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From: Tom Curtis " tcurtis2@prodigy.net "
Date: Dec 3, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Reports from "Inside the Surge" in Iraq
To: Jeff@redstate.com
When all is said and done...
It does not matter how many we kill in Iraq.
When all is said and done...
It does not matter how "WELL" we kill them.
When all is said and done...
It does matter WHY we are killing innocent human beings.
When all is said and done it is YOUR soul that rots in hell.
Tom
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and go home Tom. or go to Iraq. if we're killing innocent people, a defender of terrorists and genocidal dictators like you should be safe.
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God has now taken the form of a whiny, bitter lib who's now asking himself why it bothers him so much that his own country is succeeding in a war?
I would think that it's at least a consideration that the folks we're killing are trying to do the same to us. Not that I want to stir up the free-association that is leftist foreign policy ethos by using common sense....
Because that was SOME FUN.
I would have only one question for this little Tom character:
Who is this "we" you're talking about. Cuz I guarantee you, you ain't on the same side I am.
Stare decisis is fo' suckas -- Feddie
Iraq news goes bad
My self-righteous anger stews
Alas! Freedom reigns
Stare decisis is fo' suckas -- Feddie
It does not matter how many died in Iraq.
When all is said and done...
It does not matter how "WELL" they died.
When all is said and done...
It does matter WHY they died.
When all is said and done it will be THEIR blood that secures an entire region's right to live free and prosper while protecting our own.
this is why YOU will be free to explain to YOUR kids why YOU supported evil regimes, despotic rulers, and fanatical pogroms.
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Thou art the Great Cat, the avenger of the Gods, and the judge of words...-Inscription on the Royal Tombs at Thebes
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Considering where the good doctor's head was, when practicing medicine, is it any wonder that the man has issues?
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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.
... thanks for all you do.
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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.
For a minute there, I was thinking that "innocent human beings" applied to fetuses too. I guess terrorists, enemy combatants, and insurgents qualify as "innocent human beings" and innocent babies who have never had a chance to live don't.
And I suppose your soul won't rot in hell for killing millions of innocent babies too.
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
-Winston Churchill
I guess I missed it: where in his post did Mr. Curtis take a position on abortion?
Gar
When all is said and done, how many of our guys died because we tried to distinguish the good guys from the bad before we fired upon them.
When all is said and done, how many of our guys would not be dead, crippled or disfigured if we just indiscriminately carpet bombed the entire country by air(like Clinton did in Servia).
When all is said and done why are many of these so-called dead "innocent" people not Iraqis, but Saudis, Iranians, Syrians, Uzbeks, Somalias, Egyptians, and what are they doing there if they are so innocent?
A parent will receive a visit from some men in uniform tonight, informing them that there son/daughter will not be able to come home for Christmas.
When all is said and done...
That son/daughter gave of himself/herself, to not only buy the freedom for 25 million innocent Iraqis, but to insure the right of this arrogant little ***** to take a crap on everything they stand for, bleed for and die for. Not just for now, but for future generations.
When all is said and done...
God will indeed judge us all based not on the invective we can spew to people we don't know via email, but based on our deeds. As a soldier, there are things I have had to do that I would never wish to do, but I know that I always did the right thing.
Oh and NOT IN YOUR NAME Tom.
Look at the casualty trends lately, Mac. It's possible that some mother or father, husband, wife, brother, sister, or child will Not get that message because, just possibly, they will all get through the rest of this month...
...I am crossing my fingers...
"Hillary is a blonde. But what she's got is a testicle lockbox."
-Rush Limbaugh
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Considering where the good doctor's head was, when practicing medicine, is it any wonder that the man has issues?
This is one time I would love to be wrong. There are people I know, our brothers in arms, who will spend today kicking down doors, and others that will spend it driving on the MSR's of Iraq, and my prayers are that all of them will come home safe.
I think someone stumbled onto the wrong website....I think they should be looking for someplace with a (K) in it.
You weren't so haunted by the death of the innocents when Saddam was throwing them into shredders, were you, you angel you. There must be at least few of them who aren't innocent, you sanctimonious windbag.
Tom baby, all things considered, including the things you are willing to overlook, you will be in hell before any of us. Bet on it, and give my regards to all the other liberals[?].
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I'm sure that I could come up with a snazzy limerick, but I'm too busy laughing at the idea that supporting the GWOT damns ours souls to Hell.
I thought that rooting for the Cubs had already done my soul in.
Eternal reward for temporal suffering - not a bad trade.
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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.
Sometimes we forget who the real enemy is. While we are safe in our homes striving to get a little ahead at the game we call life. The sight of barbarous acts and mindless violence desensitizes us to the horror. The repeated images of terror just provoke disgust and repulsion. We turn away and get back to our lives.
You sir have shown us the true face of the enemy. The face of people so small and petty that they put the disruption of their cozy world views on the same plane as the death of innocents and heroes. That they should be proven wrong is a greater crime than a woman being fed to Saddam's dogs.
The true face of our enemies is to horrible and unbelievable to carry around with us in our daily lives. Without someone to show us and remind us that the enemy is not men that have given in to their inner demons.
Our true enemies are those that can look at the demons and not only see nothing wrong but work for their triumph.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
is it so wrong to feel sorrow for the deaths of innocent civilians?
Sure, many of these "civilians" are foreign combatants, but not all of them. Why is it so difficult to mourn the deaths of those caught in the middle. I feel for our soldiers, especially when they put their own lives on the line to try to ensure the safety of the local population. That takes a special kind of bravery I have trouble even contemplating. They obviously respect the dignity of human life. I would hope that the people on this site could do the same.
Innocent civilians are not the enemy. Accepting their deaths as an unnecessary evil for the greater good is not wrong, but trivializing their deaths by either vilifying them (labeling them all foreign combatants) or martyring them (saying they died so the region can be free) is. If you walk through Hiroshima, or Nagasaki, or Dresden, and your primary emotion is joy in victory over an evil enemy, or pride in the successful creation of Democratic nations, I feel sorry for you.
I'd look at all that and think, gee, better that, then what would have happened had we not won the war as soon as we did.
since that was my point. I feel this way as well. I was questioning whether it was your primary thought. Personally, my feelings are along the lines of, in order:
1) Oh my God, what a tragic loss of human life
2) But if it wasn't for these deaths, so many more could have died.
3) It was the right choice, but, oh, what a price!
I was addressing those whose thinking would be:
1) Wow, this is where we destroyed the evil empire of old.
2) Democracy can now reign free throughout the region.
3) *shrug*, too bad so many people had to die in the process, but that's war.
This is the difference I see between myself and a few people responding to this letter. If I am mistaken, feel free to correct me.
First: Satisfaction over the victory. We won, we have a right to be proud of doing so.
Second: Dang! The cost was so high, though. Hope we don't have to do it again.
Third: Well, if we do, we do.
"Hillary is a blonde. But what she's got is a testicle lockbox."
-Rush Limbaugh
America's "boots on the ground" go out of their way to avoid civilian casualties. To the extent that good men and women die more than they have to so that we will avoid killing people who might be innocent.
Just remember, even though that is true, we still destroy the enemy everytime we engage them. I couldn't be prouder to be part of the great organization that is the U.S. Army.
As to your order and how I feel -
1. Victory first, victory foremost - complete the mission, come home.
2. Everything else, from the important to the trivial falls behind #1.
...your Mother wouldn't be Helen Thomas... Now, would she?
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