"The Most Ethical Congress In History"
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The House has been roiled in the past few days by allegations that Democrats were abusing their power over the chamber. This incident will do nothing to alleviate tensions:
House Republicans sought to rebuke Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) Friday night for his actions while presiding over the chamber earlier in the day.
The resolution was just one of the many protest measures Republicans lobbed at the majority Friday to protest the contested outcome of a separate vote Thursday night that dominated the House floor all day.
Members quickly voted along party lines to ignore the resolution, offered by Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio), sidelining GOP attempts to embarrass the Pennsylvania Democrat.
And House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.), who repeatedly rose in defense of his party throughout the day, shouted, "Enough is enough," when confronted with yet another protest measure.
Republicans were criticizing Murtha's actions in the chair when he opened the House Friday morning. A sizeable chunk of GOP lawmakers had gathered early to oppose the vote on a daily measure verifying the official House record from the previous day. They hoped to block the official record in order to protest what occurred Thursday.
Sitting in the chair, Murtha overruled GOP requests for a recorded vote to approve the previous day's record despite an overwhelming majority of Republicans in the chamber, even though rules dictate the party with the majority can force a vote.
Rep. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (D-Wis.) then rose to challenge Murtha's ruling, asking, "Could the chair tell me how many members rose to request a recorded vote and [the] total number of members present in the House upon which the chair made his decision?"
To which the Pennsylvania Democrat replied, "It is up to the chair. Let me tell you this, the vote will show that the approval would be approved by the House, as it has been."
More below the fold . . .
Sensenbrenner is actually a Republican. And let's go to the video:
(Video via Mark Kilmer.) How very "ethical" all of this is.
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I'm not interested in an ethical Congress but an a moral Congress. An ethical man knows that sleeping with his neighbors wife is wrong, a moral men doesn't.
Who passed laws that the Constitution gave them the authority to pass, and then left the other stuff to the states where it belongs.
The last thing I want is Durbin, Murtha, Reid, Pelosi, etal applying their idea of morality to me.
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in the executive where actions can be taken in secret, but not much in the drafting of laws. Why? Because we can read their product and judge that. What matters is the law as written, not the motives of those that write them. If a congressman lies to get elected, we can vote him out. If we loathe the laws they pass we can vote them out.
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"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
I've linked to Rep. Blunt's speech here. Simply put, this better get people working for a GOP majority. It's time we learned the lesson that Ronald Reagan frequently mouthed: that "our 80 percent friend isn't our 20 percent enemy." It's time we learned that (a) we won't get everything we want & (b) that we lose bigtime when we take our ball & stay home.
This is the price that was predicted often last fall. Should we hold candidates to conservative principles? Absolutely. Should we throw a ton of them overboard in the general election? Not when we can keep the majority & throw them overboard in the following cycle's primaries.
...just needs to be done better. We can't have our side ripping our own up one side and down the other, then watch them somehow win the primary, but be mortally wounded for the general... if we're going to primary people, we need to do so by saying "Here is why this new candidate is a better person with better ideas to uphold our ideals." Anything else is defeatism.
"I don't understand why the same newspaper commentators who bemoan the terrible education given to poor people are always so eager to have those poor people get out and vote." - P.J. O'Rourke
to weigh in on what a great idea it is:
Here, at least, is one guy who is happy with pushing "divided government."
I only went through two pages on my Google search. More will follow.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:OZ0sN6fVmWYJ:www.redstate.com/story...
and comment #16 here http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:qB1sLv0autcJ:www.redstate.com/story...
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
I will even confess to a certain interest in seeing a more divided government. I still stand by it.
Our guys had forgotten how long they were in the minority. They had forgotten why they were put in the majority. Finally they were too busy triangulating on being democrats lite to push the conservative agenda.
Now they are getting a little dose of reality. Apparently for some like senator Specter its not enough yet. Well perhaps we can see he gets a personal reality dose next election.
Sorry Streiff the republican Majority failed. It was too concerned with being a permanent majority and maximizing the value of its position. And Yes, it had the potential to be more dangerous than AQ ever could
So until we can install swords hanging by threads in congress, or congressional aides who's job will be to remind the critters they are still just barely human, we will have to settle for tossing them out every so often.
P.S. Despite my desire I voted a solid R ticket. You can't hold people like me responsible for the miserable candidates like Katherine Harris.
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You know this will lead the news tomorrow. /snark
I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.
So, far this week we have had:
1. The vote the Republicans won on barring funding for illegal immigrants in the Farm Bill, but the Democrats didn't like the result so had votes changed after the vote was closed. I think Mr. Blunt did a nice job of responding the next morning.
2. The objections of Mr. Boehner being ignored and overruled on a point of order that clearly was proper.
3. The Congressional Record was overtly altered to omit the above listed event that I listed in number item number two.
4. Then as Mr. Murtha gaveled the session open he ignored the obviously present Republican majority in the chamber, and despite losing the vote to approve the Congressional record that contains the above listed white wash in item number three, he deliberately declared his own version of truth to be so.
The lessons learned: You lose elections because you forget to dance with the one who brought you, and bad things happen. However, this is even beyond the pale of what I thought would happen. I expected the Republicans to be screwed over being in the minority, but I never imagined that the rules would be totally ignored by the majority. Maybe I am that naive, but I am stunned.
I am not being snarky or sarcastic when I sit back and let you know that I am a bit aghast at this level of boldness in ignoring the house rules.
Simply - oh wow!
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