Note to Lefty Netroots: Steve Elmendorf Is Right

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I get up this morning and already my email is overflowing with emails from individuals expecting the death of the "netroots." The netroots, so the emails go, rallied behind Ciro and Ciro lost.

First, let's put things in perspective. The "netroots" did not rally behind Ciro. The lefty netroots rallied behind Ciro -- that's not the same thing as saying the "netroots" generally.

Second, the Democrat establishment should recognize, though hopefully not until after November, that the lefty netroots is increasingly out of touch with the average voter and, consequently, we should legitimately be able to say the party chairman, who they aggressively backed, is also out of touch with the average voter. Steve Elmendorf is right.

Thus far the lefty netroots has aggressively pushed numerous out of touch losers, but has yet to generate a winner. Lefty netroots support continues to be the kiss of death and that support is, unfortunately, eroding the credibility of the netroots in general. It should be noted that the right side of the blogosphere has not been as aggressive in building and backing candidates (though Jim Demint, Tom Coburn, John Thune, and others have seen help), but the right has managed to show itself more in touch with reality.

By the way, congrats to the Club for Growth that aggressively pushed Cuellar and saw him win. Well done.

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Poor poor Markos ...

He is the gift that keeps on giving, another endorsed candidate, another loss ..

Moving away from all the obvious comments that one could make, lets focus on the numbers ..

Ciro lost 2 years ago as an incumbent by 58 votes to Henry C.

2 years later, Ciro comes back to challenge Henry, who has been labeled by the far left as a traitor and a DINO.

Out comes the lefty organizations with ca$h and resources, we saw Dean's brothers organization, the DfA out there, the AFL-CIO, MoveOn.org, the Kooks from Kos, Emily's List, Schindler's List, David Letterman's Top Ten List, they were all there !!

A loss of 58 votes 2 years ago has turned into a over 2,000 vote loss NOW, he actually LOST ground in almost every county, after all this money and resources from the far left, he actually did worse ..

I guess we know who actually is divorced from reality now....

Michael

then the biggest leftist-netroots embarassment would have between in the Democrat Senate primary in Texas.

Radnofsky is a candidate who has advertised on far-left blogs and has spent around $400K.

How did she do?

She couldn't get 50% and she's going to a runoff to face Gene Kelly, a candidate who just paid his filing fee and did nothing.

The fact is that the Texas Democrat party needs more people like Henry Cuellar, not less. Because if they keep losing sane people, then they'll be even more of a fringe in Texas.

Henry Cuellar should switch parties after the election in November. His own party basically stabbed him in the back for the last few months.

although he's not the first to say it.  Democrats can't say what they really believe in.  Unfortunately for them their supporters say it for them.  Combine the left roots with the state organizations and their support of Howard "Dizzy" Dean and what kind of party do you have?  The nuts are ready to explode and the Washington Dems are trying, half heartedly at times, to sit on the lid.   Kos is only a small part of the problem and like most Dem/Liberals seeking a place at the table would gladly sell his mother down the river.  Still, the larger problem is that the animals want to break out of the zoo and it will be harder to keep the beasts on a leash.  This is what happens when you are ignorant, think you have the answers, and believe that David Gregory, Terry Moran, and Muareen Dowd have IQ's over 80.

Y'know, one of the things I like best about the wingnut netroots is there just isn't the same self-important "I am going to make a difference, I know better than all these people who have done this for years, I need to/will make a difference.  From Chris Bowers' quixotic (and irrelevant) crusade to put a Dem. candidate on the ballot in all 435 districts (he actually threatened to withhold funding for any candidate in any state that didn't succeed), to the backing of candidates like Rodriguez, to Howard Dean's wasting of cash on the Alabama Dem. party, there is a consistent arrogance and self-congratulation -- and even more dangerous, a constant search for personal meaning -- in the Dem netroot leaders that I just don't find here.  It would have been good if Cuellar had a general opponent, but I don't think our majority depends on it.  It certainly doesn't depend on finding a general election opponent for Chaka Fattah in inner-city Pennsylvania.  One of the things I like best about this place is a fundamental recognition of reality, even if I often disagree with the conclusions drawn from that reality.  Keep it up.

good job avoiding the constant cheerleading.  Jonathan Singer at MyDD is actually touting a Democratic campaign poll showing Steve Chabot's opponent behind by 9 points (40-49).  That is not a particularly good indication that an incumbent is vulnerable, if that is the best an opposing campaign can come up with.  I follow campaigns pretty closely, and I thought Rodriguez would win, based on the commentary/propaganda I'd been hearing at those sites over the past couple of weeks.  Never again.

Blanton uses the exact same term to describe the conservative blogosphere in a front page post here.  I honestly wouldn't have used the term if he hadn't.  And while I'm probably to the left of the average redstate poster, I think I've posted enough here (and on my blog) to establish my basic conservative bona fides.

sponsor as many dem candidates as he can.

Nothing kills a candidate's legitimacy faster than an endorsement from the (dirty) kos dozen.

It's like an endorsement from Hitler.

And there's a reason I was asking rather than warning.

I figured that was the case, but suffice it to say while I consider myself a reactionary par excellence, I'm not taken with the wingnut appellation.

johnt,

You are right, but the problem with them is even deeper then that .. Read their comments on dailykooks, they think the MSM is AGAINST THEM !!

Unless it's Keith Olberman or Airhead America, they think everyone else is in cahoots with the White House, thats how sick they are !

There boycotting Chris Matthews !

Michael

Remarkable, the man who complained just days ago about having insomnia as he blogged to and through the wee morning of the night is strabgely absent on posting since the results were clear in TX-28...

Not only is the trend of him endorsing candidates that lose continuing, so is the one that finds him absent from comment after the debacle ..

Michael

Consider your average Markos lefty Dem. He's the kind of guy who, like Alan Keyes running against Obama, would lose an election in Hiroshima. Against Paul Tibbets.

(and this is why I consider the internet such an imperfect means of discussion. so hard to grasp nuance, leaving one to fill in the blanks as to the other party's intent).

How great is it that the "main" lefty netroots maven has gone a combined 0-19 in races they have sponsored?

They are challenging the French for most consecutive losses in battle. I would be embarrassed. Then again, most of the kook aid drinkers over there are blaming the GOP for rigging an election in an overwhelmingly Democratic district! lol..

These candidates don't lose because Kos supports them. The people who vote in these primaries have no idea who or what Kos is.

Rather, the candidates that Kos supports are bad candidates with bad ideas.

A Kos endorsement is a good indicator that a candidate will not win. But the endorsement itself has no impact on the outcome, because most people don't know Kos and don't care who he endorses.

What this proves is not that Kos is the "kiss of death", but rather that Kos is irrelevant to election outcomes.

While Kos and his ilk certainly have delusions of grandeur (that we happily play along with), these guys regularly participate in conference calls with the party leadership and candidates.  They pull them to the Left, and have an impact on the issue agenda they pursue.  I don't think Sen. Kerry would have given a speech late last year mentioning impeachment absent the netroots.  That's what is toxic to the Dems.

"We are sending notice to Democrats that they can't be Bush's bitch and expect a pass. So we didn't kill off Cuellar, but we gave him an ass whooping where none was expected and made him sweat. That's the reason why Lieberman is sweating in Connecticut and lining up his dog and pony endorsement shows to flex his muscle."

So now, after going 0-19 mind you, winning isnt the goal, it's sending a notice.. LOL, these kooks are incredible!! .. Hey Markos, you supported a FORMER congressman who only lost by 58 votes 2 years ago, you gave him money, he also had the DfA, AFL-CIO, Moveon.org and others behind him .. This wasnt some first timer with no money or name recognition running, and yet he lost by a bigger percentage, received LESS votes then before the "progressives" ever mentioned his name.

Looks like this "one day story" is now OVER ..

Michael

But, but don't you see?  They got Chandler elected.  And Obama and Herseth and Dean at DNC.  They're winners!  THE GOP IS THE LOSERS.  1 for 100!!! HAHAHA!

God I love these guys:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/3/8/1242/67062

...would anyone really notice?

If Tucker Carlson just didn't show up for work, and the cameras just recorded any empty chair for thirty minutes, would even his boss ever find out?

It's also worth noting that the Kos endorsement generally raises a decent amount of cash for the soon-to-lose candidate, leading to two things:

1. Misplaced confidence on behalf of the candidate - "All this money is rolling in, the People love me! My message is resonating! I need to stick with my BushLiedTaxCutsForTheRichPeopleVersusThePowerfulVastRightWingConspiracyItsF
orTheChildrenImagineWorldPeace message"

2. The larger amount of cash allows them to spread that message to more people, meaning more people to realize exactly how far out the candidate is.

So in that regard, the Kos endorsement could be said to be a "kiss of death"

It's called paranoia.  Another gauge of what us normal people are up against, they think the media is giving Bush a free ride.  You cannot plumb the depths,or even the boundry, of such minds.

Wear it as a badge of honor and really annoy the moonbats!

I'm not a marine, and I could never get through their Basic, but they've got the right attitude on derisive insults: Suck them up, take them in, exhilirate in them, and spit them back out as compliments.

 
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