"Pro-Life" Kansan Leadership Hopes to Kill Real Pro-Life Legislation

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Kansas is a very pro-life state. And Kansas has pro-life Republican leaders in the state's General Assembly. But, those pro-life leaders are not actually committed to the pro-life cause -- they just like to call themselves "pro-life."

The legislature adjourns tomorrow and if the residents of Kansas don't act today or in the morning, the legislature might fail to pass the Comprehensive Abortion Reform Act ("CARA").

The legislation would clean up fraud and abuse in the Kansas abortion industry. It would require abortion clinics to report cases of child abuse and incest. Likewise, it would require full disclosure of the risks of abortions before one can be had, as well as giving women the option of hearing the child's heart beat before choosing to kill the child.

Governor Kathleen Sibelius vetoed the original CARA, but when the Senate held the veto over-ride, a key Senator was not in town that day. The Senate President held the veto over-ride in bad faith, knowing that it would fail.

The sponsor re-drafted the legislation to meet the Governor's concerns and the pro-life coalition in the Kansas legislature is working to get it passed.

Standing in the way are House Speaker Melvin Neufeld, Senate President Steve Morris, and Senate Majority Leader Derek Schmidt.

If you live in Kansas you can and should take advantage of Kansans for Life's action center and demand passage of the CARA.

Or, you could just call 1-785-296-0111 and demand to speak to Melvin Neufeld, Steve Morris, and Derek Schmidt. Tell them to either pass CARA or stop calling themselves "pro-life."


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And you wonder why there are so many conservatives that are just about fed up with the Republican Party.

Passing this law will hurt the state's image, as well as waste several million dollars by sucking up resources and distracting the state AG's office defending the law through multiple appeals.

The legislation would clean up fraud and abuse in the Kansas abortion industry. It would require abortion clinics to report cases of child abuse and incest. Likewise, it would require full disclosure of the risks of abortions before one can be had, as well as giving women the option of hearing the child's heart beat before choosing to kill the child.

I'm seeing that as worth the cost.

And how exactly will it hurt the image of KS. I mean, all you guys *already* think Kansas is a backwards, hayseed redneck haven.

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

State AGs are charged with investigating whether a particular gas station is charging too much money (i.e. price gouging) and whether cell phone companies are being unfair by enforcing the legal contracts that customers signed.

They don't have time for the frivolous stuff like identifying and prosecuting child molesters.

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

You want to know why pro-life radicals hurt the Republican Party? Have a look at this site, linked to by a poster below:

http://www.dr-tiller.com/

Full of rants and raves and creepy stalker photos of a Kansas abortion doctor.

That bunch has NOTHING to do with me , what I said, or 98.4% of Republicans and/or conservatives.

While conservatives have our weirdos, they are on the fringe. The lefties have their kooks RUNNING THE PARTY. dKos, Code Pink, ACLU, George Soros, and pro-abortion zealots who make OUR zealots look like kittens.

So, blow that pro-life radicals hurt the Republican Party stuff right out your talking orifice, pal. You got nothing.

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

They are always..Zugzwang.

"It is a pointy stick, and I need to stop myself from wielding it, does RS no good and is not good manners."....steveLA

You have the power to read the minds of half the country? Wow!

Actually the people of Kansas, by electing a Democratic governor , showed a lot more sense than the people of my state in reelecting Arnold.

Also Nancy Boyda is one of my favorite Congressmen. We need more moderates, women, and scientists in Congress, and she is all three. Definitely the best looking member of congress as well!

See here:
http://www.nancyforcongress.com/

Nancy Boyda is my Rep., and I can't wait to vote against her!!! She's certainly no moderate as she's in favor of the huge tax hike. Sebelius got in office because our party screwed up and hasn't run a serious candidate against her. Sour grapes. We'll just see how much the state of Kansas loves her when she runs for the Senate in 2010. She's burned a lot of bridges with her asinine stance on global warming and being a stooge for Kansas' own Dr. Mengele Dr. George Abortem' All Tiller. You should really stop speaking out of your @$$ about Kansas unless you want to look like a total fool.
Tim Schieferecke

What are the particulars of the bill, and what are the objections of those opposing it? Those would seem rather important to me before taking a stance on this bill.

It might just be my political cynicism talking, but when those things aren't being brought up in an action bulletin, I start wondering why they're not.

"No matter how much lipstick you put on the taxation pig, it's still a pig... and it's currently snout-down in your wallet." - Michael Fisk

To find out about the KS CARA bill go to the Kansans for Life web site at www.kfl.org. kansaskat

I don't see any specific wording of the bill, just some statements that border on the hyperbolic. I'd like to support this effort, but I'm not seeing much in terms of concrete details from either side.

"No matter how much lipstick you put on the taxation pig, it's still a pig... and it's currently snout-down in your wallet." - Michael Fisk

Here is what I believe is the bill in question.

Makes a bit more sense about the importance of some of the provisions, but I can also see a couple of grounds of contention from the bill's opponents.

1) Civil libertarians will argue that the record-keeping provisions of this bill (in particular, the amended K.S.A. 65-445 sections (c) and (f)) are too onerous and the penalties for violating the privacy of these records are too lenient.

2) The injunctive relief procedure outlined in the amended K.S.A. 65-6703 Section (i) has potential room for abuse at the hands of a particularly overzealous state official. Abortion providers in the state will probably make the argument that, should the governor or attorney general of the state become an individual with extremely strong pro-life views, that they could theoretically file for injunctive relief on literally every abortion.

3) The procedures outlined in the amended K.S.A. 65-6709 sections (h), (i), (j), and (k) could be seen as being an undue burden on the business of abortion providers, with sections (i) and (j) being the most puzzling (especially as (i) is somewhat redundant with the more potentially significant section (h) in place ahead of it).

As the bill stands, I would be led to support it with minor revisions, or possibly qualified support. Overall, it makes sense, but it could be cleaned up a bit from its present form still.

"No matter how much lipstick you put on the taxation pig, it's still a pig... and it's currently snout-down in your wallet." - Michael Fisk

The "potential of abuse" line won't cut it. All enforceable laws have the potential for abuse. The whole reason for the revised bill was to allow the laws already in place to be enforced. Anything less would not allow them to be. For years, the law had not been, and tougher means of enforcing the law were and are necessary.

Abortion centers get away with all kinds of violations under the guise of "privacy." Pet stores are held to higher legal standards. Had this been a true medical issue about a doctor practicing legitimate medicine, the "clinics" would have been shut down long ago (along with most of the others in this country).

If we were dealing with real doctors who lived up to their role in society and worked to save lives and heal people, this law would not be necessary. It is inherently impossible for anyone who has such high disregard and hatred for human life to live up to proper standards of medical care. It is incredibly sad that people only want them to have MORE protection than real doctors under this nonsensical and stupid guise of "privacy," a concept that in no way could realistically apply to abortion.

As far as the "undue burden on abortion business," I wish it were so. They surely do deserve any and every burden law enforcement will pile on them! Unfortunately, that will never happen. The pro-death majority in Kansas won't let it.

It looks like we have a lot more Democrats than I remember a few months ago.

Unfortunately, the truth is that Kansas is NOT a pro-life state. In every poll I've seen from the state, the majority favor abortion. If you want a pro-life state, look southeast.

Still, it would seem anyone with half an ounce of common sense would support those simple regulations and their full enforcement. Not even a so-called "moderate" could oppose that. By no means is this trivial or unnecessary, and there is no legitimate reason to oppose it especially if it is going to be voted on anyway.

Kansas is in an unusual position as not even places like New Jersey or California have third trimester abortionists. Even most of the liberal European nations don't! Most states don't need laws and special enforcement to deal with such a situation.

The Kansas Senate recently came up two votes short in overriding Sebelius' veto of CARA. But during the last Senate elections in 2004, ProKanDo had fundraisers for the express purpose of electing pro-abort Senators:

http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-03/2004.htm

In 2004, Tiller's ProKanDo PAC also funneled money to two PACs to knock out prolife senators and elect proabort senators:

* Connections between mysterious "SDC PAC," founder of the Oz Museum in Wamego, and Dr. Tiller in Wichita?
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2004/11-27b.htm

* Kansans for a Moderate Government:

Who's behind the mysterious Kansans for a Moderate Government PAC? http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2004/08-11.htm

Dr. Tiller hijacks education issue: Channels secret money to influence Kansas Senate Races in 2004.
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2004/10-30.htm

Tiller has given no money directly to Sebelius in her 2002 or 2006 elections, but gave her money in earlier years:
http://www.dr-tiller.com/tillers-governor.htm

BUT in a complicated scheme, Tiller gave $100,000 to the Democratic Governor's Association (TIller was chair last year), which was returned to Kansas:
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/10-03/2006.htm

This same scheme was used to funnel $200,000 of Democratic Governor's Association money to Kansas to Sebelius' Blue Stem PAC, which Sebelius used to fund County Parties, State Reps, and various Democratic Party candidates, including herself:
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/01-14/index.htm

This was only part of a much larger scheme to funnel money to Kansas for Democrats to buy Kansas:

Kansas Democrats Use Congressional District Party "Committees" as Political $uperfund To Pump Money to Kansas Democratic Party, Sebelius, Morrison and Pollsters (What to do when writing one check for $40,000 to the Kansas Democratic Party would be illegal? Write EIGHT checks!)
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/01-23/index.htm

In 2002 Tiller signed a ProKanDo fundraising letter to support Sebelius:
http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/Issues/ProAbort/ProKanDo/TillerLetter-Pr...
http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/Issues/ProAbort/ProKanDo/TillerLetter-Pr...

BUT, in a political bait-and-switch, Tiller used this money to attempt to defeat Phill Kline for Kansas Attorney General.

In 2006, Tiller did out Kline as Attorney General spending $1.2 million. About $800,000 from his ProKanDo PAC:

The ProKanDo PAC raised and spent more political money than any other Kansas PAC, but wasn't listed in the top 20 PACs in Kansas in 2006?
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/08-20a.htm

And about $400,000 from a Kansas non-profit that refuses to file IRS non-profit forms (e.g., IRS 990 or IRS 8872):

Integrity of Kansas Elections Less Important to IRS than "Privacy Rights" of Groups Abusing Non-Profit Laws
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/11-16.htm

So, Tiller "owns" the Governor, who appoints members of the Supreme Court nominating Commission,

Updated Political Profile of Members of the Kansas Supreme Court Nominating Commission: Still 6 Democrats, 2 Republicans, 1 Republican for Moore
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/12-16.htm

This Commission usually only gives Sebelius a set of liberal candidates for appointment to the Kansas Supreme Court:

Why did a Kansas Supreme Court Justice Change Political Parties? Will Justice Luckert's husband's political contributions ever cause a conflict of interest for her?
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/12-04a.htm

Members of the Supreme Court nominating Commission are Sebelius' contributors, and two spouses of Supreme Court members have given Sebelius money.

Sebelius also appoints members to the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts, which protects Tiller:

Members of Kansas Board of Healing Arts Gave Nearly $25,000 to Gov. Sebelius' Campaigns
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2008/03-30.htm

Our courts are out of control and make up laws as they go along, such as the recent case that was sealed for months needlessly:

Why all the secrecy in the Kansas Supreme Court?
Will Phill Kline survive a legal/political battle with the Supreme Court in a secret case?
http://kansasmeadowlark.com/2007/12-04/index.htm

Tiller and Democrats have bought Kansas. Our laws don't matter any more -- they cannot be and will not be enforced.

The following should have said "Sebelius was chair last year":

"BUT in a complicated scheme, Tiller gave $100,000 to the Democratic Governor's Association (TIller was chair last year), which was returned to Kansas:"

 
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