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I really needed this today!!!

My family lives the problem.

With the gators :(

It just seems crazy to me that the official answer to the increasin frequency of gator attacks is to keep your kids and pets away from water.

...about how mother nature picks winners and losers. Only humans get confused.

cause...ah, that should work!

the way of the West: Shoot, Shovel, and Shut Up.

Even the kid can't be much more than food from that nature/nurture shallow end of the gene pool.

as my SMLE.

what is the max distance?  couple hundred yards?

that there are truly deranged humans inhabiting our planet who believe we should allow ourselves to be terrorized by any species on the earth.

Gen 1:27  So God created man in his own image,in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Gen 1:28  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Common sense tells me 'subduing the earth' would very well include subduing a menacing creature who might be about to devour my child, and instinct wouldn't allow me to think twice about shooting it.

good ol' .303 you don't need a clean shot at anything inside about 300 meters

The Warners don't want the animal killed. Shaffer Warner said he wishes the animal to be tranquilized and relocated.

The Warners are "dolts." That's the Dutch word for "dolts."

Meanwhile, here in the D.C. area, the burgeoning deer population is perhaps our greatest threat to traffic and life. Obviously, we need Mountain Lions to keep these vermin under control. Either that, or deer-eating cane toads.

pretty interesting stuff.

After shooting the lion we should eat it! Does mountain lion taste like chicken or spotted owl?

...to genetically engineer and force-clone as many pandas as necessary to get our bamboo population under control.

have the texture of Chilean Sea Bass....I've heard

...mixed with PepBoys finest antifreeze is the perfered method of keeping pests (read cats of all sizes)out of your yard. One day they are at the "Prestone Buffet" the next day they are taking a dirt nap alongside the too slow racoon by the highway. Crule?..Yeah but better than burying a kid.

After reading the end of the article, I think I'm kinda rooting for the mountain lion on this one....

It seems the moutain lion is the only one who has clearly defined goals.

That's your solution.  In Northern Wisconsin and the UP there used to be a lot of Whitetail.  

Timber Wolves were reintroduced and now you have an equal chance of seeing a wolf or a deer (and both seem to be rare).  This is worse in the UP, but it's a problem in WI too.

So let put some Timber Wolves in D.C.

but I don't know if the Timber wolves will stay inside the fence at NIST, especially when they open the gates in the morning so the local commuters can report for work.

I really couldn't get much farther than the headline before I said, 'kill it'.  And I've dealt with bears eating the garbage, hawks playing 'wild kingdom' with rabbits in the backyard, and other critters without feeling the need to end their existence.

I understand that the critters got to live/eat, etc., but that stops when my life or family starts being threatened.

This is mindboggling:

"But what disturbs the couple the most is that the big cat has crouched outside the bedroom window of their 6-year-old son Schylure and stared at the boy."

They have seen a large predator outside their child's bedroom and they have not taken the one action that would unquestionably protect their child.  I would lay money that if I met this couple (or any of their species) in a social setting and mentioned I have guns in my home, they would tell me how unsafe it was for my children.  They are 'at the end of my rope', yet they will not stand up and defend themselves against a  freakin' cat?

I live on waterfront property in Florida.  My gunsafe is right inside one of the doors to the backyard.  There is an M-14 with a 20 round magazine in the first rack for the express purpose of alligator control (Unless it's hurricane season, then the express purpose is looter control, but I digress.).  

Shoot the lion.

Introduction of timber wolves might reduce the violence in Milwaukee!  Sure!  Why didn't I think of that before?  People that go around shooting other people tend to be idiots, right?  So why don't we just introduce the timber wolves and take out some of those idiots?  Sometimes it takea a preditor to take out a preditor.

constantly prowling for garbage, etc.  We take the usual precautions, no garbage outside, no bird feeders in spring and summer, keep the place clean.  We also NEVER sit out on the back deck or in the hot tub in the evening without making sure that the front door is unlocked so that we can go around the house and get in if a bear shows up in the yard.  We got chased out of the hot tub last summer by one coming up on the deck.

I'm prepared to live and let live as long as they don't threaten me or mine, but my Mini 14 is on a rack over the door and there'd be a dead bear if one ever made a threatening move or got between me and an escape route.

There was a reason we killed off all the large predators and omnivores like bears around the places we live.  Now that most Departments of Fish and Game are run by people who learned everything the "know" about wild animals from Bambi, Free Willy, and left wing professors these large animals are an increasing threat even in very urban areas.

I'm going to protect myself and mine, and if the animal cops want to make an issue of it, they can try to find a jury to convict me.

This is not a hard call: Shoot the flipping lion, the sooner the better.

I'll bet that the parents are the sort who think that we should try to reason with Osama. Too bad the boy has parents who view the protection of the lion as morally equivalent to their duty to protect their son.

show up near my house. One turned up as road kill about 3 miles from me.

You are a lot more laid back about a 100-lb+ carnivore who runs faster than you do hanging about. The first one who shows up on my 3 acres gets to talk to my Lee-Enfield.

..people out there. When I lived in Idaho I kept a Bushmaster .223 for the four legged troublemakers (a MAC90 for the 2 leggers)so dont kid yourselves folks there are large preditory animals are under your nose most of the time but you are not even aware of them. I spent the better part of 3 bear seasons looking for one and never saw a sign, but one day there was one standing in THE MIDDLE OF THE LOCAL WAL-MART PARKING LOT. He was lucky that fish and game got to him before the locals did.

dinner (for the mountain lion).

Hey if you think deer are a hazard to cars, try hitting a moose. Their high center of gravity, heavy mass and tall thin legs line them up perfectly with  your windshield.  

...if the mtn lion doesn't consume him, the embarassment from his mom's (his MOM's) serial tattoos eventually will.

Poor kid is growing up hippie white trash.

--furous

mountain lions to the Mexican border. Cheaper than building a wall.

The lion crossed a 60-foot dirt road in a few seconds. Carrie Warner slammed the door just as her husband got through. The lion's head was caught in the door. She slammed the door on its head again and it backed out.

Else? Lion has din-din.

'God will save me, if he exists'

worked really well for the guy in Kiev

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060605/od_nm/ukraine_lion_dc_1

You just expect it here, I certainly wouldn't were I in an urban area in the Lower 48. It is a constant thing and has been for years. They're only aggressive if you get between a sow and her cub(s).  I have 17MM acres of wilderness in the Tongass Nat. Forest pretty much out my back door and have often heard wolves howling at night.  There are good things about it, and bad.  As I said though, any sign of aggression and dead bear.

aren't really carnivores, though they will eat meat.  They will eat ANYTHING, like their close relatives, pigs.  Brown Bears at 1000 pounds plus, OTOH, are carnivores and we have lots of them on the islands around here.  I wouldn't dare step off my boat and onto one of those islands w/o my 12 gauge and there it is shoot first, let God sort it out, and you might think of saving the last one for yourself.  They will eat you just because they can.

1. Kill Criminals
   
   
2. Disincentivize Localized Criminal Activity
   
   
3. Kill Animals

Is that right?

I think you will find that if a gator ever actually attacks a person or a housepet they do kill the gator. It's entirely too risk not too, once the gator figures out what easy targets we are ... :-)

I have to load the clips the old fashioned way. On the other hand, one hit would do the trick on most beasts so rapid reload is a capability I don't have to have.

the neighbors 3 yo comes over and eats your hamburger of course.

Just leave plenty of food out for the mountain lions and they shouldn't be a problem. Pit bulls, Dobermans, Rottweilers and Lawyers.

from the Boer War.

You are way over the line in suggesting that Pit Bulls, Dobermans, and Rottweilers should be fed to mountain lions.

The rest of the list is OK.

the mountain lion and some of jsteele's gators to DC.  Turn loose in the Capitol when Congress is in session.  Lock the doors.

Not as big as a moose, but when you're clipping along at 85+ on a motorcycle, elk are more than big enough.

What increase in fatalities due to people become cat snacks can you expect, versus the decrease in fatalities from people crashing into deer? And can you hold off a cane toad with a flamethrower?

the cats and other carnivore critters will only eat those who really need to be eaten.  Namely liberals.  

I was riding a motorcycle at night through Allegheny State Park in western NY, near Salamanca. Even at 18, I knew that it was highly likely that I would see wildlife at night in a park, so I was going slow. I was expecting to see deer, but I rounded one bend, and my caution was rewarded. There staring back at me from the middle of the road was a porcupine. (That coulda been messy!) I stopped about ten feet away from the animal, and it was so frightened and confused that it completed at least three circles in the road before deciding which side of the road to flee to.

...he gets to the burger. Eliminate the threat and the 3 yo can run wild.