The once Merry England.
The decline toward dhimmitude.
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Writing in Commentary, Daniel Johnson provides a neat summary of the precipitous decline of Britain toward full-blown dhimmitude. As one might expect, considering the sad history of that remarkable people, the Jews are among the first to feel the pressure. A left-wing legislator who declares, “The pro-Israel lobby has got its grips on the Western world — its financial grips”; A right-wing politician who pronounced the Israeli war against Hizballah, “a war crime gravely reminiscent of the Nazi atrocity on the Jewish quarter of Warsaw”; Britain’s widest-circulating newspaper publishing “a cartoon depicting two scenes of devastation, one labeled ‘Warsaw 1943’ and the other ‘Tyre 2006.’”; a dramatic acceleration in anti-Semitic attacks, Muslims being “overrepresented” in the class of assailants — this is the new Great Britain.
Read on.
In the streets of London the signs read: “we are all Hizballah now.” In the august corridors of the House of Lords, two peers come to blows when one dared to utter a word about Israel’s right to self-defense. In central London a mosque is being built that will be the largest in Europe, auguring what sort of capital that great city will soon be. A local Muslim activist, after disrupting a press conference, is promptly invited on the BBC to give his assessment of things: Home Secretary John Reid is a “murderer,” Blair an “an enemy to Muslims and an enemy to Allah,” and finally, Britain “doesn’t belong to you, or to the Queen, or to the government, but to Allah. He has put us on earth to implement shari’a law.” On the fifth anniversary of September 11, one of the most prominent Muslims in Britain delivers this threat in the Sunday Telegraph: “If that demonization [of Muslims] continues, then Britain will have to deal with 2 million Muslim terrorists — 700,000 of them in London.” The Conservative Party leader delivers a speech, not to stand against this sedition, but to mollify Muslim opinion, expounding on the true nature of the Islamic religion in all the right tones of confident timidity. This is what mass immigration of Muslims into Britain has wrought. This is what the conventional line of appeasement — a “religion of peace” —, repeated by virtually every Western head of state since September 11, has wrought. Britain, the cradle of liberal democracy, the parent of our own constitutional system, as ancient and as venerable an incubator of the habits of liberty and order as there is, has, in the course of less than a decade, walked right up the edge of dhimmitude.
It is staggering to consider the rapidity of this enslavement. Can anyone doubt that British support, however tenuous, for Israel will not long endure after Blair? How long, indeed, before Britain goes the way of Spain — the way, that is, of open capitulation?
It is by now acknowledged, for the most part, that the menace to England is real. The fact that a staid organ of mainstream conservative opinion like Commentary prints so alarming an article as this, is testimony enough. But rarely are any conclusions drawn for our country. The steady stream of Muslim immigrants to America has not slowed since September 11; rather it has increased. Few here have yet dared to consider the sorts of tools so often used in past by this country when she was confronted by systematic subversion: sedition laws, loyalty oaths, and suchlike. The quick and easy resort to platitude, to the old glib words of silence and intimidation, is hardly less quick or easy. It is thought that somehow, by some magic, what has happened there cannot happen here. This would be a strained and unwise assumption even in previous ages when the assimilationist ethic was robust (the same ages, of course, when sedition laws and loyalty oaths were also robust), for Islam is an older, deeper and certainly truer thing than Communism, Jacobinism or Fascism; but today, having watched this ethic, which was once our glory, dismantled by a cacophony of petty ideologies, such an assumption merits a more severe description. Dangerous.
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"I don't know." -- Helen Thomas, when asked by White House spokesman Scott McClellan, "Are we at war, Helen?"
Its truly an indictment of our mother country that people are being put on trial for saying 'offensive' things that 'incite hatred', and other such nonsense designed to stifle non-pc speech.
Considering how low British birthrates are, its hard to hold out much hope, but seeing as how this craven behavior is taking place when over 90% of the population remains British, I don't know if it would matter even if the natives were repopulating themselves.
And if anyone thinks for a nanosecond the United States won't be next, they had better think twice. Incompetent leadership doesn't stop on the other side of the Atlantic.
Try it now.
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And the Lord upon the Golden Horn is laughing in the sun.
(I think). Quite depressing, but I haven't given up on the UK or even much of Europe yet, even as I watch the US start down the same suicidal path.
A recent anecdote did bring me cheer: parents in one UK town forced turkey back onto the school Chrismas menu when it was substituted for halal chicken. The only way to deal with multiculturalists and their suicidal tendencies is never to let up on them, even when it's a matter of the holiday meal. Not much, on the face of it, but everything at the same time.
parents in one UK town forced turkey back onto the school Chrismas menu when it was substituted for halal chicken
If this school didn't try to celebrate Christmas there'd be no problem. They need to have British counterparts to the ACLU and AU forbidding the school from having anything whatsoever to do with Christmas. Voila!
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Bipartisanship = give + take. Republicans give. Democrats take.
The major problem with Europe and Great Britain in particular, is that the gene pool of good men has been depleted by wars in which a high percentage of those lost were the from the deep end of the gene pool. This, coupled with low immigration rates over the last 200 years of anglo-saxon racial types that could have bred into the indigenous population of the British Isles has created a legacy population of inbred, inferior cowards.
Now, before I'm attacked as a racist, inter-racial marriage and reproduction would be a great benefit to the gene pool, however, that has not been a social reality until the last 30-50 years and then in only a relatively limited amount.
Human populations are no different than cattle herds, you get what you breed.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Headline: Racist Tbone Compares Muslims to Cattle
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Bipartisanship = give + take. Republicans give. Democrats take.
the anglo-saxon Brits. I mean really, take a good look at Charles, and he's the future King.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
I get the impression that Elizabeth is doing her absolute best to outlive him and might just succeed...
"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
...in England, and Charles will contribute nothing of value, indeed nothing worthy of mention. His children will contribute less than nothing.
Does anyone else find it striking that England has produced no fewer than three female monarchs of remarkable longevity? Elizabeth's son will be just as unimportant as Victoria's son was (but far less charming).
Well-loved but superannuated monarchs are one thing. To the spiritual collapse of the English people, however, I have nothing to offer but horrified silence.
I prefer to leave the comparisons of men to cattle to the Communists.
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And the Lord upon the Golden Horn is laughing in the sun.
I thought it said
Personally, I prefer the company of men cattle to the Communists.
Not good. Not good at all.
Evil men hide from the truth, but good men stand upon it.
the Anglo-Saxon breeding stock to have come from?
The intelligent, courageous progeny of Australian penal colonists? They'd leave their beaches to endure English weather? You would not be selecting for intelligence....
And what makes you think that this immigrant Anglo-Saxon gene pool would be different from that already in England? If you propose selecting intelligent, courageous, (insert other positive eugenic qualities here), individuals to breed, that is one matter. But I don't think lack of immigration to England is the problem.
I don't think breeding is the problem here. Culture is. The few Brits I know are very concerned about what they consider an invasion, and they are not the prototypical Paki-bashers, but educated academics and military folk.
I am not trying to be snarky. I think this is a huge problem, but I don't think it's one of breeding.
Joe
It's hard to comprehend the magnitude of the bimbo factor of the women in the picture. Precisely what appeal to progressively-minded women (um, that's all of them under forty in the Anglosphere, best I can tell) does Hezbollah have? Or are they just showing their moral bona fides?
borne of extreme multiculturalist and left-wing indoctrination is all I can figure. Perhaps a few months in burqas might disabuse them of the need to please their potential batterers.
Just the latest incarnation of Manson's(Charles or Marilyn) girls doing what it takes to chap daddy's azz.
I suspect that Australia and Canada will start to benefit from Great Britain's slide...I wonder where and when the "tipping point" will occur?
For better or worse, the BNP is on the rise in the UK. We'll continue to see extreme parties gaining ground through out Europe, I believe.
"BNP" is the link text, I don't know why the rest of it is highlighted.
... of the sort discussed by George Orwell. Turgid, over the top, wholly lacking in any original thought, and made up of phrases harvested from other propagandists, just rearranged.
or should just be ignored? Either way, you might really want to read (or read closely again) Orwell before you cite him in such a post and embarass yourself further.
... I'll include a link to the Orwell essay I reference (http://www.george-orwell.org/Politics_and_the_English_Language/0.html). The same source also includes a sublime essay by Orwell on antisemitism in England that makes the above read like the quackspeak claptrap that it is.
You may now go back to embarassing yourself.
how about toning it down a bit?
It's all well and good that you imagine yourself, editor of an online magazine and all, as an authority on literary style.
But if you don't have anything substantive to contribute then I'd suggest you don't contribute anything at all.
The irony of someone using nothing more than insults and an essay written by someone else to back up an accusation of another's lack of "original" thought is hysterical.
Talk about embarassing!
"Even when you fall on your face, you're still moving forward."
... don't get hysterical -- that WOULD be embarassing! ;)
Do you understand what it means to pretend events didn't happen or to ignore them, and how that would be precisely what Orwell found as a problem with language? I might even direct you to a nifty Hitchens treatise on Orwell and the use of language to avoid evil rather than to confront it, but I don't have a link. Just the book.
Nice response Einstein... Next time, show your work.
"Even when you fall on your face, you're still moving forward."
I wouls say you are certainly a practicioner of what he warned about in the first. And I hope you are not implying that the level of anti-semitism in the UK is OK today?
Some in Britain are standing up and speaking out (and writing) against the Islamist advances.
I would especially recommend Melanie Phillips.
...the his wives would be clad in burquas?
"It never hurts to remind those who would vote for your opponent to vote...on Wednesday" - TMYN Blog
I have a little bit of fear of the future that I see coming.
Yet at the same time, I see that future as our greatest hope.
Let us assume that England does give in wholly to Dhimmitude and that the US follows that path:
The Brits have shown through thousands of years of history with even worse breeding at times, that they do not suffer fools for long. Sha'ria Law might take hold, but it won't last. And when the Brits throw off that yoke, it will be a bloodbath as they exterminate Sha'ria's supporters. It will take longer than we would like, but it will happen.
Now America:
There are large swathes of America that won't merely Not give in to Sha'ria, but will not tolerate it in our government and armed resistance will become the order of the day. In return, the Islamofascist groups that already have their claws here will strike out in like manner. This is when the Liberals will despair for their lack of weapons and ability to survive. And they will be destroyed and/or enslaved while the Conservatives from the backwoods walk in armed for bear and clean house.
In both these cases, there will be bloodshed such as this world has not seen in centuries. In the end, both countries will be better off for it. Not a pretty picture, but one I fear that both nations are running out of time to prevent.
"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
The rise in anti-semitic attacks is disturbing. But Britain creeping "right up to edge of dhimmitude"? Like, slaves to the caliphate, groaning under Sharia law?
Here's what I took from the Commentary piece. A large mosque is being constructed in the center of London (gasp). The tory and labor leaders have issued some measured criticism of Israel's conduct during the recently ended Lebanese war (the statements of support for Israel issued during the same period go unmentioned.) Beyond that, some stupidities from the usual fringe-leftoids.
From you, I hear a call for mandatory loyalty oaths, nostalgia for religious tests and an implied plea for the reintroduction of sedition laws -- this, in the Western democracy that has by far the best integrated Muslim population in the world. I don't get it.
you are 'distrubed' by the rise in anti-semitism. This of course is followed by the requisite BUT.
You obviously must have just come to this rapidly worsening situation in the 'Clash of Cultures/WWIII' in one of our TWO allies (the other being Australia).
Do you have any idea what the significance of building the largest mosque in europe in the center of London is? Have you ever heard of al-Andalusia? It's the better part of Spain which the muslims still claim for thier caliphate based on conquest hundreds of years after being ejected. Once a place is claimed by a muslim, it remains so in perpetuity. See it now? It's a rallying cry for jihadis around the ME. Cosider London now in the same catagory.
As far as the leaders issuing 'measured criticism' of Israel and 'unmentioned statements of support'. Did you mean that they should have been less supportive of a country that had it's soldiers murdered and kidnapped on its own soil by an international terrorist orgainization? Perhaps they should have upbraided the Israelis for getting it's citizens in the way of the hizbo rocket attacks on thier population centers?
Specifically what part of allegiance to one's country do you have a problem with? The part where we expect that a citizen is obligated to turn in a jihadi rather than tacitly (or materially) approving of thier actions. No doubt you have studied islamic culture and understand that there are no innocent civilians. That is one of those inconvenient Western concepts. Surely you acknowledge the muslim act of taqqiya? You know, the one where the sin of lying is absolved - nay encouraged - in the furtherment of islam? Did you bother to read what the 'English' islamic leaders are progagating in thier mosques? I suggest a stroll by www.memri.org for a lesson or two.
"...this, in the Western democracy that has by far the best integrated Muslim population in the world. I don't get it."
No kidding.
REe: Have you ever heard of al-Andalusia? It's the better part of Spain which the muslims still claim for thier caliphate based on conquest hundreds of years after being ejected. Once a place is claimed by a muslim, it remains so in perpetuity.
Does any actual Muslim country claim Al-Andalus (let alone London, which was never remotely part of any Caliphate?) Any gang of cracks can lay claim to anything-- there's someone on the West Coast who purports to be the emperor of San Francisco, once upon a time the Emperor of America lived in Charlevoix Michigan (and even served in the Michigan legislature!), and in the South there were (probably still are) neo-Confederetes who have never accepted Appomattox (and some of their sort used to enjoy a good "necktie" party too).
Does any actual Muslim country claim Al-Andalus
Islam is not about nation states, Islam is about the domination of mankind by Islam --- one "religion", one "law", one idea, one way of life, one God. And the rest of us have to get out of the way.
John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel
John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel
I believe I made the link just last weekend here!
Re: Islam is not about nation states
Nations states (or, at the far limit maybe, tribes) are the only entity which as the power to actually lay claim to territory, make war to gain it, and then govern it. A religion or ideology may claim the whole universe as its own but without the state power (armies, navies, guns, bombs, etc.) to back up that claim it's meaningless. Communism, for example, was only fearful because it had command of the Russian state (and a few others). Had that not been the case the Communists might have been dangerous on the same level as the anarchists (capable of assassinations, but not much more).
Is Islamism a dnager. Most definitely. But we should not inflate it beyond its proper scale.
how many angels can dance on the head of a pin in your universe.
John
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The Dutch tell Belgian jokes. The Belgians tell French jokes. The French tell English jokes. The English tell Irish jokes. The Irish tell Irish jokes.
You stepped in it as far as Andalusia. Obviously, al-Qaeda embraces the Muslim concept that "redeemed lands" must be brought back into the fold by force, terror or whatever means necessary. Yet in the madrasa system sponsored by the Saudi government and in the textbooks it produces, school children are taught this is their goal as well. Some texts continue to show Andalusia (and other freed places like Greece and obviously Israel) to be part of the Muslim world.
Islamic terrorists are the equivalent of communist anarchists you referenced, and the former frequently have nation/state sponsorship. It starts in the school systems of corrupt police states like Saudi Arabia and eventually receives funding from their governments.
For the dhimmis of England or eventually the United States to be part of this caliphate, it isn't necessary that most of the population be converted, simply subjugated. It is time for Westerners in general and the people of the UK and US in particular to give up their naive and suicidal beliefs about Muslim assimilation into their countries. It happens, but in spite of what these populations are taught and frequently believe; the Islamism many continue to embrace will lead only to a violent reaction. After Bush and Blair, both nations must elect effective and pragmatic leaders who will acknowledge the problems within our own midsts.
UBL and his movement seek to re-claim the Caliphate and all the lands once help by Muslims and eventually the whole world. I always find it silly to listen to all the why do they hate us and what do they want BS with irrelevant discussions of the Israeli-PLO, US on Saudi soil, etc
UBL has spoken extensively for over a decade on this. He is of the Turabi school that traces the movement back to when Ataturk extinguished the caliphate in Turkey.
UBL who once had a nation-state pre-GWB has long ago outlined his strategy to take Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc and then moving west.
I know you are as relieved as I am that we removed Saddam who had changed the Iraqi flag to appease the radicals and whose sons were in charge of the jihadist Fedayeen Saddam.
And that we are fighting and beating al qaida in Iraq today.
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
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Any gang of cracks can lay claim to anything-- there's someone on the West Coast who purports to be the emperor of San Francisco, once upon a time the Emperor of America lived in Charlevoix Michigan (and even served in the Michigan legislature!), and in the South there were (probably still are) neo-Confederetes who have never accepted Appomattox
and when was the last time any of the folks you cite blew up a train, bus, airplane, restaurant?
John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel
Re: and when was the last time any of the folks you cite blew up a train, bus, airplane, restaurant?
I do beleive I mentioned the fact that certain reactionary groups in the South used to be quite happy to commit murders; indeed in some times and places their murders were occasion for public holiday and were memorialized on post cards.
Also, much more recently, there were 900 dead innocents in OKC who serve as a grim answer to your question.
You must be kidding! Your so called answer is outrageous. You cite one incident in OKC as "proof"? You view is a perfect example of what is wrong with the left in the modern world.
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John
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The Dutch tell Belgian jokes. The Belgians tell French jokes. The French tell English jokes. The English tell Irish jokes. The Irish tell Irish jokes.
now constituted 10% of France?
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
http://gamecock.townhall.com
As a resident Okie, I feel I should point out that there were 168 deaths in the OKC bombing. It was still the largest terrorist act on U.S. soil until 9/11 but there was not 900 causalties.
... in your comment. Pointing out that propaganda is propaganda (even when you agree with the politics of the author) should not be considered a subversive act.
.....a group of religious fanatics---not an insignificant number of whom dwell in caves and eat scorpions for dinner---will accomplish what a massive military, scores of bombers and fighters and a fleet of nuclear submarines could not accomplish for the Soviet Union..
my kids didn't live in caves and eat scorpions or have to die because they object to that way of life as the pinnacle of human thought.
John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel
Chicagorich - I think it's pretty obvious from the article, the comments above and the news that the threat described here does not come from terrorists in far off caves somewhere (not that the threat they pose is insignificant). No one is claiming that terrorists are plotting a William the Conquerer style military invasion of England or anywhere else. The threat comes from Muslims who have immigrated to the UK for ostensibly peaceful reasons or are even born, raised and educated in the UK itself. The threat from this increasing number of home-grown religious fanantics is aided and abetted by anti-Semitic and/or left-wing media, politicians, and people like yourself who either don't realize or willfully ignore the fact that the ultimate goal of these people is to force everyone to either convert or submit to Islamic rule and Sharia law.
will ever become majority Muslim. For one thing the nation receives too many immigrants from non-Muslim countries (India, the Caribbean, Christian Africa and, increasingly, eastern Europe). Moroever, while the British character is rather dispassionate and undemonstrative, almost passive at times, there comes a point when the British reach the end of their patience and given past history of what happens next I would not care to be in their bad books when that day comes.
The problem is that they will continue to slavishly kowtow to Muslim demands for superiority. Same issue in France & Germany.
And jsteele - below - is absolutely right. "When that happens..." there will be blood in the streets in Europe and will likely be the wrong blood.
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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?
Who said anything about Britain becoming "majority Muslim"? Did Greece ever become majority Muslim? And yet she was subjugated, and the Orthodox Church made captive, for four centuries.
Obviously I cannot make you accept my judgment, but I would ask that you at least render it accurately. The fear is that the power of Muslim assertiveness, terror and intimidation, added to the current enervation of Englishmen, will destroy the liberty of Britain, thereby depriving us of one of our truest allies.
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And the Lord upon the Golden Horn is laughing in the sun.
I am so glad to se you have joined as on the substance of the problem, ie that there is a danger trying our patience. many of us don't want to repeat the mistaken patience of Chamberlain
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
http://gamecock.townhall.com
and therein lies the problem. The people of Europe will eventually have their fill of Islam and will fight back; and many many people will die in the process.
John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel
It doesn't take an overthrow to do damage. The damage extremists can do in England is render it useless by draining any political capital to take any action against global terror. It is happening already. This will be a big blow to the US to lose a solid partner like the UK.
If you often find yourself arguing the exceptions rather than the rule you are probably are a legend in your own mind. -CommonCents
Striking and frightening. This piece encompasses the atmosphere well and shows exactly why we must harden our resolve in this culture war. We cannot afford to lose.
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Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same. -The Fray, "All At Once"