Zogby impartial? Not in my mailbox
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Update [2006-3-1 13:36:28 by Moe Lane]: Generation Why? did the unthinkable - he paid for the summary - and so got access to the questions. Which was nice of him, because otherwise I would have had to.
Anyway, I don't want to violate copyright - and I don't know where citing of a cite fits on that scale - so I'll note that the breakdown of that infamous 72% is as follows: a (slight) plurality wants to leave right away and the rest are pretty much evenly divided between leaving in no more than six months and leaving no less than six months from now (numbers at Generation Why?). As Jason notes:
While Kristof and the Democrats paint the picture that these numbers are evidence of a military ready to cut and run, they don't take into account the fact that the Pentagon's existing plan calls for troop reduction of almost half in the next 6 months and about 75% by the end of the year. So it's reasonable to assume, since the responses are consistent with the existing troop reduction plan, that the respondents were taking this plan into account when answering the question. Hardly the bombshell the Left wanted to portray.
Now, this update/promotion is taking up a lot of kingronjo's oxygen, so I'll just end by noting that nobody - Republican, Democrat or Independent - benefits from the sort of silliness that Zogby tried to pull. And that we now live in a world where people notice when you put your poll details behind a subscription wall.
Oh, yes: promoted from Diaries.
My first diary. I await the shellacking from my intellectual superiors.
I have been a member of Zogby's polling panel for several years now. Usually when I get the request firstname.lastname@example.org it is only to take part in one of the surveys. Today to my surprise was different.
In the message area was the title "Zogby: US troops in Iraq: 72% say end the war." I opened it up and was shocked to see this survey results. Here is the linked page: http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
Read on.Nothing like these results have ever been talked about by anyone, including the anti-war talking heads. But in the third paragraph was the answer to how these numbers came about: the sponsor--Le Moyne College's Center for Peace and Global Studies.
The Center for Peace is another far left outfit that blames America for anything and everything. For example, it is the proud sponsor of something known as the CNY Peace Consortium. The conference is always filled with the usual supsects that find fault with America first. The keynote speaker for 2005's conference was Colman McCarthy. One of his numerous statements was, "On April 4, 1967, Martin Luther King, Jr., said that "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today is my own government." He was right then and is right now. In only the past 20 years, the U.S. government has sent troops to kill or threaten to kill people in etc, etc." Other speakers listed were not so moderate as Mr. McCarthy in their remarks.
Never, ever, have I received from Zogby any poll result, let alone the full report. Zogby wants to make sure that this poll was trumpeted far and wide. His bias in 2004 is now on full display in 2006 without any pretense of impartiality.
In addition we have now the CBS poll with 409 Dem respondents and 272 Repub respondents (337 "independents). Last I looked Repub control the WH, Senate and House, yet in this poll they are outnumbered by a 10-7 margin.
Talk radio hosts make no bones about who they are and what they believe, left or right. That is what makes these people so dangerous, their lies of omission.