Democrats Preemptively Surrender on Surrender Plan

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So yesterday Barack Obama made a lot of people upset when he stated very simply the political reality in the new Congress:

SIOUX CITY, Iowa – If President Bush vetoes an Iraq war spending bill as promised, Congress quickly will provide the money without the withdrawal timeline the White House objects to because no lawmaker “wants to play chicken with our troops,” Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday.

“My expectation is that we will continue to try to ratchet up the pressure on the president to change course,” the Democratic presidential candidate said in an interview with The Associated Press. “I don't think that we will see a majority of the Senate vote to cut off funding at this stage.”

Charlie Rangel echoed the same sentiments on MTP when talking about the House side of things, saying "Ultimately, politically, we have to give him the money." Now, some folks seem to be surprised that a group of Congresspeople elected on a platform of surrender would, you know, surrender so quickly, but it's not exactly a surprise to me. Some things have a habit of becoming a way of life.

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Here, then, is the critical part of this debate. Some polling has been done which purports to show that the public favors the Democrats' plan, whereas other polling purports to show this to be a much closer call. The next month, I think, is going to be a critical one in the fate of the war. The American public still is a little uneasy about a date certain withdrawal, but they are growing increasingly committed to a conditions-based withdrawal plan. The reality is that the Administration is just not going to have the patience of the American people for the next 12 months. I predict that if the samesort of resolution comes up next year, the Democrats will be able to stand firm on surrender without fear of significant political reprisal.

Bush is going to veto this bill, and he should - but this is not nearly enough. If they are unable to provide clearer indicia of progress on the ground, and in short order, things are going to get bad - by which I mean worse - in terms of Congressional support. Of course, what the netroots wants is for the Congress to just go ahead and yank funding for the war altogether - this, of course, might be the one scenario that would self-destruct in the Democrats' faces, but it's what their base elected them for. Nevertheless, even this particular window is shrinking, I fear.

The thing that really chafes about this is that the Democrats knew that this was the reality going in - that's why they loaded the supplemental with a bunch of ridiculous pork in an attempt to buy votes from Congressmen who would otherwise not have voted with them, and why they capitulated so easily in the face of a threatened veto - yet they've gone ahead and dragged their feet for 56 days on the funding for this regardless. The truth is that they are playing petty and cynical politics in an attempt to appease their impatient voters, and banking on a continued deterioration of the situation on the ground to turn public opinion in their favor. They are trying, in other words, to give themselves political cover in case the surge does work, so that they won't have been on the wrong side of things in 2008, no matter how it turns out. If they are truly so convinced that Iraq can't work, and that it is ultimately doomed to failure, they should have the strength to vote their convictions on that now, rather than waiting for the right moment to offer a post hoc "I told you so." If, on the other hand, they really *do* think that victory might be possible, then why play politics in this way? Why not work with the Administration and say, "Let's do what it takes to get this done, because failure in this mission would have disastrous consequences"?

I suppose that the answer is that such an approach would simply not be feasible for a group whose central belief is in surrender.

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For significant numbers of Democrats, the enemy is George Bush and their goal is to throw as much sand in his governance as possible without being seen so that it looks like he's slipped rather than having been pushed (to mix the metaphor).

And Rightly So!

This is all just prelude for the Democratic primary season. Let me put it to you this way: if you're a progressive who is getting the odd feeling that there's some weird subtext going on right now with the rhetoric on your side... for once, you're right, and you're not going to like it when your putative allies bring it all out in the open.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

And just got shipped a box with a brick in it.

Given the number of progressives in government this does go a long way to explaining things like the FBI computer upgrades, and the ATC upgrades.
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that the Dems are so baldly capitulating to reality. OTOH, I'm still majorly hacked off at the GOP members who let themselves be brazenly bought by pork. What the hell ever happened to standing on principle?

Don't put the words "Congress" and "principle" in the same sentence. The only time the former stands on the latter is when they have mud they need to get off their shoes...
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for Obama's stance than a psychological proclivity for surrender: he wants to end the war in Iraq, but is not willing to "create a situation in which, potentially, you don't have body armor, you don't have reinforced humvees, you don't have night-vision goggles".

As you stated up front, he sees the simple political reality of not having the votes. In the absence of the votes, the thing to do is create and maintain pressure on the president (and, of course, work on getting the votes).

Markos Zúniga's disappointment with Obama stems from the idea that "Obama has blown the framing battle". *That's* the kind of statement that truly frightens me. The "petty and cynical politics" have become stomach-turning enough. I, for one, am thankful that Obama does not view the safety of our troops as a "framing battle".

"I should be allowed to think" -- John Linnell

"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville

running is so vital to our cause. The Democrats are being driven by the left edge of their party more and more every day. Right now, logic and a sense of reality are still holding sway, but as the election draws closer, they will ease closer to the left.

If Fred got in, it would drive the Moonbats over the top and they would start screaming demands that have no possible application in reality and completely split the Democratic party.

They lose. We win. (Seems to me I've heard that phrase somewhere before).

Voters may well become frustrated with the Dems who promised to 'Bring Our Troops Home NOW'. Those voters will turn out in primaries to vote for an even more antiwar rhetoric candidate.

But I think an increasing majority feels conflicted. They want to scream along with the Murtha camp but they are becoming educated about the reality of a disastrous premature exit.

Bruising Democratic primary fights - particularly against incumbents - will be quite useful for the GOP.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

 
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