as complaining that there had been no political progress in Iraq and boasted that his old boss, Hillary, agreed with Sanchez. McCain explained that they are succeeding militarily and that there has been a lot of progress made of the re-Ba'athification front. He pointed out, as he had at some point in the very distant past, that there "are no Thomas Jeffersons in Iraq. Saddam killed them all."

Steph played a clip of Bill Richardson at some Dem debate blaming Halliburton for this, that, and the other while talking about how we should trade no human rights for any national security. McCain rejected the automatic blaming of Halliburton for everything, and he rejected that human rights vs. national security was a zero sum game. He called such thinking: "naïve."

BILL RICHARDSON ON TW. Next up for Steph on TW was Dem Presidential hopeful Bill Richardson, who explained that our troops "have become targets." Richardson said that he knows the region, he's met with Saddam Hussein, and he freed the hostages (not the Carter-Ahmadinejad hostages). He will have all of our troops out of Iraq in a year.

Steph accused Richardson of lying about the positions of the other Dem candidates on the Iraq war, to which Richardson replied: "My position is clear."

Richardson asked that the Democrat candidates not attack each other. He asserted that he, Bill Richardson, is "positive."

A PANEL ON MEET THE PRESS. On NBC's MTP, one of host Tim Russert's political strategists panels – Matalin, Murphy, Shrum, and Carville – sat around a table and argued in sound bytes about the 2008 election.

A PANEL ON FACE THE NATION. On CBS' FTN, one of host Bob Schieffer's book writer panels – Robin Wright, Tony Zinni, Larry Wright, and Rick Atkinson – sat around a table and argued in sound bytes about the Middle East.

HUCKABEE ON LATE EDITION. On CNN's LE, host Wolf Blitzer talked to 2008 GOP Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, closing on Romney "dramatically" in Iowa.

Huckabee said that Iowans are listening to the "substance of the campaign." He feels that he "touches them where they live."

Blitzer asked Huckabee about Pakistan and Musharraf, playing a clip from President Bush in which the President expressed confidence in Musharraf. Huckabee said that he would demand great accountability and great cooperation from Pakistan.

He called for the United States to take our priority targets in the hinterlands without Pakistani permission.

He doesn't think Israel should "give up the West Bank." (He would not, at least, "encourage" Israel to do so.)

Huckabee said that there would be no "Kumbaya moment," holding hands around a campfire and cooking marshmallows.

Wolf asked him how he would, as President, deal with the Saudis flogging a rape victim. Huckabee expressed concern about the House of Saud, asserting that we're "too attached" to Saudi oil, and we're now "funding both sides" in the war on terror.

Huckabee would make the United States energy independent in a decade.

Wolf asked Huckabee about some Team Romney hijinks. (Oh, they say things.)
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You know, it's amazing that the Democrats talk about "failed strategies" and all that...and then are more than happy to welcome in one of the chief engineers of the failed strategy to become their spokesman...at the very time we're fixing the strategy that wasn't working.

Who are they going to turn to next...Michael Brown to critique the Bush Administration's handling of the Southern California wildfires?

After Lincoln fired George McClellan, the failed general became Lincoln's chief political adversary...catcalling from the sidelines about Lincoln's failed leadership and securing the Democratic Party's nomination in 1864.

I think Bush has his Grant over in the Iraq theater right now. He now has his McClellan, too.

I was disappointed that nobody seemed to call Levin on his idiotic statements about how the lack of political compromise is a greater threat to stability in Iraq than al Qaeda or Sunni insurgents or Shia militias. Um, Mr. Levin, might that be because we're in the process of whipping al Qaeda back? I would think it is a good thing the only thing standing between chaos and stability is political compromise rather than angry mobs bombing each other.

General Ricardo "Abu Ghraib" Sanchez

IMO below the belt, even though he does appear to have crossed over into the camp of the Evil Ones.

Otherwise another bangup job in which hours of fluff and feathers are compressed into a ten minute read combining brevity and dry wit.

Do we have any word yet on the haul for Fred's online fundraising for Nov 21? I didn't get to watch FNS so I don't know if this was discussed. Also was he asked about expanding the military?

McCain, once again, reminds me that we have no finer spokeman for America's military. No matter his campaign's progress, I am counting on him to be an essential leader to inform the public of what our forces can do and what we owe them in return.

Mark- After a Christmas decoration emergency... yes emergency, I ended up out in my yard a bit longer than expected and only caught the last 2 minutes of the Thompson interview. Disclaimer- I am a Thompson supporter.

I have been slowly drifting away from FOX News the last year or so, probably since the election coverage really began. With friends and family in the media, I'm always told that FOX News "Fair and Balanced" will still lean left when given the opportunity. In addition, I'm a bit fed up with the constant coverage of celebrity and missing persons news. Its not that I don't have a heart, but I need to closely monitor my TV watching time. I always thought that FOX would be the one exception to the constant catastrophe/celebrity indescretion/missing person coverage.

Well today, I think I've had it and you pointed out why, I was unable to come up the my exact feelings until I read this from you...

Wallace became very defensive of FOX News... Wallace was defensive and he seemed to have trouble allowing Thompson to point out that National Review magazine has said that Thompson had "set the standard for policy" in this campaign.

This was absolutely unprofessional. I wish to God that Fred had run a perfect campaign, not that I think anyone else has, but I know he has made mistakes just like them all. However, the all Guliani, all Romney network all the time seemed to sink to a new low during this interview. I felt it was previewed as an opportunity for Fred to lay out his tax cut plans, but instead it was just Chris Wallace trying to throw any information at Fred that he felt he could to make him look bad. He was eager to point out his colleagues opinions of Fred, but was not willing to hear Fred's opinion or what others such as the NRO had to say. BTW- The other night on FOX News, NRO was cited by one pundit (I'm sorry I don't remember who) as the most influential conservative blog in the country. (I like Red.State.Com) Nevertheless, apparantly someone at FOX thinks NRO is worth reading.

If FOX News is in fact a tad left-leaning, then maybe we now know why they dismiss good conservative candidates like Fred Thompson. This is not a smear on Romney or Guiliani whom though they don't have my support now, I will gladly vote for them if need be.

Amazing too, that Wallace tries to get in a good "gotcha" about abortion but Fred did a great job reinstating his Federalist view point on the issue. The idea that the fed should not be deciding this issue (Federalism) is something even our brightest FOX News analysts simply don't even understand. I don't think I've heard the word "Federalism" on FOX News once in the last year. The man is 100% pro-life, his approach may be confusing to those on Fox News, but I get it.

I don't know if Fred Thompson can win this thing, I sure hope so, but the idea that he is doing things differently, not kissing the behinds of the media pundits may be something for future candidates to consider. I'm rather liking the fact that these guys are being called out and shown for who they really are. I liken this to sports commentators and journalists, they seem to forget that we watch or read because of the sports, the players, the highlights, not to hear or read them.

I am not suddenly anti-Chris Wallace, I think he has his place on the news, but maybe he should stick to commentary and not interviews in which he is not able to hide his personal bias.

Kudos for Fred for calling our FOX News this morning, if he is going to be on these shows more, I hope he keeps it up. Last I checked much of the country distrust the media as Fred seems to.

The way that it went down IMO is Chris showed the Fox contributors, Fred Barnes & Charles Krauthammer, express their unfavorable opinions of Fred Thompson's candidacy. Then Fred B*-slapped Chris for showing only Fox News point of view, and offered contributors to National Review & Investor's Business Daily as examples of pundits with favorable opinions of his candidacy. After that Chris had a big grin on his face as if he liked getting B*-slapped, and he shook Fred's hand thanking him for appearing on the program. It is not personal, but anything that attracts attention, including getting B*-slapped, helps the ratings and helps the bottom line $$.

Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

FDT--the fact that he doesn't kowtow to anybody who thinks Fred ought to do this, that or the other. He has done well by doing things his own way so far, and I think that is what rubs so many of the pundits the wrong way. They are accustomed to seeing the candidates jump when it's pointed out that someone or other, or a new poll, says that they muffed some position point. Fred doesn't jump. And I thought he did well this morning. Don't know if I have just gotten used to his habit of saying, "Uhh.." so much or if he has at least narrowed the space in between "uhh" and the next word.

I usually like Chris Wallace, but he sure seemed defensive this morning.

Oh--and may your decorating emergency be singular and not include smoke and fire engines!

"I always thought that FOX would be the one exception to the constant catastrophe/celebrity indescretion/missing person coverage."

It was always my understanding that FoxNews started the phenomenon of picking a random missing person and running with it for weeks or months. I started a policy (around the time of Ms. Chandra Levy) of changing channels whenever those stories come on. It was then that I realized that Fox covered these stories more than the other news stations.

Fox has always been a bit populist (and popular for it). I figured the ludicrous stories you mention were part of that populist streak.

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and my wife is the biggest fan of the network of whom I know. Every night when she's feeding me Boost! through a tube -- a temporary endeavor -- I put the network on the bedroom TV for her. Greta van Susteren.

Greta cut her teeth with CNN during that O.J. Simpson murder trial. This past week, at night, I've learned about Lacey Peterson and her husband and everyone involved with that as well as some arrests in the Natalie Holloway case.

It's what many people want to see, so give them what they want and it creates revenue and jobs.

As for Wallace being defensive about FNC, it's nothing new. Many of the hosts do defend the network to a great extent, but Thompson's point was that the world does not begin and end with FNC or wtih Fred Barnes & Charles Krauthammer.

Now, Fred said "National Review," not NRO. I'm not sure which he meant.

but they are good on the Iraq War/War on Terror.Molon Labe!

My entry was focused more on Fox and Chris Wallace. I do think Fred handled himself well and the idea that he bslapped Chris was well put. I did think he changed his facial expressions a bit after Fred was finally able to get his two cents in, I just don't think it should be that hard to get in a comment on your defense.

XMAS emergency= whatever project my wife "needs" me to do during the months of November (late), December and January. No smoke or fire engines, just a big old snow globe in my front yard that decided to puke out some of its snow.

Yes, Wallace got too defensive at the end--particularly when he was so defensive that he was talking over Fred. But what I want to see in an interview is for the interviewer to bring up the attacks and step back and let the candidate respond, then come back in and hone the answer. For the most part, Wallace did that today, particularly on the Huck and Rudy stuff. I think they could have done more on the tax plan, but this was an interview FULL of great Fred stuff.

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Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

of winning this nomination. That could change, but so far, he is not in good shape. Attacking Fox news seems like a desperate move, kind of a Nixon thing.

Molon Labe!

that Fred supporters are huge fans of Fox News anyway. I know I've grown tired of many of their offerings. Sure, it's better than the other MSM, but only marginally so in many cases. It's more entertainment than news. I'd rather watch Star Trek Enterprise reruns for my entertainment.

I'm also aware that there are many undecided voters out there that get their news from Fox. We'll have to wait & see whether or not that comes into play.

Fred08

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I like Hannity (sometimes), Beltway Boys, Cavuto, Hume, and Red Eye. I would never watch trash shows such as Greta. What we need is a type of NPR with a conservative bent. also, it is interesting that the most conservative cable channel I know of is CNBC, at least during the day.

I like Fred on the issues, I just think he needs to get very serious very fast. Rudy and Romney want this very badly, they will do whatever it takes to win. Fred needs to beat them or become a sidenote.

Molon Labe!

He's the best IMO, of an unbalanced look at important events while being more of a traditionalist for America than a conservative.

"Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America's self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant."-Ann Coulter
Pitbull of the VRWC.

It just looked like whining to me.

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