Paul to GOP: Why don't you Neocon Constitution-haters like me?

Is it the hat? Or the McCain bashing?

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Representative Ron Paul, Republican nominee for Congress in Texas district 14, believes there is a 'New Right' conspiracy against him in the GOP.

Despite the fact that he shifted effort from his Presidential campaign to ensure he beat the mainstream Republican, Chris Peden, in the Texas 14 primary, and that he still has neither endorsed John McCain for President nor even acknowledged that he needs to work with McCain to ensure Republican victory in November, Paul thinks the burden is on the party to come to him.

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Says the Washington Times:

The Texas congressman says neither he nor his supporters have heard from Mr. McCain or Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan since March 4, when the Arizona senator accumulated enough delegates to clinch the party's presidential nomination.

"I don't think they want them," Mr. Paul told The Washington Times, adding that indifference doesn't surprise him because the party's establishment has deserted traditional conservative principles for big government and foreign intervention.

"We don't agree with them," he says. "We agree with the Old Right, and they're the New Right, which is 'The Wrong,' [because] the New Right has morphed into neoconservative."

Look, Congressman, it's very simple: You have sold yourself as a Republican to the voters in your home district. They believed it, but the rest of us are not bound to do the same. After all your outlandish rhetoric this campaign season, the burden is on you to prove that you are back in the fold by endorsing John McCain for President. Just take that one step, and that will prove we can work with you.

Had you won the Republican nomination, surely anyone who failed to back you would have been relegated to Republican in Name Only status, and been held up for mockery and attack. The time has come for you to hold up your end of the deal and avoid that fate. Nobody will ask you to campaign for Senator McCain, though it would be nice of you to do some outreach to your supporters. Just ask your supporters to vote for him, though, in one simple, unambiguous statement. I have no connections inside the national GOP, but I have to believe that is all anyone wants.

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Is Ron Paul a modern-day Lowell Weicker? Is it time to resurrect BuckPAC and campaign for the defeat of a Republican just to purge the Party of a blight?

I think that we should look into getting Peden on the ballot as an independent and get a campaign together to urge that Republicans withhold votes from Paul. Even if it means the Democrat wins, this is one of those districts that we probably could reclaim in 2010 anyway.

I just wish that the Party had the ability to remove Paul from its ballot line after forcibly removing him from the Party.

At this point I'd rather just boot him from the caucus. It won't change his votes but it should keep him off of any committees, and help beat him in the next primary.

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Ron Paul would win by acclaimation! He isn't a horse's [redacted]. He is the el supremo [redacted] de Ceballo.

"I believe we must adjourn this meeting to some other place." - The last recorded words of Adam Smith.

Anybody up for trying to get a legitimate libertarian conservative to oppose Paul on the Libertarian ticket? Worst case scenario is that neither wins and we get the seat back either way in two years...

"No matter how much lipstick you put on the taxation pig, it's still a pig... and it's currently snout-down in your wallet." - Michael Fisk

and his statement should talk about fighting earmarks and sustaining vetoes as well as protecting fetal life. It could actually sound a lot like Coburn's endorsement.

I think the RP wing of the Party is a good thing. The Rs have gone a long way from fighting for small government. If the Party fully abandoned the religious wing, they wouldn't just accept it and not fight. If the Party changed the platform to endorse abortion and gay marriage, there would be a fight.

But the Big Government wing has been in charge for at least 7 years if not a decade. It's beyond time that someone stand up and fight against it. I think McCain has done that within the system and Paul has done it as well.

If Paul doesn't run as a 3rd party candidate, then I accept that he is interested in expanding his wing of the Party rather than attacking the Party. And if he wants to spend his time and money trying to win primaries for RP small government types, that's his prerogative and would probably be good in some places.

I'd take Ron Paul over the corrupt earmarkers in a lot of districts. And if his supporters have any chance of appealing to non-traditional Rs, then I'd be fine seeing them run in lean D districts. There is a Paulite guy running against Moran in VA-08. Works for me. Maybe he can do better than a traditional R in the inner suburbs that go 65% for Kerry.

I'm not a big fan of the effort to run out the Paulites just as I don't like the effort to run out the Hucks or the Snowes. That's the whole point of a big tent that has a chance of 50% in this country.

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From one of the more revealing factcheck.org articles:

After endorsing Reagan for president in 1976 and again in 1980, Paul became disenchanted, leaving the Republican party in 1987. The following year, he told the Los Angeles Times:

Paul (May 10, 1988): The American people have never reached this point of disgust with politicians before. I want to totally disassociate myself from the Reagan Administration.

Paul's disaffection started early in Reagan's presidency. "Ronald Reagan has given us a deficit 10 times greater than what we had with the Democrats," Paul told the Christian Science Monitor in 1987. "It didn't take more than a month after 1981, to realize there would be no changes."

Why he's still hanging around after the Bush admin and after the party has supposedly been taken over by evil... who knows, but I'm sure it's a conspiracy. The reptilians are making him do it.

Let me give you some advice Congressman Paul, losers walk. When we played football in the yard, if you gave up a touchdown you had to walk to the end of the field for the kick off. You were disappointed in failure, but you acted like a man and accepted the defeat. It wasn't with bitterness, it's just the way the game is played.

It's not up to the winner of the contest to call you. The loser is the one who calls first to congratulate the winner. So swallow that pride, pick up the phone, give Senator McCain his due. Otherwise you end up looking not only like a loser, but a petulant child as well. I really like a lot of the small-l libertarianism (not the gold standard or your foreign policy stuff, but the less government, less taxation and less regulation stuff) and I don't want to see them leave the party.

You like to think of yourself better than Gov Romney, Gov Huckabee or the others who already called on their own and offered congrats to our nominee?

Remember, losers walk.

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The supporters of ronpaul had to be the most annoying people on earth. Every political board seemed overrun with them and they literally closed a few sites. They caused regular posters to refuse to even look at some of the (very few) good things about paul.
I had never seen such immaturity from a political group before.

If, as you've argued before, Ron Paul loves communist butchers, and you "hate him", why in the world would you want him endorsing McCain?

Are you sure you wouldn't prefer to see McCain repudiate and denounce such a person, and decline his endorsement, were any given? What do you think it would say about McCain if he accepted an endorsement from a man who loves communist butchers?

The voters of Texas 14 saw fit to re-nominate him, so I believe the party is obligated to give him a chance not to be a RiNO.

But personally I hope he never does [endorse] McCain, because then I can wale on him all day long.

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Why waste words on a loser like ron paul? McCain needs to name a vice president and then start earnestly attacking the braying jackasses on the other side. Hillary is a delusional liar for thinking her time in the wh counts as experience and osama obama is an arrogant racist along the lines of LF and JJ and AS. Murtha backing Hillary makes as much sense as Kennedy backing MJK.

So on one hand, you believe that Ron Paul loves communist butchers.

But on the other hand, in exchange for his endorsement of McCain, you believe he should be allowed "back in the fold" of the Republican party anyway - well, not just allowed, but that the Republican party is obligated to take him back?

So if I interpret your last sentence correctly, you are worried that if he did endorse McCain and therefore was no longer RiNO, that you could no longer assert your beliefs about him, his love for communist butchers and so on? It seems to me that just because he might assume the (R) label doesn't necessarily mean you should stop pointing out whatever terrible aspects you see about his character and the positions he holds... why would you suddenly be silent in your expose of a man you believe to be so deeply flawed, just because he's in the Republican fold?

But you can attack RiNOs without becoming a RiNO yourself.

It's a tightrope, that's for sure.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire

If you have a problem with me, let's be direct about it. Can the weasely sarcasm.

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If Ron Paul is a racist troofer who does not deserve to be in the party, he is a racist troofer who does not deserve to be in the party even if he endorses McCain and asks his delegates to support the nominee in a show of solidarity.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire

He doesn't deserve to be in the party. He is though, the primary results decided that, and I have to deal with it. I can either leave, or play by the rules. I choose the latter.

Had he been nominated nationally, for President, rather than in Texas 14 for Congress, I'd have considered the former.

Heck, had he been nominated for Congress in California 45 rather than Texas 14, I'd have had a tough choice on my hands.

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If Paul does the right thing with respect to McCain, I will try to hold my fire until after the election. Once he's in office, he'll again be fair game. But if he's being a good Republican, and compromising with me (and all other Republicans) in order to help me achieve what I want, then I'll get out of his way in the Texas 14 race.

That's life in a coalition.

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If I stop attacking Paul, that's not me compromising on my principles any more than his endorsing McCain is a compromise of his principles.

To endorse McCain would be a significant departure from his campaign rhetoric, which is why I could go halfway and quiet down about him.

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Given your previous statements on Ron Paul I would have guessed it might take more than a mere McCain endorsement for you to stop informing the public of your deeply held concerns regarding the man's character.

For example, a call for him to renounce his love for communist butchers would have seemed to me to be the least of what it would take before someone who had done the analysis you have felt that the Republican party is obligated to take him back into the fold.

Merely endorsing McCain wouldn't absolve Paul of such holding such beliefs, and I would guess you, and many others, might be concerned that a full "brand Republican" Ron Paul who continues to advocate the positions and character traits you've attributed to him and who publicly espouses ideals rooted in such traits would be seen as toxic to the brand.

The possibility of McCain actually accepting an endorsement from a man who loves communist butchers, and a subsequent embrace of such a man by the Republican party, strikes me as political suicide.

Fortunately the only people who actually know that Ron Paul believes, but don't like John McCain, tend to be people who consider Paul's debate performances to be strengths, not weaknesses. :-)

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Well, this is as good a place as any to drop this.

Check out the guy on the right....

Senator McCain, Senator Lieberman, and .... Carmen al-Miranda??

A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have - Thomas Jefferson

Most of his support has come from his vilification of the Party of which he is a member. He now walks upon a tightrope, between alienating his most ardent supporters by endorsing McCain and alienating the R's who make it possible for him to continue his crusade by not endorsing McCain. I think it's time he goes into his closet, moves aside the stacks of gold bars, and dusts off his politician's hat.

If he truly feels he is a Republican (which I have to assume, given his refusal to run third-party), he needs to quit attacking his party and start explaining which of his campaign points makes him a true Republican. Then, he needs to go to John McCain with his dusty hat in his hands (stuffed full of delegates), and offer his endorsement. In exchange, John McCain should reiterate the points with which he agrees with Ron Paul. The purpose of this is to say to Ron Paul supporters, "Ok, Ron Paul is not going to be President. Still, I agree with 60% of the good doctor's positions, rather than these two other people who agree with 5%."

See, Ron, this is called playing ball. You've sent two different messages with one single statement. You've endorsed the Republican candidate, while at the same time saying it's the Republican ideals with which you agree that you're actually endorsing. The people walk away hearing what they want to hear, you get the national spotlight pointing at your (less crazy) positions, and John McCain gets the support of some of your supporters. Everybody wins. All you have to do is just play ball...and don't forget your hat.

That would be Georgia's Rep. Paul Broun, whom Redstate endorsed a few days back in his primary fight against establisment republicans.

There's an outside chance that Ron Paul loses his own primary fight. All the millions he raised for president with the likes of www.StormFront.org backing him cannot be used for his congressional primary fight. If he got desperate, he could keep up the guise of running for president in his district, name recoginition is name recognition afterall.

Just take that one step, and that will prove we can work with you.

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