The War Is Not Lost

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“This is not
the picture of a war lost as Senator Reid claimed last week. ”

A few weeks ago, Democrats told the Defense Department that they were “too busy” to schedule a bi-partisan Member briefing with General Petraeus on the status of operations in Iraq. In fact, the briefing, scheduled for this Wednesday, almost didn’t happen. When we have over 140,000 troops in Iraq and the situation in the country at its most critical, it’s hard to conceive of an issue more important.

Maybe the hesitation is that some don’t want to hear what General Petraeus, who was unanimously confirmed by the Senate, has to say.

Recently, General Petraeus has said in briefings that the surge is showing initial signs of success.

Read on . . .

In the seven weeks since the surge began, the number of weapons stockpiles we have found has doubled. More tips are coming in from Iraqis who want peace and stability to take hold in their country. Sunni leaders are turning against al Qaeda and the Iraqi troops are standing up. In fact, just last week, the Iraqi troops took charge of security in the southern province of Maysan, the fourth province to come under full Iraqi security patrol.

Our troops are also committed to the mission and need to know they have the full support of Congress behind them to finish the job. Our troops know better than anyone the progress that is being made because they are responsible for it.

Last week, a Marine Corps infantry battalion returned to their home base in Hawaii from seven months in an area of Al Anbar Province known as “The Triad.” When the battalion arrived in Iraq, the enemy they faced averaged thirteen attacks on the civilian populace per day. There was no functioning government and local Iraqi leaders were in hiding. By the time they turned over the Triad to a fellow Marine battalion seven months later, enemy attacks had been reduced to less than one per day and the Iraqi mayor had begun several much needed re-construction projects. Children had returned to school and families could shop. The cities of the Triad now have water and food and the people wave to both Iraqi and American troops on patrol. The police force is expanding by the day.

This is not the picture of a war lost, as Senator Reid claimed last week.

I encourage all Members from both sides of the aisle to attend this week’s bi-partisan briefing to learn how the situation is progressing and areas where it’s not. America and her troops are committed in Iraq and the only acceptable outcome in our eyes should be that of success and stability. We owe it to our troops, to the Iraqis and to this country to see Iraq through to success. As we know well by now, the consequences of a premature withdrawal from Iraq would be disastrous to the region and would also likely increase our commitment to that area of the world indefinitely.

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It is good to know that not all of our Congress agrees with Sen. Reid. Please try to counter this with as much press attention as you can muster.

Socialism doesn't work. It looks nice on paper, but it's been tried and it's failed miserably every time (usually accompanied by widespread death and suffering).
Proud member of the V.R.W.C.

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.html

So why do the Democrats insist on having a time for withdrawal?
Even my Afro American Democrat buddy doesn't like that idea.

Dems are harping about how America wants the troops out of Iraq, a IBD editorial showed that a majority shows that it is very important to succeed in Iraq. Though that link has expired since it was posted over 90 days ago.

I just heard Reid say something about an October redeployment date on Foxnews. When is Reid going to make up his mind? Why does the President have to move his way?
Who has endorsed his date for withdrawal plan amongst active duty Generals? Senator Reid I dare you to ask General Petreaus while he's in DC what he thinks about a date for withdrawing troops.

Sentiment gage
Supplemental for the war: hopelessly deadlocked in stalemate

Democrat leaders do not have time to talk to American military
leaders responsible for our troops in Iraq. Yet somehow they have time to talk to every terrorist leader, anti American reporter and any one else who they think might support their
plans to give victory to the terrorists.

mdetlh, you asked:

"So why do the Democrats insist on having a time for withdrawal?"

I think it's obvious. The Dems only have a scant year and a half until the Elections - their campaigns for Congress and also for their Presidential candidate is based on surrendering in Iraq and having those troops home way before the election.

Reid and Company know that if progress is made in Iraq, they lose the elections. They are on a very thin limb. They not only realize this but know that if progress is really made and opinion polls start to swing the other way, they are in deep doo doo.

So...they are pulling out all of the stops to sabotage any hope of an American/Iraqi win. It's all about politics. It's nothing about doing the right thing.

You said a mouthful right here, Congresswoman:

Maybe the hesitation is that some don’t want to hear what General Petraeus, who was unanimously confirmed by the Senate, has to say.

The Democratic leadership has invested heavily in American failure in Iraq, and I think they are certain that what the General has to say would contradict their own fantasies.

Keep it up, great to see you here at RedState.

It's war -- so when can we start shooting back at the enemy Democrats?

"It's war -- so when can we start shooting back at the enemy (Democrats)?" E Pluribus Unum.

I'm as angry as you that the Demo's want to undo this war early while ignoring sage advice from our military, but they are just responding to their weak-kneed constituents. However, you are now repeating a call to start a shooting war here, or so it seems.

THINK, man! Has the terrorist mentality already come home to roost in YOU? Are the "Democrats" really the "enemy" and that we should start shooting them? Is this the logical conclusion of "I'm a Uniter"? Was Seung-Hui Cho a friend of yours?

Yes, I know, you are "just joking", but it's a pretty sick joke.

constituents", or aiding the terrorists? It looks to me like the weak-kneed supporters have been supporting the terrorists all along, so I believe the Democrat leaders are supporting both. What is the difference between being a terrorist and supporting terrorists?

Our brave soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq risk their lives to defend our country and we set back here in America and watch the Democrat leaders win the war for the terrorists.

Easy there, Randy. My tagline is not a joke (and it was up long before the little murdering VaTech slimebag did his thing -- and that's a stupid as well as ignorant accusation on your part). But just because it's not a joke does not mean it IS literal. I will not apologize if some people can't manage a little subtly in the English language, and I will most certainly NOT bow down to political correctness. My tagline says what I want it to say.

It's "shooting back" in the sense that the Democrats and their press lackeys have been engaging in a very real and nasty war against Republicans for decades -- they don't engage politically on the issues, they go for personal destruction -- to name just a few: Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas, George W Bush, John Ashcroft, Trent Lott, John Bolton, Dick Cheney, Ken Starr, Scooter Libby, a whole HOST of appeals court nominees (Pryor the 'racist', for example). Every time there's an excuse, they are howling for Republicans to resign this, get impeached for that,etc.

Meanwhile, Wm Jefferson (D-LA) is in Congress instead of prison. Harry Reid's "the war is lost" statement, near treason, is broadcast with glee all over the Middle East. How about some public calls fot THAT jerk to resign.

The NYT has committed egregious crimes in publishing classified info that significantly helped terrorists. While great effort was spent ferreting out a perjury conviction (of the person who was not even the leaker) over the Plame non-scandal, why is no effort being put toward finding the CIA or State Dept people who committed REAL TREASON by leaking that to the NYT? Not to mention prosecuting the times for a clear violation of the 1917 Espionage Act.

It's freaking WAR, and Republicans aren't engaging, we are trying to play by some civilized rules of civil discourse. I say, screw that, "shoot back".

PS -- Oh, and trust me, you are nowhere near being as angry as me about the Dem's conduct regarding Iraq funding.

It's war -- so when can we start shooting back at the enemy Democrats?

Heck, I think EPU is a wimp. He's probably in favor of bipartisanship. His signature doesn't go nearly far enough.

What part of "the Democrats are emboldening our enemies" don't you get? What part of "they are prolonging the war because the enemy knows they will orchestrate a surrender" don't you get?

EPU noted he wasn't joking. I'm with him. If you want to wallow in the jello of your response don't bother us. You are the sick part of the joke, except war is no joke.
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

Ha ha! I was overly kind to the bloke, Mike.

And I admit it, I am shamefully bipartisan too. I think people from EITHER party should call for Harry Reid to be rousted out of the Senate. People from either side should positively woodshed the NYT, and demand a federal investigation into who at the CIA or State leaked those national secrets. And I welcome any Democrat who wants to join me in calling for treason trials and executions, for those found guilty of leaking those national secrets to the NYT.

I know, I know. Bad EPU!

It's war -- so when can we start shooting back at the enemy Democrats?

There are success stories everyday. History will be on our side.

“Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15.”
-Ronald Reagan

If we don't restore Republican government and successfully prosecute this war to its conclusion, the Ds and their running dogs write the history. We might rate a negative and dismissive footnote.

In Vino Veritas

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

And it offends me greatly that there are Americans who would vote for them.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

and/or the Senate going to do about it? So far all you're doing is trying not to offend the leadership of the majority. I have yet to hear of a single Republican having the gumption to mention that Reid is giving the enemy aid and comfort. No one has made a formal call for his, or Pelosi's, or Murtha's, resignation from the Congress. All I hear is a bunch of mealy-mouthed whining from the permanent minority.

You want people from both sides of the aisle to attend the briefing. OK, so what if they don't. What if the majority leadership is either a no-show or continues their defeatist rant? What about Murtha's stated intent to fund the military for 60 days? Where is the outrage? Where are the harsh words? When will the lives of those soldiers and Marines mean more to the Congressional Republicans than the President's Newtone™ and a "spirit of bipartisanship"?

It's late, I've had a long day and I'm sick of the whining or the silence from the right side of the aisle. We are at war. For God's sake, act like it.
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

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"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -- James Madison

Let's take a look at General Petraeus' statements on the surge on January:

The battle for Baghdad will start in mixed Sunni-Shiite neighborhoods chosen by military strategists as being the least likely to offer stiff resistance, raising the odds of early success, according to military planners and officials familiar with the thinking of the incoming Iraq commander, Lt. Gen. David H. Petraeus.

But that could be followed by a sharp increase in violence as insurgents learn U.S. and Iraqi tactics, military officials said.

link

Who sent you? Whoever it was must have had complete arguments, instead of these non sequiturs you're tossing around here.

Let's hit the referral list.

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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!

From Sept. 2006:

One Army officer summarized it as arguing that in Anbar province, "We haven't been defeated militarily but we have been defeated politically -- and that's where wars are won and lost."

Let's reconstruct that argument:

Premise 1: Wars are won and lost politically
Premise 2: We have been defeated politically in Al Anbar
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Conclusion: We have lost the war in Al Anbar.

link

(1) Marines are not Army.
(2) April 2007 is not September 2006.
(3) Al Anbar is not Iraq.
(4) Wars are often won with really big guns.
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Conclusion: You are wasting our time.

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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!

I'm a patriot. I love this country and the freedoms it provides. I seldom comment here, and I really don't want to start an argument and be called all sorts of names. But its time to speak the truth, and I think everyone here needs to hear it.

The war in Iraq is lost beyond any hope.

The war was probably lost even before it started when the Pentagon senior leadership (Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith) refused any attempt to plan for post-war Iraq, actively shutting out any advice from State Department experts whose efforts were scornfully regarded as "Nation Building" and not in line with their plan to install the charlatan Ahmed Chalabi as president.

The war was definitely lost in the first year when, contrary to all advice from the generals, State Department experts, and intelligence community officials, L. Paul Bremer implemented the de-Baathification order and the disbanding of the Iraqi army. These two decisions doomed the US in Iraq by directly creating the insurgency and giving it fuel in the form of former soldiers sent home in disgrace (with their weapons) and nothing to lose. The horror of Abu Ghriab only further infuriated the population against us.

And any hope of turning around these mistakes was dashed by the Administration's intentional mis-reading of the situation for political purposes. Bush frames Iraq as part of the war on terrorism, chanting that we have to fight the terrorists over there so we don't have to fight them here. He has claimed that as the Iraqi forces trained by the US increases, we will be able to stand down. But Iraq is imbroiled in a multi-dimensional civil war between Sunni and Shiite for control of the country and its biggest resource: oil. There may be local troublemakers calling themselves Al-Qaeda fighters, but they are by no means at the heart of the situation (killing Zarqawi made not a bit of difference in the fighting). And those legions of Iraqi troups that the U.S. is producing have loyalties which are at odds with peace and may be turning their weapons and training back against us.

Even in spite of all of this, it would be possible to retain some hope for the terrible situation if the president showed some signs of realistically evaluating the situation. But he continues to delude himself and the American people. Although he is on record admitting that al-Qaeda is not the problem in Iraq, he continues to drop comments making the terrorism connection. For instance, he claims that any attempts of Congress to tie funding to redeployment timetables will give the terrorists an incentive to wait it out. This is absurd---it's been more than four years (longer than the U.S. fought in World War II) and if the Iraqis cannot manage their country by now there is no reason to believe that more time will help. Meanwhile Americans are dying in a war that was originally started as a lie (remember yellow cake uranium and alumium tubes?). And, despite the administration's nonsensical claims that the "surge" is working, the violence has steadily increased---each the last 3 months have shown the highest number of attacks since Bush declared the fighting over in the "Mission Accomplished" photo event. Today there was a terrible car bombing that took the lives of ten more soldiers. The situation is as bad as it has ever been.

What possible basis can there be for thinking, after all this, that there is some way that victory will come for America in Iraq?

In World War II, the German generals realized that the war was lost after the success of the D-Day landings. But Hitler, much like Bush, refused to consider the facts, calling his generals defeatists. The German generals turned on Hitler and tried to assassinate him; he ended up killing hundreds of them in return (including the popular Rommel, whose murder was covered up with a huge state funeral). Bush doesn't kill his generals---he just fires them (Shinseki, Gardner, Abizaid) and replaces them with pliant ones willing to do his bidding (Myers, Pretraeus). This is what makes a mockery of Bush's claims to listen to his "Generals on the ground."

People like Harry Reid may be demonized by the administration as "defeatist" for their statements on Iraq. In light of all that has gone on, I would call him a "realist."

the facts are that the Democrat leaders have fought America winning this war, every step of the way. The terrorists in Iraq can not defeat America,
only the American terrorist supporters, led by the Democrat Party leaders in Congress can defeat America.

The US military is not going anywhere.

But its time to speak the truth, and I think everyone here needs to hear it.

The truth is that we overran Iraq in slightly less than three weeks. A year later sovereignty was transferred to an Iraqi government - despite predictions of naysayers saying it could not happen.

Free elections and the formation of a constitution, and political parties have taken place - again, despite predictions to the contrary by American "patriots".

I'll not bother addressing your talking points, as they have been previously addressed in this forum many times.

What I will say is that there are many more success stories and stories of individual heroism in Iraq that go unreported because of the mainstream media. The Democratic Party has politicized the war in an attempt to undermine the mission of the US military it purports to support. This time it will not be forgotten.

Think of that if the troops come home in defeat!

You quite enjoyed breaking it to him. :)

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

Which must include a demonstration that you understand the implications of the 16 Words. Send it in via the Contact Us button and we'll think about turning your account on.

Moe

PS: It's 250 words because you need to learn how to express yourself concisely almost as badly as you need to stop mainlining Moonbat White.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

I've often wondered why it seems there is no cure for Bush Derangement Syndrome.™ Their daily "fix" makes recovery virtually impossible.

I'm glad you cleared that up for me. ;)

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“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan

Here is the perfect regurgitation of the Left's narrative of the War in Iraq, how it came about, how it was and is being conducted and what the situation is on the ground. Out of one or two kernels that have some element of truth, the Democrats and their friends in the media, using a skillful mix of selective amnesia, feigned outrage and mud slinging have spun a remarkably well-assembled tapestry of lies that have gained the status of truth through nothing more than relentless repetition.

It doesn't bother me much that people who know better are deliberately promoting this false narrative for their own benefit, whether it be political, financial or otherwise. Consequently, this BDS infected moonbat, if I was sure that he was just lying, would only make me angry.

But the knowledge that he, and especially that a significant share of the perenially ignorant middle, honestly believes this stuff is scary.

George W. Bush: He's A Folder ... Not A Fighter.

But I'm with mbecker, here.

You people, Republicans in both Houses of Congress, have been weak and cowardly so far. And what is worse is that you have been covering up your cowardice and fecklessness by calling it "bipartisanship."

Please, in the name of all that is Holy, including the lives of the men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq for a war you voted for, fight! Where are you folks on the radio, the television, the newspapers and every other possible medium making the Democrats' actions as painful for them politically as they are supposed to be?

Get up and fire back at the mendacious fools on the other side of the aisle who are by their actions cheerleading for the other side. Make them pay. Make them shriek at you for not rolling over and playing dead.

But here you are still waxing poetic "bi-partisan" meetings and other fairy tale fantasies.

You folks (the House GOP) do not need the Democrats to make a stand, Ms. Granger. You just need courage. I wish I wasn't so sure that so many people would be rolling their eyes at the concept of Republicans with cojones.

Welcome to Redstate.

George W. Bush: He's A Folder ... Not A Fighter.

No where is the need for Republican Senators and Congressmen and Congresswomen to stand in support of America greater than this battle over winning in Iraq.
The Democrat leaders have already told us that they support the enemy.

Thanks for a great post here. I live near your district but not in it. Which is good, because I would be tempted to vote for you early and often on the same day. Oh, I forgot-I'm not a Democrat! :>)

check out my weekly "Good News Iraq" report that is also up on Blackfive and Badger Six milblogs. It is open sourced and I posted it to my blog. Pass around as much as you can to get the word out. Anyone who wants on the distro list let me know..

http://airforcepundit.blogspot.com

Welcome to Redstate.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the Iraq situation with us.

Now please go back to Washington and stand up for us, stand up for our President.

Stand up for our sons and daughters, our enlisted people that are defending our great nation here and abroad while people like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid make a mockery of their deaths and service.

Please stop immediately mouthing the words about respecting their patriotism because if you do, respect their patriotism, then I believe it's time to redefine what that means in Washington. Freedom of speech is not unrestricted and it should not be confused with patriotism or love of country.

Congresswoman, please talk with the rest of the republicans in your body and tell them it's time to stand up and stop the insanity of the left and you must fight them on every issue and at every turn. Take off the gloves, our nation is at stake and the perception is that there is no one left fighting for America and Americans in Washington.

Well done is better than well said. —Benjamin Franklin

 
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