SOTU Thread
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Just a couple more hours. The speech excerpts have been delivered. Heritage will be live-blogging. So will we.
Have at it here.
[UPDATE:] Now that you've heard President Huckabee's Bush's State of the Union speech, hear now the conservative response:
Likewise, Jeb Hensarling and the Republican Study Committee in the House are calling on all GOP leaders in the House to give up personal earmarks. They are not, however, holding their breath.
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IS IT THE ROLE OF THE POLITICAL PARTIES TO DESTROY EACH OTHER AND CONSDIER THEIR ADVERSARIES TRAITORS TO THE REPUBLIC, OR IS THE ROLE OF THE PARTIES TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER AND THROUGH THEIR ARGUMENTS IMPROVE THEMSELVES SO THAT THEY CAN SERVE THE COUNTRY BETTER.
AS AN INDEPENDENT i GUESS I CAN BE CONSDIERED A TRATIOR BY BOTH SIES FROM TIME TO IME BUT i AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE MENTALITY WHERE IF SOMEONE BEILEVES DIFFERENT FROM YOU THEY ARE STUPID OR IGNORANT OR WORSE?
IS THERE NO MIDDLE GROUND WHERE WE AS A COUNRY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FURTHER THE REPUBLIC OUR FOREFATHERS FOUNDED FOR US?
Where in the world are you coming from and what do you think you are responding to? All caps makes your comment almost impossible to read.
Looks like he missed some of the I's.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
To not capitalize an I.
"If this ain't a mess, it'll do until one shows up." -Sheriff Bell, No Country For Old Men
The purpose of a primary is to whittle down candidates so that the best two are chosen.
Independents always complain about the fighting during primaries.
Independents always complain about lame candidates in the general.
You can't have it both ways.
I agree that the word "traitor" should be used very very sparingly.
P.S. If you want to be taken seriously, stop "yelling" and correct your spelling.
This is a serious question.
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You need not ask again. The answer to the first sentence of each of your bold paragraph is "yes".
Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies...
Senator Barack Obama, who, like Lincoln is from Illinois, will usher in an era of good feeling by ending the bitter partisanship in Washington. His message of hope and change coupled with optimism on American future will inspire a generation of Americans, like J.F.K., to stop fighting the culture wars of the sixties and get Americans to understand that there are no real issues in America worth fighting for, instead, listen to Obama and he'll make it all right. Like Dr. King, Senator Obama is a prominent black political leader who appeals to all races and denominations through inclusive rhetoric. Like Ronald Reagan, Obama is on the vanguard of a new way of looking at politics and government that will transform the political landscape. Like [insert favorite log cabin president], Obama has an inspiring life story, and can connect to ordinary people's problems. The greatest orator since Cicero, Obama's speeches make you believe in America again. He will stop all the cowboy diplomacy by talking to America's enemies, and make them understand we wish them no ill will. Obama will get the insurance companies on board to provide health care to every American. He will get America to formally ratify the Kyoto Protocol, end our dependence on foreign oil, and get the economy back on track. While expanding health care, President Obama will also cut the deficit and provide a middle class tax cut, all while encouraging economic growth. The politics of hope will triumph!!!!
And wherever men are fighting against barbarism, tyranny, and massacre, for freedom, law, and honour, let them remember that the fame of their deeds, even though they may be exterminated, may perhaps be celebrated as long as the world rolls round. ~ Winston Churchill
What daft maddness this whole Obama thing is. He is an empty suit with promise of hope. Jimmy Carter the 2nd, only this time he is black and less experienced (at least Carter was a Governor). All this garbage about diplomacy shows how blind to the lessons of history the left truely are.
Tell me that you are being tongue-in-cheek, that the MSM narrative you are parroting is in jest.
I've pieced together from gushing op-eds and my fellow college students.
And wherever men are fighting against barbarism, tyranny, and massacre, for freedom, law, and honour, let them remember that the fame of their deeds, even though they may be exterminated, may perhaps be celebrated as long as the world rolls round. ~ Winston Churchill
The State of the Union is a perfect example of this. Despite the daily media frenzy, The political battles, the polarization, Nancy and Dick are standing at the Rostrum of the House, side by side, doing their duty. Our Constitution is the middle ground. :)
madam speaker, these words i dread
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -Thomas Jefferson
Not surprising really.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Susan Collins hits up GWBush for and AUTOGRAPH on his way in?!??
A new low.
"Strength and Honor."
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity."
Did you think about not trying to turn corn into fuel ?
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
10 dollars to whoever can count the number of times nancy blinks during the speech
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -Thomas Jefferson
because we just got hit by a big snowstorm and we could use the hot air to melt the snow!
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
but in reverse.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Good for him! Wish he had done the same with earmarks.
He started the show by stating this was the President's seventh and final SOTU Address. How does a President serve eight years and give seven addresses? That math shouldn't be too hard off the top of one's head. George W. Bush did give the 2001 address, add 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07 and 08 and that is eight.
Eight years went by in what seemed like seven to poor Brian. I take it time under Bush must have been flying by rather than dragging on for him.
Or is that for the guy that feeds the teleprompter?
"Honor is self-esteem made visible in action." - Ayn Rand, West Point, 1974
What is this http://www.thisnation.com/library/sotu/2001gwb.html?
Are you suggesting there are years where we just don't have a SOU and 2001 was one of them? I though the Constitution mandated one every year, at least in writing to Congress.
"Honor is self-esteem made visible in action." - Ayn Rand, West Point, 1974
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
Is it just me, or does Hillary look like she fell asleep in a tanning bed?
While Obama looks vacant.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
I love watching Clinton look around to see if it's ok to applaud.
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
supporting junk lawsuits.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
They may be carrying the party unity a little too far
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Not even Kennedy clapped at the NCLB line - what a creep
Awesome! All that endorsing has tuckered poor Kennedy out...
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
Thankfully even the R's couldn't applaud that.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Seems to contradict the "get rid of bloated programs" line doesn't it?
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
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So who was that next to Kerry reading a book during the speech? Was that Mikulski? Geez if she's going to read during the speech she should just stay home
My love for FOX just increased, the more democratic senators they show sleeping 10 minutes in, the better.
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
So the democrats could frown at it.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Huh? That's not in my thesaurus under "dictator."
McCain and Romney people can both rejoice and groan at the same time.
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
and other greenhouse gasses
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Supporting democracy cant get the Dems off their butts but greenhouse gases does
New Orleans......Proud to Swim Home!
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -Thomas Jefferson
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
GW, allthough great guy; is in no way indicative of all Texans.
we got paved roads, automatic car washes and microwave ovens just like every other state.
that is the lot of a lame duck.
Man, the Prez just sounds dreadful. I just wonder how people can think that he has that much relevance anymore.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
So Dems are against cloning human life but they are in favor of ending innocent human life?
Why doesn't you blank support this.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -Thomas Jefferson
and I am sorry for misspelled words I did not use spellcheck unfortunatly, but since independents who are generally considered little girls who are easily swayed by diehards of both parties and are only useful in general elections, I ask does every republican idea work for all situations just if I asked the diehards from websites like daily kos does democratic ideas work in every situation?
Personally I feel instead of yelling at each other. and questioning our motives that we try to learn from each other the best we can so we can do better at making this country great. Unfortunatly it appears that the true goal is to destroy each others ideas so that one wins over the other which in the ned I believe makes us weaker. But what do I know, I am an independent i don't stand for anything so the diehards of each party says
You seem rather partisan for a moderate.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
So yes, I think conservatism is better than liberalism, that ideas matter, and that countries in which liberals dominate turn out to be cesspools.
If someone wants to live in a liberal country, there are many options.
The U.S. is the most conservative option, we don't have anywhere else to go.
Estonia I believe has a flat tax and is primarily run by chicago school of economics principles.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
but in terms of overall freedom, the U.S. is still the better option.
Moreover, if the U.S. became like the liberal E.U., states like Estonia would cease to exist as the Russians would imbibe them.
the U.S. was #4 or #5. #1 and #2 were Hong Kong and Singapore---countries that do not have western style individual rights.
Economic freedom is an important type of freedom, but it is not the only component.
Oh let's all come together. Hear's a news flash goverment united does horrible things to it's own people and the world. Hitler won with 90% of the vote in a nearly fair election. The communists came to power on the shoulders of the massed hordes behind them. Weren't those great united systems of goverment great?
There are real distinctions in the political debate, and most of the bi-partisan ship we get is more pork. The agents of goverment conspiring against the citizenry to aquire more power and spend more money. This is exactly what conservative do not want to happen.
Bush is hitting hard on real points. The Democrat response was flat and just a repeat of that "kum bi ya" come join us line the liberals feed out. Cooperate, but only to promote thier horrible agenda.
Yeah for New Orleans.
New Orleans......Proud to Swim Home!
"Saving SS" - like that will ever happen with the Dems in charge. They will continue to defend the status quo until SS is bankrupt then they will have the ultimate justification for the mother of all tax increases
Whats with the R side not giving it up more.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
That's because she's too busy reading her program. She could at least have the decency to pay attention during the president's speech.
that’s a script staff prepared from the advanced copy of the speech telling her when to applaud, when to stand, and when to turn into a pillar of salt.
As Rush would say, "Right on, right on, right on..."
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
Surprising how many of the supposed "anti-war" lefties stand and clap supporting the WAR in Afghanistan
Way to go! "They have the gratitude of our whole nation!" Amen!
That must just kill the Dems to have to stand
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Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
From Daily kos point of view you are all fascist Totalitarian traitors that enjoys torturing happy people from the middle east in guantonamao bay, according to redstate, democrats are communist sympathisers who wants to give cold lemonade to the same people in the hopes of understanding waht we did to make them hate us.
So i ask is the country stronger by going to war against each others beliefs, or is the country stronger by trying to understand why they come up with that point of view so that by learning from each other we can improve ourselves and be better as a whole even if we still disagree with each other.
If that makes me a partisan then i plead guility
When some of the Founders wanted a Bill of Rights and others didn't, should they have compromised with a watered down version of the Bill of Rights?
And if you ask them who the speaker of the house is you might get Tip Oneil, or the wife as an answer.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
I don't need to have a personal dialogue with Kos to understand the liberal point of view. They favor government solutions to problems, we favor individual solutions to problems. They favor higher regulation to punish business, we favor the invisible hand to unleash the power of the market. In short, they favor collectivism, we favor individualism. If you think problems are best solved by governments passing laws and rules and regulations, then vote for the Democrats. It really is as simple as that.
My guess is that if we fiddle around as a country and try to understand our enemies, we won't have much of a country left, or at least one we recognize. Don't want to sound like a warmonger, but don't mind if I'm identified as one, but the best thing we can learn from our enemies is how to defeat them. Have you ever noticed there are a multitude of countries and cultures that we get along with really well. And we probably learn something from them from time to time. The ones we "go to war with" are not our friends and that's not the fault of the USA.
Hammer it home George!
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Took a moment before the lefties decided they would stand & clap for that one
He doesn't have any real support in the room, but he keeps on plugging.
NCLB
Humane immigration policy
SS and entitlement reform
Its kind of like watching a punched out fighter, still swinging even though there is nothing on the punches. Say what you want about GWB, he's not a quitter.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
The Dems stand on the "support our troops" line, but not the "fully fund our troops" line. What the hell did Bush mean? Send them e-mails and homemade cookies?
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
When I was a child I used to count the letters and words in the program to pass the time...
no joke, hope she has a baggie of cheerios and goldfish. Grow up, Pelosi.
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
So far it looks correct but its a tough sell.
I think he almost got the D's to not applaud defeating the enemy
He needs to mix it up a bit more to catch them off guard
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
I'm serious. She looks like she's been holding back tears since the beginning. No political point here - I'm just wondering...
recycled material from the last 7 SOTU's?
Just substitute crisis x, enemy y, energy independence has been the same since Nixon.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Used to be cancer.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
A very prescribed form.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
but it seems like the SOTU addresses in the last 20 years have just gone through the motions instead of ensuring, inspiring, informing, and invoking the people to be proud of the country they live in instead of rehashing everything you hear on the evening news.
Just saying.
political parties to be in open warfare against each other instead of trying to learn from each other to make a better country?
Once again....you should never compromise your principles or beliefs
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What will it take for them to realize that they are on the same side? (differences in opinion aside)
When it comes to letting you, as an individual, living your own life, they are NOT on the same side. Liberals will only let you live your life the way you see fit if they first pre-approve of your plans.
They are not on the same side ?
You are quite the optimist.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Dave, quit spamming this thread.
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
I shudder to think what next year's Hillary SOTU will be like...
"We surrender in Iraq"
"We will take over your health care"
"We will punish business on the altar of global warming"
"We will give out tax money like it's Christmas every day"
and of course
"We won't do a damn thing about entitlements"
Pre Planned or just politicians are very good at musical chairs ?
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
it is never right to compromise your beliefs so the college textbooks say. But I believe that viewpoint means if someone disagrees with you they are automatically wrong. But what if theose who oppose you are not automatically wrong is it better to stil stick to your beliefs, or examine the beliefs of others and to question if you have not figured everything out yet on your own. Just because you examine other peoples beliefs dosen't mean you betray yuor own beliefs rather by doing so you strength your own convictions.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
As a wise man (streiff) once said, around here, we like to keep the liberals on the other side of The Big Ditch so that when we catapult burning rocks and boiling oil on them, we don't get any splattered on ourselves. Now buzz off.
Blam.
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You read about beliefs in a college textbook? I learned them from my parents, life expirence, and personal education. Thats how you develop principles and beliefs, not from some textbook.
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You just keep repeating the same stuff. You never respond to what anyone else says.
If you want to repeat the same stuff over and over in a room by yourself, you should do that.
I would suggest not doing it.
Most conservatives have a core set of principles that they won't violate. This doesn't mean that liberals don't have positions they would consider "principles", but to conservatives they seem poorly reasoned. Witness the liberalism most college students exhibit and how they develop into conservatives later in life after they've had the experience and acquired more knowledge. There are many prominent conservatives who were democrats or liberals when they were younger - Ronald Reagan, Bill Bennett, and PJ O'Rourke come to mind. How many prominent liberals can you name that started out as conservatives?
The right generally knows where the left is coming from because a good portion of them may have been leftists earlier in their life. You'll see most conservatives refer to liberals as ill-informed or misguided when they don't agree with the left's policies or positions. However, the left doesn't seem to understand the right at all, and as such you'll see more personal attacks from the left than the right - take a look at any message board at the DailyKos versus here at Redstate and see which one contains more personal attacks on the opposing party.
Enjoy the hangover!
Which one is it really? There is a limit to how much value you can get out of fundamentally flawed philsophies (like socialism). We want results. The free markets work. Freedom works. Individuals are much better at making thier own choices and being responsible for them than having them made for them and not experiencing the consequences.
I'm about as moderate as you get around here and even I think you're barking up the wrong tree.
Have you tried posting a "compromise" post over at Daily Kos? They'll shred you to bits over there! These guys here are being nice to ya.. don't push it.
That said.. if you even listened to Bush's speech tongiht, he asked for a lot of bipartisan support on stuff. Did you actually listen?
"Why can't we all just get along?" you ask.
To pick the first illustration that comes to mind, George H. W. Bush acted in the spirit of bipartisanship when he went against his campaign pledge of "No new taxes." He supported the Democratic Congress's tax package.
He lost reelection, and the Dems shivved him for reneging on his pledge.
Every time a Republican reaches across the aisle, he pulls back a bloody stump.
These are not honorable people.
I hope that explains our position. Now go away.
There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. - Frank Zappa
It was fun to watch the room on that one....
and I am sorry but Hillary is so incredibly disrespectful, I expect such behavior from Teddy, but she is running for president for crying out loud
MelZ
Was it for God Bless America or just thanks the speech was over and they could stop calculating when to applaud ?
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
So who's the Dem response person? My bet, it's Cindy Sheehan
The governor of Kansas? How cynical - yeah get a token D red state governor to claim to speak for the whole party
The governor of Kansas? How cynical - yeah get a token D red state governor to claim to speak for the whole party
Oh this is interesting, from vote-smart.org:
Governor Kathleen Sebelius REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO PROVIDE ANY
RESPONSES TO CITIZENS ON ISSUES THROUGH THE 2006
NATIONAL POLITICAL AWARENESS TEST WHEN ASKED TO DO SO BY
Key national leaders of both major parties including:
John McCain, Republican Senator
Geraldine Ferraro, Former Democratic Congresswoman
Michael Dukakis, Former Democratic Governor
Bill Frenzel, Former Republican Congressman
Richard Kimball, Project Vote Smart President
Do you have a link ?
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
before he can even get off the rostrum. Tough crowd.
Not sure about you, but I was inspired. Not.
More Big Government programs to invade more areas of everyday life. A veritable shopping list of invasive ideas and tax sucking proposals.
Not much to look forward to in the next 4 years either.
Man, I'm bummed out lately.....
P.S. The Beltway Boys are getting real tiresome
Wasn't Sebelius the idiot who claimed that the reason why response to some Kansas tornado was "so slow" was because all the KS National Guard was in Iraq? Gee, don't blame the weather, blame Bush
You'd have to be in favor of victory first
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -Thomas Jefferson
Translation: Will you cave to our liberal demands?
She admits it - SCHIP is just the "first step" towards "overhauling" and "reforming" the health care system!
Join us? Shut-up! This woman has no charisma, how did she get picked for this. Join us...makes me sick. I hope nobody is buying this crap.
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
It's like watching a train wreck, and I just can't turn the channel.
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
Well she's definitely a "progressive", a.k.a. socialist. She believes in the power of government to "help people" and she wants government to "transform America". How the good people of Kansas ever elected her is a mystery to me.
The fact that you are tuning in means you are a likely voter.
Who stood and who sat what does that mean ? well are they drones.
I want to address you all as Americans (American is code speak for sucker)
Now she goes on to the change memem
Our struggling economy which one is that ?
We can get the job done (Meaning you the taxpayer can pay for it and our friends can get it done at a very good mark up)
Make our businesses compete by eliminating the burden of healthcare (Oh the sector isn't going to get paid ?)
Kansans are building green ? Ready to protect our environment ? So you have done something about all the fertilizer run off from the ethanol production ?
Kansas national guard can't focus on the real problems and enemies ? I believe the military can cast an absentee ballot.
The foreign policy has left us with fewer allies and more enemies would you care to enumerate ?
Ahh great its another multigenerational politician. Is this a congenital birth defect ?
Try the long term fix for people making bad decisions let them bear the consequences.
Choices made and challenges unmet ? Sounds like the mortgage crisis.
Somehow when a Democrat speaks of the common good it always seems that punishing a lot of individuals is involved.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
"Make our businesses compete by eliminating the burden of healthcare" - this is a standard D argument when speaking to an R audience on why they should support socialized health care - because it's an argument that businesses actually support (they would love to free-ride on this one) and D's stupidly think that R = worship of big business. They will never get it - we don't support socialized health care because we don't want you running our lives!
Is by eliminating health care. What they mean is change who pays for it.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
like Anna Gesuyer (okay that is probably way off-former SNL character). If you close your eyes it sounds EXACTLY like her nude-Martha Stewart holiday skit.
MelZ
For real! I can just hear her talking to Alec Baldwin about his "schwetty balls!"
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
Mr. President, won't you join us for some schwetty balls?
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
They asked him if he the Senate can accept the Presidents plan to halt earmark spending. He said that the Senate didn't spend any more last year than the President said they should.
Earmarks are alive and well. :(
to the Democrats after the speech - something they haven't done in the past. Do they know something is coming down the pike?
--roxer
"Where I stand does not depend on where I'm standing."
--Fred D. Thompson, 2008
They have had the rebuttal, Mitt Romney and John McCain on.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
don't see them having discussions with Dems right after the speech. In the past they have show the Democrats response and then go into discussions with the panel. They included dems this time round in their questioning.
--roxer
"Where I stand does not depend on where I'm standing."
--Fred D. Thompson, 2008
Its going to take a lot of people with BDS becoming carbon neutral for him to get a fair shake from those writing the histories. But it will happen. Give it time.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Praises the presidents earmark initiative
State Liberals have to be as fiscally responsible as conservatives.
Then Praises the surge.
What a brilliant move.
Any Hillary counter reaction is going to seem like age old dem talking points.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Hillary's next commercial will be..."Obama supports President Bush's policy"
New Orleans......Proud to Swim Home!
while he can rise above the politics of division
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
I hate to think he might catch conservative cooties.
I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.
Because as I was watching and approving I thought to myself that this is what Huckabee would probably be like. A compassionate conservative with strong Social Conservative roots and a folksy manner that makes you want to follow him. Huckabee has put it in such a way that I can never vote for the man. Compassionate Conservatives days are over, all because the messenger decided that he only needed a portion of the So-Con vote. Would he have been able to compete otherwise? Probably not. But still a shame.
One more thing. Bush is the Man, and I am proud I voted for him and for his strong leadership.
Go ahead, make your jokes, Mr. Jokey... Joke-maker. But let me hit you with some knowledge. Quit now.
-White Goodman
Was getting out of work. What I heard sounded like a mixed bag for those of us who are conservative, & the responses from those who listened in entirety bear that out.
Pandering on global climate change? Greenhouse gases? Break, please! Of course we should be good stewards, keep the place clean (I need to vacuum), & use our resources efficiently. I didn't hear anything about drilling our own oil or increasing refinery capacity.
Spending a lot of money on new programs & increasing many existing programs, not what we want to hear while there is other talk of fiscal responsiblity. I didn't hear the economic stuff, can we please have more tax rate reductions???
Good on the war & national security. Not that good on immigration. When the large communities of illegal aliens of all nationalities are gone, we can talk about guest worker. How about more border patrol agents who won't get in trouble @ the behest of the Mexican government if they do their jobs?
Regarding some of the other "can't we all just get along?" posts: The political battle is in the arena of ideas. Some ideas are good; some are bad. The idea is for the good ideas to win out & be implemented, not the bad ones.
a great line which I think caused no little squirming across the USA. We're not taxed enough? Let every liberal take Bush's words to heart, instead of denigrating it, which is more likely.
And may conservatives not forget it when the whining gets too much to bear.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
He understood within seconds of the second WTC tower being flown into that we were at war with evil, and he hasn't wavered for one second since in defending this country on all fronts.
He understands that We the People rule.
He has liberated 50 million.
He will be revered in history as a great liberator, transformer of the Middle East and defender of the homeland.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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you can go to c-span for pre SOTU coverage including the seating of the Senate, Supreme Court, and the Cabinet. They also keep the cameras running, so you can watch Nancy and Dick chit-chat.