An Army of Cyborg Davids, or something like that.

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Rusty Shackleford has a good idea -- an Army of Davids (will the Ron Paul groupies hate the neocon language, I mean clearly this is a David v. Goliath metaphor and David was, well, *whispering* a Jew) to take on the Jihadists in Cyber-Space.

it wouldn't be like an Army of our Davids vs an Army of their Davids. No, it would be more like an Army of Davids on our side vs a brigade of incompetent fools who should have been paying attention in hacking 101, but instead were too busy doing advanced research on whether or not it is harem or halal to wipe with the right hand.

He links to a Max Boot post on the same subject. That wouldn't be a bad idea actually.


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... this would be wrong. America is better than this. How can we maintain our moral position if we stoop to these kind of tactics, denying the jihadis their constitutional right to operate and maintain their sites preaching hatred of Americans and teaching people how to attack us. We are better than this Erick.

We ought to be helping these people; show them how to create websites, teach them to use advanced Java and Javascript techniques, sophisticated programming and methods of spreading worms and virii. Only by extending the hand of friendship can we hope to have them see the error of their ways.

John
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Why would God invent something like whiskey? To keep the Irish from ruling the world of course

I recently spent 16 hours trying to remove (250) unwanted; Trojans, Malware, downloaders, spambots, hijackers, adware, (you know the drill) from my wife computer so I wouldn't have to reformat the hard drive. My brother is a computer tech and his advice was; "You can spend all day trying to get rid of that crap and it'll be back tommorrow, reformat the drive and spend the day reloading the programs and drivers and you'll at least be good for a couple days or weeks."

Frustrated, (I have four kids ranging from 12-21), I asked how I could prevent this from occurring again. Answer; "You can't, the hackers are developing new ways to attack you hourly and a lot of them are working outside the country! Tough luck bro, deal with it like the rest of us."

Yeah, it pisses me off, I wish my enemy had to monitor his system like I do, so when you type google in the address bar you don't end up on a porn site. I have to put up with that crap. I hope pig fat and porn rains down on him too. Hell, I'll not only call for a porn jihad on the islamists by the hackers, I'll contribute to the cause. I hear Larry Flint believes in sexual freedom, what a perfect place to expound your ideas.

Give me an address I'll send a check.

"The only way to negotiate with your enemy, is with your knee on his chest and your knife at his throat." - Anon.

O.K. stupid read the text closer. Damn! No tone of voice on the net or the snark would have smacked you in the face.

Sorry jsteele, should have known better. Wish there was a sorry I'm stupid button, commenting would be faster and simpler.

"The only way to negotiate with your enemy, is with your knee on his chest and your knife at his throat." - Anon.

" in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years."
Abe Lincoln

Thanks for rubbing it in. But hey, your right, what can I say it was a clean kill.
"The only way to negotiate with your enemy, is with your knee on his chest and your knife at his throat." - Anon.

I've done it myself..

" in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years."
Abe Lincoln

It's especially galling when you hit the submit button and while the comment is uploading the light bulb goes on. Oh well I've been tossed out of worse bars than this.

"The only way to negotiate with your enemy, is with your knee on his chest and your knife at his throat." - Anon.

.. i kind of liked it. You were really rolling there for a minute. But please don't hold back, tell us how you really feel :-)

John
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Why would God invent something like whiskey? To keep the Irish from ruling the world of course

I hate to say it, but your brother is either incompetent or burning you. With the following steps, I've been free from viruses and spyware for years.

Use Linux. You can download a bootable CD image and try it without installing anything. If that's too scary, read the rest of this for how to stay safe using Windows.

  1. Use Firefox. It's a free download, and will always be a free download. Don't use Internet Explorer except for Windows Update and other trips to Microsoft-land (and wash thoroughly afterwards).

  2. Install an anti-virus program. There are free ones, but I don't use those. Use McAfee, Symantec, or whatever; which one is personal preference.
  3. Don't go to porn sites. It's not good for your computer.
  4. Download, install, and regularly run Ad-Aware or some other spyware remover. It isn't hard.
  5. If you must download games, screensavers, etc, run Ad-Aware every time you install one of those.
  6. A fool and that which is not backed up are soon parted.

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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.

I'm doing all the above in fact I'm running 4 different adware and spyware programs and HiJackTHis when I have serious problems. My problem is 4 kids going to popular teen sites where they download and share, pictures, video and audio. To boot I have a 12 yr old who goes to kid gaming sites and downloads free games. We monitor their use, but they get this junk from myspace, facebook etc.

Banning the places they pick-up this junk eliminates everything kids use the internet for except homework. I've just decided to battle and remove the stuff as it appears (bummer, sucks-to-be-me).

What flames me is that some of these things dig in so deep (especially some of the downloaders), that none of the spyware removes them. Remove unwanted programs, remove Explorer, run HiJackThis, reboot in safe mode run all 4 adware and anti-spyware programs, reboot so anti-spyware can remove items in memory and rescan. Now, rerun one last time and guess what there are still 2 or 3 stuck in memory and the next time your online they start downloading all of it over again (by the way at 30-45 min per scan it's dark out when I get to this point).

If you know of a program that nails all of them I'd love to know.

P.S. I have my own computer that the kids aren't allowed to use. I do not have this problem.

Figure out a way to deduce who downloaded the nasty payload, and use a combination of peer pressure and loss of privileges (including homework!) to enforce it. If you can't figure out who downloaded the stuff, then all of them suffer the consequences. I've got teenagers. Enlist their aid, and let them know that if any one of them goes to those sites and gets infected they will all be doing their homework at the library. They will enforce your rules for you.

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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.

"You break the computer so I have to spend my valuable time cleaning up your mess? You get banned for a month." Works wonders.

And I have my own computer, so if they break theirs, I don't get impacted. If theirs goes belly-up, then they are the ones who have to do without, not me.


...when they see me they'll say, "There goes Loren Wallace,
the greatest thing to ever climb into a race car."

while the kids were still in the house! I had one workstation that was MINE and which I really needed for work. They'd whine that something was wrong with one of their computers and they "needed to do their homework." Yeah, right, but SWMBO would believe them and let them into my computer - Bingo, hours of work to clean it up, lost files, complete hard disk failure one time. Thank God for good backup. No real problems now that they're out of the house. I still get a Helluva lot of SPAM because I've had the same email address for many years and the boys made liberal use of it on porn sites and the like. I need to change it, but doing so is almost like moving, so I'm still putting up with it. The McCaffee takes care of the bad stuff pretty well, but it is time consuming as the SPAM and bad stuff filters do their thing.

In Vino Veritas

Yeah, Socrates has a point, but I've tried a lot of policing, just too many people including my wife using the same machine. Two of four kids are out of the house but are still home on weekends and during the summer, another year or two and they'll be completely on their own and the third in line will be doing the weekend thing. That only leaves the 12yr. old and my wife, hopefully I can stay ahead of them.

For now I'm taking the route you did. My computer is kept pristine, I fix theirs every six months when it grinds to a halt because it's running so much spyware you can't even open solitaire. I do have my machine walled off from the LAN so they can't infect me. So I'm happy and their happy (mostly).

Still would like a "Nuke'em" key on the keyboard that would send a gazillion volts back down the line and fry the kids systems who write all this stuff. Just wishing.

"The only way to negotiate with your enemy, is with your knee on his chest and your knife at his throat." - Anon.

You have to think that $5 million spent disrupting communications is probably worth $5 billion in humvees and helicopters.

But let's give the military some credit; they seem to get the idea that this is a cyber war. Remember in WWII that one of the key strategic advantages we had was that we had solved the ENIGMA code. The key is in intelligently using the knowledge without tipping the enemy off to the breach.

It's such a fine line between stupid and clever. - David St. Hubbins

 
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