Valerie Plame: Tangled Webs, Pants On Fire, etc
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Valerie Plame Arrives At Hearing With Security Detail
John Podhoretz at NRO’s The Corner has the most priceless vignette from Valerie Plame’s testimony in which she explains how her hubby ended up in Niger even though she says "I did not recommend him, I did not suggest him, I did not have the authority." (Let’s leave aside the Senate investigation to maintain that willing suspension of disbelief).
An officer serving under her was upset to have received an inquiry from the vice president's office about yellowcake from Niger and evidently, while she was comforting that junior officer, some guy walked by her office and suggested her husband should go to Niger to check it out.
She said she was ambivalent about the idea because she didn't want to have to put her 2 year-old twins to bed by herself at night. Still, she and the guy who had just happened to walk by then went to her supervisor.
Supervisor: Well, when you go home this evening, would you ask your husband to come in.
Then her supervisor asked her to write an e-mail about the idea. She did so. That e-mail, she said, was the basis for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence claim that she had been responsible for sending her husband to Niger for the CIA.
In other words, she didn't recommend him or suggest him. Rather, it was a guy who walked by.
If that is how the CIA works, it certainly solves a helluva lot of mysteries about US foreign policy failures.
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"then I left the room."
Silly stuff.
It's just a lot of smoke. No matter how much the MSM would like you to think its fire.
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...you're forgetting...the legal analysis by these experts. :-)
From:
Ben Affleck: Bush 'Can Be Hung' for 'Probably' Leaking Plame's Name
by Brent Baker, April 8, 2006
NewsBusters.org
http://newsbusters.org/node/4815
EXCERPT:
Bill Sammon, Washington Examiner: “A lot of critics are conflating the two and are saying that because Bush disclosed this piece of information, they're implying that Bush leaked the name.”
Ben Affleck: “He probably also leaked the name. There's just no proof of that.”
Sammon: “Even the prosecutor, even Fitzgerald is saying Bush didn't leak the name. So let's be clear, Bush didn't leak Valerie Plame's name -- not that we know of.”
Affleck: “Because if he did, you can be hung for that! That's treason!”
Bill Maher: “That is treason.”
Affleck: “You could be killed. That's not a joking around Tom DeLay 'I'll do a year, I bribed the state officials with corporate money.' That's like they shoot you in the battlefield for doing that. Don't you think we should find out who leaked that name?”
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On Letterman, Al Franken Jokes About Execution for Treason of Rove, Libby and Bush
by Brent Baker, October 22, 2005
NewsBusters.org
http://newsbusters.org/node/2424
EXCERPT:
David Letterman: “The feeling was that this report made the administration's decision to go to war look bad-”
Al Franken: “Right. So they wanted to smear the guy who came back with the report, and so they out his wife and said she sent him there. This is essentially, you know, George H.W. Bush, the President's father, was the head of the CIA and he has said that outing a CIA agent is treason.”
Letterman: “It is treason, yes.”
Franken: “And so basically, what it looks like is going to happen is that Libby and Karl Rove are going to be executed."
[audience laughter over Letterman’s response]
Letterman, in mock indignation: “What? What! Really?”
Franken cautioned: “Yeah. And I don't know how I feel about it because I'm basically against the death penalty, but they are going to be executed it looks like.”
"... why anyone thought getting my husband out of the country was my idea. A guy walking past suggested it, and who was I to stand in the way of a tidal wave of support like that?
"If I thought about this at all, it was wanting to serve my country by comforting that junior officer who was upset. My husband didn't have to be out of the country for that, but it was more convenient."
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believes that tripe.
No wonder she's had a desk job for the last ten years. She's not a good liar, not at all, and it's certainly not for lack of trying.
Was that alarm going off in the background during testimony someones BS meter? Oh, you say they don't have them in Congress?
Frankly, the facts are fairly simple to follow and the committee looked foolish just sitting there soaking up this nonsense.
At the end of it all, this bites them in the pajamas.
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Was that alarm going off in the background during testimony someones BS meter? Oh, you say they don't have them in Congress?
Of course Congress doesn't have a BS meter (at least an audible one) because Lord knows that the thing would never shut off.
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...was how upset the Democrat congresscritters got when Victoria Toensing tried to answer back to their speeches. Shades of Richard Ben-Veniste and Condi Rice.
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We would also like to know your advice for somebody like my daughter, who's going to graduate in two years, advice that you would give a young person.
SEC. RUMSFELD: Advice for a young person. Study history.
I know, I know, I'm a chauvinist pig, but would someone tell me where in the world Ms. Plame would go undercover to? Was she covert in Morocco? or in Senegal? I mean, was she there to learn the dark and dangerous streets of Copenhagen? Man that was one crazy disguise, let's put the bleached blond socialite undercover in Karachi and watch her work.
"We make war that we may live in peace."
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about the applicability of blond jokes. Kinda like the Senate Judicial Committee and lawyer jokes.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Where in the heck is that prosecutor who got Libby indicted and convicted???
at Langley, giving out diplomatic assignments.
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Does "some guy" have a name? Or is that the name?
Or did no one bother to ask?
The "guy" obviously works at the CIA. Even if not officially covert his name probably isn't something the CIA would appreciate being put out there. That is how this whole mess started in the first place... I'm reasonably sure if this individual was fictitious and she lied UNDER OATH about the incident that would be reported somewhere.
Remember, she claims they BOTH went to her(?) boss about the suggestion. That means four people have knowledge of this first hand. I can't see her telling such a blatant lie. Something very similar to what she describes probably happened as strange as it may sound or she's really stupid. Given that she risked her life as a NOC operative in foreign countries I'm tempted to believe she isn't and the CIA doesn't think so either.
I'm reasonably sure if this individual was fictitious and she lied UNDER OATH about the incident that would be reported somewhere.
Where would this be reported? As you say, that's "how this whole mess started in the first place".
That means four people have knowledge of this first hand.
And if none are known to anyone but her, what's the danger any of them will be called to testify before Nostirls' committee?
I can't see her telling such a blatant lie.
Her hubby spun a very tall tale on the OpEd pages of the world's newspaper of record in the run-up to a war. What makes you think Secret Agent 006.9 wouldn't stretch the truth before a friendly committee and with a fawning media? Especially when you consider that no one is likely to be called to contradict said statement before said committee.
Something very similar to what she describes probably happened as strange as it may sound or she's really stupid.
Like streiff said, either way it goes a long way toward explaining the CIA's craptacular performance lo these many years.
Given that she risked her life as a NOC operative in foreign countries ...
And actively and heroicly labored to undermine the elected leadership of her own at a time of war. Quite a gal, our Val. A Medal of Freedom in a future Democrat administration is certainly hers for the asking - in addition to her 7-figure book and movie deals, of course.
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So libs, how's that Congressional Resolution to end The War™ coming along?
It's not a stretch to say that she and 4 have been so reinforced in their thinking over the past three years as to believe that she can say literally anything and be believed. That's been the history so far.
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We would also like to know your advice for somebody like my daughter, who's going to graduate in two years, advice that you would give a young person.
SEC. RUMSFELD: Advice for a young person. Study history.
basically they have told enough lies, and they have gone unchallenged outside blogs and a few op eds, they probably think at this point whatever they say is the truth, even if it is in conflict with other evidence.
ignorant enough or drunk enough to agree with anything in your post.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Haven't you been paying attention? We can't SAY his name because if we do, that will be 'outing' him and we can all be executed for treason!
Some guy walked past our cabin, and he.......
"You never need a firearm,until you need it BADLY!"
behind closed doors. Testimony under secrecy or seal before Congress is hardly unusual.
I wonder if the guy who strolled by was the same person who handed off fake documents about Bush's military service, or was it another no-name. In any case unnamed but convenient persons are becoming a staple of Democratic imitation scandals.
Already it's becoming both tiring and farcical.
Catch a person once in bull---- and at least have the shovel ready for the next load.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
be honest are you really buying her "some other dude did it, and the CIA didn't tell the 9/11 commission about it" defense?
Give me a break.
I will believe her SODDI defense when she produces the dude and he is a real dude.
I know, it's hard with the media fawning over the leftists like Plame, IV, etc. We have for so long been required to disable our Are They Joking? Alarm™, that it sometimes doesn't get up to full speed quickly enough, but I can assure you, his tongue was squarely in his cheek.
I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.
I didn't say there was another guy, but on the unlikely chance there was he could be named. No one in Committee will suggest closed doors testimony and we both know why. I thought my reference to the mysterious hand off of Bush's records would have been an indication of the mockery her testimony deserves. You must allow for a little satire, irony, and sarcasm in this game otherwise it's no fun.
Plame and her fat, greasy husband are both liars, of that there can be no doubt.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
that's what happens when you browse left of center blogs, and read over and over again how Plame demolished the "Plame recommended her husband" point with her SODDI defense.
Believe me it's understood much more often then not.
I've had some fun at a leftist site over the past few days on the Plame thing, one we've both visited. But time wasted on the self delusional is time wasted twice over. on the left that is.
The trick is not to take them too seriously which is where mockery, sarcasm, etc, come into play.
Signing off on this one.
First response didn't take, this may appear as double post, sorry.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
"behind closed doors. Testimony under secrecy or seal before Congress is hardly unusual."
Unless leaked to the NY Times by someone who answers to a higher calling than their oaths to protect classified material, lots of Lefties fall into this category.
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a Friday chuckle...very nice.
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